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Back in late 2019 when Elon announced the projected pricing, didn't anyone else think those were amazingly low prices? I mean, the dual-motor for $50k? I made a reservation just because I thought that price was incredible. Anyone else?

My 2018 Model 3 which I bought less than a year prior to the CT announcement cost me $60k with a 75kWh battery, and the dual-motor CT would have to have one 50-60% larger, to meet the projected range. How was that going to happen?

I recall the larger battery in my LR, over the SR was $9k more, and that was only about 20kWh different. How could an extra 45kWh make the dual CT $10k cheaper than my dual Model 3? Not even factoring all the other stuff that the CT was going to have.

Of course, we all assumed that the new battery cells, the 4680 was going to dramatically lower battery costs over the 2170. But, that didn't happen. So, when people complain about the prices not being what was announced, I'm like, should anyone be surprised?

Look at the current Model Y which also has 4680 cells. That 75-80kWh model currently costs $50k. A 50+% larger battery is going to put the CT pricing anywhere near that?

Sure, I was disappointed by the $70k pricing. I think if they could have gotten the decontented price with the large battery down to $64k that'd be in the right ballpark.

I still think they should offer the smaller battery, <100kWh, for the 250mi range, to get the price into an even lower range, like $56k.

To me, a 250mi CT for $56k, a 350mi CT for $64k, and a dual-CT for $80, and a tri-CT for $100k, makes the most sense.

Just think if they could offer a 250mi CT, with <100kWh battery for $56k, that'd be only $7k more than a Model Y, but that only has an 80kWh battery. To me, that'd be a bargain and sell like hotcakes.
I agree with the pricing analysis and why a lower price with the current battery may be making it difficult. I question whether a 250 mi truck would satisfy most people, I think some of the comments are reactions based on high expectations from the DM and CB. But if that's all the range you need, then that's all you need. Tesla would just need the demand.


Charging the Low range 250 mi truck to 80% would give you a 200 mi truck in perfect conditions. So it would get less than 200 mi of range in daily use. That seems low for a truck (I know Ford and Rivian have options)... it would be the lowest range vehicle Tesla sales in the U.S. Many complained when there were standard range vehicles that it was too low and now it's OK even when higher range is expected and generally available in the market these days?
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Tesla is going to need to come up with a plan B for the Cybertruck.
Unfortunately, it's not obvious what a "Plan B" might look like. Tesla may not have found the right formula for a commercially successful, mass-market EV pickup -- but nobody else has found it either. Not Ford, not GM. not Rivian.

My guess is that it's inherently difficult and expensive to make a vehicle with a stainless steel body. There's probably a reason why no other manufacturers do this. In fact, Tesla itself has acknowledged that they do not expect to use stainless steel in any other current or planned vehicles. It just may not be possible to make an inexpensive, mass-market Cybertruck as long as stainless steel is involved -- and it seems unlikely that Elon would approve a Cybertruck made out of conventional painted steel or aluminum. It wouldn't be the same.
 
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Unfortunately, it's not obvious what a "Plan B" might look like. Tesla may not have found the right formula for a commercially successful, mass-market EV pickup -- but nobody else has found it either. Not Ford, not GM. not Rivian.

My guess is that it's inherently difficult and expensive to make a vehicle with a stainless steel body. There's probably a reason why no other manufacturers do this. In fact, Tesla itself has acknowledged that they do not expect to use stainless steel in any other current or planned vehicles. It just may not be possible to make an inexpensive, mass-market Cybertruck as long as stainless steel is involved -- and it seems unlikely that Elon would approve a Cybertruck made out of conventional painted steel or aluminum. It wouldn't be the same.
I still think all these "demand" issues will fall by the wayside and people will buy whatever is available once FSD becomes unsupervised...
 

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The market has spoken. American full size pickup buyers still prefer fossil fueled pickup trucks.
'But not for very much longer'
'lts just a jump to the left'
Let's do the CYBERTIME WALK [ IN THE PARK ] again ‼ [ Back To The Future ]
 
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Unfortunately, it's not obvious what a "Plan B" might look like. Tesla may not have found the right formula for a commercially successful, mass-market EV pickup -- but nobody else has found it either. Not Ford, not GM. not Rivian.

My guess is that it's inherently difficult and expensive to make a vehicle with a stainless steel body. There's probably a reason why no other manufacturers do this. In fact, Tesla itself has acknowledged that they do not expect to use stainless steel in any other current or planned vehicles. It just may not be possible to make an inexpensive, mass-market Cybertruck as long as stainless steel is involved -- and it seems unlikely that Elon would approve a Cybertruck made out of conventional painted steel or aluminum. It wouldn't be the same.
I agree.
I think Tesla needs to worry about delivering on initial promises, made. Like 500kw charging for instance that was supposed to be coming 6 months ago.
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I agree.
I think Tesla needs to worry about delivering on initial promises, made. Like 500kw charging for instance that was supposed to be coming 6 months ago.
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PROMISES are like reaching for THE STARS ..... that's where l aim to be!
If l fall short, l can live with that!
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PROMISES are like reaching for THE STARS ..... that's where l aim to be!
If l fall short, l can live with that!
Keep Reaching 4THE STARS ‼
Aiming high and missing high is all good.
But cmon, pumping out promo vids showing 500kw and then we hit the charger and are sitting at most of the charge sub 170 is a little tough.
Especially after the truck has been out since 2023
 

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The decontented, less expensive RWD Cybertruck seems to be generating a lot of interest among the Tesla investment community. Tesla has a quarterly earnings call on April 22, and shareholders will have the opportunity to pose questions to Tesla's management team. The shareholders voted on the questions to ask; here are the top three:
1. When will FSD unsupervised be available for personal use on personally-owned cars?

2. Is Tesla still on track for releasing “more affordable models” this year? Or will you be focusing on simplified versions to enhance affordability, similar to the RWD Cybertruck?

3. How is Tesla positioning itself to flexibly adapt to global economic risks in the form of tariffs, political biases, etc.?
All good questions, I'm sure we would all like to hear Tesla's responses to them. But the RWD Cybertruck was the only Tesla vehicle that was specifically called out.

Tesla has already introduced a lower-cost, decontented RWD Model 3 in Mexico, and is rumored to be working on a lower-cost, decontented RWD Model Y. So in the future, your local Tesla store could potentially have a whole lineup of more affordable versions of existing models. Or there could be entirely new low-cost models; we will hopefully learn more on April 22.
 
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Aiming high and missing high is all good.
But cmon, pumping out promo vids showing 500kw and then we hit the charger and are sitting at most of the charge sub 170 is a little tough.
Especially after the truck has been out since 2023
Happy Gilmore Me waiting here in the sandpits DownUnder....
The frustration is understandable ....good things take Time!
I've been a reservation holder since Day 1.....my first Karmann Ghia took me 7 years of searching!
Let's hope the CT comes to Australia by 2027 with any sort of charging speed.....maybe ‼
 


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I had never heard of Slate Motors before; they are secretive and have been flying under the radar. I guess if a startup company has financial backing from Jeff Bezos (of Amazon), they don't need to promote themselves to other potential investors.

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I like that they are gambling on a traditional 2-door cab, when the rest of the truck world (both ICE and BEV) overwhelmingly favors 4-door crew cabs.

I'll reserve final judgement until we know more about it; release is apparently scheduled for late 2026. But if the final product has decent capabilities, and comes in near the target price of $25,000, it has the potential to be the top-selling BEV truck. That doesn't necessarily mean that it will take sales away from the Cybertruck though; the truck market is large and Slate is obviously targeting a different market segment.
Apparently Slate has been quietly parking additional vehicles, with weird phony business wraps, on the streets of Los Angeles. It seems that the Slate pickup can be configured with different kinds of caps. VERY interesting.

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To sign up for more info, visit the RockabyeRides or CatThurrrapy sites. Looks like a potentially major EV truck reveal is coming on April 24. Presumably a different sector of the truck market than the Cybertruck though.
 
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Telo truck is probably the most beta truck ever created, only a cuck drive around in that.
You might be the epidemy of an over compensating troll.

I will drive around at 3 miles per kWhr and easily park. The Telo will serve my truck needs 90% of the time. I only need a truck 10% of the time, so........ It is not a fashion or man statement, it is utility.
 

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More prototypes...joy. We'll see if they ever get built, let alone at that price point...
 

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More prototypes...joy. We'll see if they ever get built, let alone at that price point...
The Slate official reveal is apparently coming this evening 04/24. Stay tuned.
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