Mid-Gate possible?

[John Forde]

Here is a close up from the Tesla patent application for the tonneau. The roller is about 15" diameter and appears to have 3 wrapping layers. 15" x 3 x Pi = 140" of tonneau, enough to cover the top horizontal and the vertical inside the rear wall. We can still hope the last 45 inches are chains only.

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[Crissa]

Nice idea. But to be truly usable, there would need to be 2 separate rollers for the tonneau. The first would be for the bed roof that keeps out the rain. The second would be for the cabin/bed separator wall. If there is only one single long tonneau as you have described, then anyone sleeping in the bed is still in a vault and can only get to the cabin after fully opening the tonneau over the bed and down past the separator wall area. Instead, the separator wall would need to be opened and closed separately from the tonneau over the bed.

Track slats can have 'breaks' between sections which operate independently on the same track and roller.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

Hadn’t really thought about it until now, but looking at this shot, it makes me wonder where the 6’5” bed measurement is taken and how much space is going to be available.

You you have a 6’ 5” x 4’ x 4’ box, can you get it into the bed with the tailgate closed? looking at that slanted bed front (Shaded area), I’m kind of thinking not. I wonder how much space you lose there.

Bringing this back to the camping topic, it brings into question the amount of space a taller person might have for sleeping in the vault. I’m 5’11”. If the tailgate is closed, my head is going to be up in that yellow area or very near it. That’s going to be tight.

 

[John Forde]

I am confident the vault's width will be 53-58", and that the vault's height will be 26" next to the tailgate sloping up to 37-38" next to the midgate/cab.

 

[Ogre]

I am confident the vault's width will be 53-58", and that the vault's height will be 26" next to the tailgate sloping up to 37-38" next to the midgate/cab.

You think 26” at the tailgate? Most trucks have a 21” deep bed. That’s been the assumption I’ve taken regarding the height of the vault at the tailgate.

 

[John Forde]

You think 26” at the tailgate? Most trucks have a 21” deep bed. That’s been the assumption I’ve taken regarding the height of the vault at the tailgate.

The patent app drawing above is showing the vault floor 3" higher than I thought. Deduct another inch for the tonneau and we're at 22" at. the tailgate and 34" at the midgate.
Add a 6" mattress and it is very tight.

 

[John Forde]

The patent app drawing above is showing the vault floor 3" higher than I thought. Deduct another inch for the tonneau and we're at 22" at. the tailgate and 34" at the midgate.
Add a 6" mattress and it is very tight.

If the rear window can be replaced by a slider model like this $190 aftermarket Toyota window, the maximum possible opening would be 10" tall and 24" wide (shown here between the orange lines). It would be extremely difficult for an adult to climb thru.
But if the vault doesn't open on command and the tailgate won't open, I would want the option to try to escape that way.

 

[Crissa]

If the rear window can be replaced by a slider ...

I hope not, but it's a fair point.

-Crissa

 

[John Forde]

I hope not, but it's a fair point.

-Crissa

I would love to have my Cybertruck delivered with no rolling tonneau and no back wall.
Just a simple hinged cover like this.

 

[Ogre]

I would love to have my Cybertruck delivered with no rolling tonneau and no back wall.
Just a simple hinged cover like this.

The more I think about this whole car camping thing, the more I like the idea of just having the front seats fold flat. Then the climate control situation is simple and I can use the bed for hauling stuff.

I’ll post my Plan O shortly which is an alternative.

 

[HaulingAss]

If the rear window can be replaced by a slider model like this $190 aftermarket Toyota window, the maximum possible opening would be 10" tall and 24" wide (shown here between the orange lines). It would be extremely difficult for an adult to climb thru.
But if the vault doesn't open on command and the tailgate won't open, I would want the option to try to escape that way.

I don't understand this fetish with crawling through the rear cab window. It's supposed to be a truck, not a playhouse. I also don't understand the fear of being trapped in the vault. Tesla is all about safety and will have a design that cannot trap you in there.

 

[Crissa]

I just want to be able to put long stuff inside out of the rain. I don't need the back seats or a separator very often.

-Crissa

 

[John Forde]

I don't understand this fetish with crawling through the rear cab window. It's supposed to be a truck, not a playhouse. I also don't understand the fear of being trapped in the vault. Tesla is all about safety and will have a design that cannot trap you in there.

I want a BEV playhouse. Tesla does not make a BEV playhouse. No one does. I have to adapt the cybertruck.
Also, claustrophobia does not respond to rational arguments. Someone could park so close as to block your tailgate escape. The battery could go dead immobilizing the tonneau. A sliding rear window is an option I desire and will gladly pay for.
Can I fit thru it? Hmmm....

 

[madquadbiker]

Yeah, I've thought about the "Window only" possibility. Pretty tough to get your body thru a ten inch slot.

Depends on the size of the bear.

 

[HaulingAss]

I want a BEV playhouse. Tesla does not make a BEV playhouse. No one does. I have to adapt the cybertruck.
Also, claustrophobia does not respond to rational arguments. Someone could park so close as to block your tailgate escape. The battery could go dead immobilizing the tonneau. A sliding rear window is an option I desire and will gladly pay for.
Can I fit thru it? Hmmm....

I'm saying Tesla will have a solution that works with a dead battery. Some of the concerns here just boggle my mind!

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