Is GM putting 100% effort into EVs? NO! - new ICE engine introduced

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Sometime months ago some said legacy auto OEMs had stop putting resources into ICE. Well they have not stopped.

GM has millions of debt and needs to transition to EVs but somehow always has money for new ICE.
Have to wait years for EVs but no problem releasing more ICE.

And how many of these gas hog will retain pollution controls as well as greenhouse gases they will spew.

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This is a specialty aftermarket crate motor.. this isn't gonna be getting put into Suburban and crap from the factory. Its for automotive enthusiast.

I love driving a clean vehicle everyday and hope to transition to full BEV ASAP.. But I still have my old dinosaurs in the garage.. nothing wrong with that.
 

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This is a specialty aftermarket crate motor.. this isn't gonna be getting put into Suburban and crap from the factory. Its for automotive enthusiast.

I love driving a clean vehicle everyday and hope to transition to full BEV ASAP.. But I still have my old dinosaurs in the garage.. nothing wrong with that.
Then they should be EV crate motors, like the one Ford showed this week.
 


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Then they should be EV crate motors, like the one Ford showed this week.
They are and not every car enthusiast wants silence. Also, I seriously doubt the few engines they will sell like this is going to put the world in global climate despair.. we've all ready managed to achieve that :LOL:
 

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Well, to be fair, they are working on this. Reportedly is is due out this year.
GMs Electric Vehicle Future | Performance (chevrolet.com)
I think the main problem most of us have with GM is TRUST. Trust is built with consistency, GM and most of the OEM auto companies have consistently lied and cheated. VW is on the top of that heap.

The photo at the end of that website cracks me up. Are we supposed to longingly looking to the horizon, waiting for GM to amaze us? Not me! I gave up on them and their dealer stealer network! OEMs and the dealer mark-ups, PISS ME OFF!

waiting.jpg
 

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Here’s what GM unveiled at SEMA

https://www.newsweek.com/chevrolet-...lds-first-hoonigan-collaboration-sema-1644615

Seven really rad concept truck/ OHVs. Zero EVs.

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Aside from the absurd view blocking hood, this is a pretty rad OHV. Reinvisioned as an EV it could have fantastic visibility and performance.

GM needs to get their EV game on. 0/7 is a pretty crap score for a supposedly future facing company. These are *concepts* never intended to hit the road. They don’t need to be practical.

EDIT: The Hummer is there also. Weird that this article doesn’t even mention it.
 
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I think the main problem most of us have with GM is TRUST. Trust is built with consistency, GM and most of the OEM auto companies have consistently lied and cheated. VW is on the top of that heap.

The photo at the end of that website cracks me up. Are we supposed to longingly looking to the horizon, waiting for GM to amaze us? Not me! I gave up on them and their dealer stealer network! OEMs and the dealer mark-ups, PISS ME OFF!

waiting.jpg
True. No argument from me, and I have 2 GM vehicles. Dodge is even worse in the trust department IMO.
No legacy automakers are getting my business from my next vehicle purchase.
 
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Might not be everything as it seems. Those engines were probably already in development for the previous 5 to 10 years, and once money has been invested into something, I'm sure management has a hard time just chopping it at 90ish percent complete or just throwing it away.

Now, of course this is a bad time and a bad message for them to be introducing these, but maybe their 'bean counters' figure it will still given them some financial return from some of their brainwashed customer base who doesn't realize GM cares nothing about them, and has often outsourced American jobs overseas for money, along with other grossly wasteful fats in their business model I've mentioned in other posts.

They might be figuring they can recoup some of the money that they had put into the engines' development, instead of those initiatives being a total loss. But GM and other legacy auto is in a Bad Place, not only just because of their stale backward looking internal projects, but also because of their business model entanglements with dealer associations and unions which politically and financially strangles them paralyzing them from having any agility to move or innovate in a forward direction.

Here's a reality that some GM customers are finally realizing however:

I showed someone how it only costs $7 dollars to fully charge a Tesla Model 3 the other day...

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Penny wise, dollar poor. Or in this case, focusing on short term rewards at the expense of their future.

Possible these efforts will worthless in as few as 5 years. Only a tiny amount of their investment is likely to be relevant in 10 years.

By comparison, every dollar spent on EVs is going to be leveraged for 20+ years.
 

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Might not be everything as it seems. Those engines were probably already in development for the previous 5 to 10 years, and once money has been invested into something, I'm sure management has a hard time just chopping it at 90ish percent complete or just throwing it away.
Sure. You don’t throw it away. But making a big deal about it and promoting it heavily is like bragging about how you’ve had your eye off the ball for the past 10 years.
 
 




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