Tesla Wall Connector (Gen 4) for Cybertruck

[Ogre]

No, you install the plug for now, until you choose your permanent installation.

-Crissa

I think that’s pointless. Then you are doing the job twice or worse—hiring an electrician to do it twice. If you are installing any kind of plug, you might as well install either a 60 amp wall connector or a 100 amp sub panel. Then you have either the full solution in place and don’t have to call the electrician again, or you have a truly flexible solution that’ll solve for almost any future charging setups you end up with.

I installed a single wall connector, and now I wish I’d went ahead and put a sub-panel in so I could add a second wall connector when I get the truck. But I can likely get by with a single wall connector for a long time.

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[Crissa]

I think that’s pointless. Then you are doing the job twice or worse—hiring an electrician to do it twice.

You don't need an electrician to turn an outlet into ...a different outlet.

-Crissa

 

[TyPope]

You don't need an electrician to turn an outlet into ...a different outlet.

-Crissa

If fact, I did this very thing, almost. I had an electrician put in a 100 Amp sub panel in my garage and also had him wire up my Gen 2 wall connector for my wife's MY. In addition, I had them run a 2nd wire to an electrical box closer to my side of the garage so I could eventually add a wall connector for my CT. Now, it is fairly simple to wire those wall connectors. Literally 3 wires. Besides, my original wall connector kept turning off due to thermal issues and I went in and tightened the lugs. I've had to do that twice and while I had it off the second time, I replaced her white glass with blue to match her car. It's all pretty easy when you can just turn off the circuit breaker right there (and test for electrical anyway because... Well, let's just say I learned the hard way LOOOONG ago).

So, in short (And I'm 6'3" and obviously even my responses are never short), I agree with you, Crissa.

 

[Ogre]

You don't need an electrician to turn an outlet into ...a different outlet.

-Crissa

I don’t need an electrician for anything.

But many people do. Many people who would not be comfortable installing an outlet would also want help converting it to a charger. Obviously varies by the person.

 

[flowerlandfilms]

Threw together a render for a Gen 4 Cyber Charger.
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[Ogre]

Threw together a render for a Gen 4 Cyber Charger.
Day/Night

I think if you are mocking a Cyber style charger somehow the Cyber Tesla logo spotted recently which may or may not end up on final should be part of it.

 

[tidmutt]

With a 60 AMP breaker, you should be able to add more than 250 miles of charge per night.

That will top off the CT1 and the CT2 (assuming you have some reserves), and give you some pretty good mileage on the CT3.

The only way this is a big issue is if you frequently completely drain your battery and expect to do another 200+ mile trip the next day. I’m 8 months into Model Y ownership and only a bit frustrated with the much slower 110v/ 12 amp charger. If my state of charge is particularly low after a trip I just stop at a Supercharger for 10 minutes or so before coming home.

Model Y owner about 8 months in.

Mostly I charge at 110v/12 amp but for times when I need it I bought the 20 amp adapter and a 20 amp extension cord which I can run to my microwave or disposal power outlet to get 6 miles/hour instead of 4, which is gives an extra 20 miles overnight, not bad. I also bought the 30 amp and 50 amp Tesla wall plugs and a 50 amp extension cord and some 50a-30a adapters and every now and then plug into the upstairs dryer 30 amp outlet for 21 miles/hour. Beats paying supercharger rates, which are about 4 times what I pay at home. I have measured the temp of the cord, plugs on both ends for both the 20 amp and 50 amp cords and they barely get warm, so I feel quite safe doing this. I also bought the cords for camping with the Y and eventually maybe the CT in RV parks.

Note: I never plug the 50 amp Tesla wall plug into a 30 amp wall outlet via an adapter, that would be bad. I bought the mixture of cords, adapters to give me maximum flexibility without having to buy a 30 amp AND a 50 amp extension cord.

YMMV, some warn against doing this at home, but I've had zero issues.

 

[Ogre]

YMMV, some warn against doing this at home, but I've had zero issues.

I used the mobile adaptor with 110v for 18 months before switching and I wish I’d been able to switch sooner. While it’s tolerable to get 50 miles a night, it’s super nice to be able to decide you are doing a road trip on a Friday night and can charge to 100%. Or to return from a road trip with 5% charge and know you’ll have plenty of charge in the AM.

It cost me about $500 to DIY my Wall Connector install. Picked up the Wall Connector second hand for $250 and did the wiring myself. An electrician would have been 3x that, but still worth it I think. When I put in my second charger, it’ll likely be a bit more expensive because I need to add a 60 amp sub-panel (since that’s what I wired for and that’s what my breaker is), but with 2 Tesla Wall Connectors, I’ll enjoy the full 60 amps on each most of the time since it’s exceptionally rare that we’ll put a bunch of mileage on both cars at the same time.

I assume most people would have safe outlets and you’ll probably be fine in terms of safety. But it’s just nice to have a dedicated charger.

 

[tidmutt]

I used the mobile adaptor with 110v for 18 months before switching and I wish I’d been able to switch sooner. While it’s tolerable to get 50 miles a night, it’s super nice to be able to decide you are doing a road trip on a Friday night and can charge to 100%. Or to return from a road trip with 5% charge and know you’ll have plenty of charge in the AM.

It cost me about $500 to DIY my Wall Connector install. Picked up the Wall Connector second hand for $250 and did the wiring myself. An electrician would have been 3x that, but still worth it I think. When I put in my second charger, it’ll likely be a bit more expensive because I need to add a 60 amp sub-panel (since that’s what I wired for and that’s what my breaker is), but with 2 Tesla Wall Connectors, I’ll enjoy the full 60 amps on each most of the time since it’s exceptionally rare that we’ll put a bunch of mileage on both cars at the same time.

I assume most people would have safe outlets and you’ll probably be fine in terms of safety. But it’s just nice to have a dedicated charger.

Nice, I would also install a wall charger however we are currently renting. Our other vehicle is a Model X so big battery, less efficiency. The 110v/12a route charges around 2-3 miles/hour. When we eventually buy a place we'll likely do multiple wall chargers, maybe separate circuits, but I've heard multiple Tesla Wall Chargers will communicate and throttle charging so as not to kill say a single 50 amp line. Not ideal, but we'll see.

I tried to convince my landlord a couple of times now to let us install a 50 amp outlet in the garage. I've thought about doing it myself, although little worried about working at that level. I've done 110v/15amp outlets a few times, lighting, fans etc. but never something with that much juice. Sparky shouldn't charge that much though because we'd mount it right next to the box and there seems to be plenty of room in the panel (to these untrained eyes it seems that way). I figured for now we could plug into the 50 amp with just the mobile charger and add a wall charger later if we wish as I've seen some DIYs on wiring the chargers to a 50 amp outlet. However... damn landlord is a nong and thinks I wanted to "rewire the home", his words. I told him it would cost less than $500 most likely, so not sure what he thinks would be done for that price, but what can you do? As an aside, I've seen some info on how the home depot 30amp/50amp outlets melt over time, I think since they are not rated for sustained current at those levels... I was going to go for an alternative which was more $$$ but of course, actually lasts and less fire risk.

Honestly, I find all the charging options, figuring out how to find a faster charging speed kind of fun.

One funny issue I ran into is the outlet I plug my Y into is on the same circuit as an Xbox Series X in the living room. If it's gaming, running a CPU/GPU intensive load and the Y is charging, it flips the breaker. Annoying. There is definitely something to be said for a dedicated circuit for EV charging.

 

[Ogre]

One funny issue I ran into is the outlet I plug my Y into is on the same circuit as an Xbox Series X in the living room. If it's gaming, running a CPU/GPU intensive load and the Y is charging, it flips the breaker. Annoying. There is definitely something to be said for a dedicated circuit for EV charging.

If you don’t need to charge very quickly, you can turn the amount of amperage the car pulls down. Dropping it to 9amps should be enough to prevent it and still give you 75% of your charge speed without tripping the breaker.

On the console after you plug in, I think there are +/- symbols next to the amperage or something.

I’ve fortunately never had to rent for more than a few months, it definitely sucks not being able to fix your own issues.

Right now I think we’re approaching a good time to buy a home. Higher interest rates are bringing down purchase prices. Buy now and if rates come down, you can refinance lower. Obviously only relevant if you are at a time in life where putting down roots makes sense.

 

[tidmutt]

If you don’t need to charge very quickly, you can turn the amount of amperage the car pulls down. Dropping it to 9amps should be enough to prevent it and still give you 75% of your charge speed without tripping the breaker.

On the console after you plug in, I think there are +/- symbols next to the amperage or something.

I’ve fortunately never had to rent for more than a few months, it definitely sucks not being able to fix your own issues.

Right now I think we’re approaching a good time to buy a home. Higher interest rates are bringing down purchase prices. Buy now and if rates come down, you can refinance lower. Obviously only relevant if you are at a time in life where putting down roots makes sense.

Good point on adjusting the amperage, it doesn't happen very often, don't spend much timing gaming these days, it's usually my son's cousin who is the culprit. hehe

Yeah, we are waiting for the market to regain some sanity, the prices are ridiculous where we are. I shouldn't hope for a housing collapse, but maybe a nice little correction wouldn't be a bad thing. I've owned homes before, but all gone in a divorce. All good, happy she's in a good place in a house with the kids and the hubby and I are doing just fine. We have some investment properties and hope to move on a home some time in the next couple of years. Then I'll go crazy with solar, powerwalls, chargers, wardrobes to Narnia etc.

 

[CyberGus]

As eager as I may be, I cannot take advantage of the Austin Energy rebates for EV chargers unless I actually have a vehicle (yes, they ask for the VIN).

I guess my baby will be on a restricted diet for awhile.

 

[Ogre]

Good point on adjusting the amperage, it doesn't happen very often, don't spend much timing gaming these days, it's usually my son's cousin who is the culprit. hehe

Yeah, we are waiting for the market to regain some sanity, the prices are ridiculous where we are. I shouldn't hope for a housing collapse, but maybe a nice little correction wouldn't be a bad thing. I've owned homes before, but all gone in a divorce. All good, happy she's in a good place in a house with the kids and the hubby and I are doing just fine. We have some investment properties and hope to move on a home some time in the next couple of years. Then I'll go crazy with solar, powerwalls, chargers, wardrobes to Narnia etc.

Oo… I have a wardrobe, just haven’t figured out how to point it to Narnia yet. My cats occasionally disappear into it for hours at a time though. I’ve always wondered why they like it so much.

That and my sock drawer. Are there sock drawers to Narnia?

 

[Crissa]

As eager as I may be, I cannot take advantage of the Austin Energy rebates for EV chargers unless I actually have a vehicle (yes, they ask for the VIN).

I guess my baby will be on a restricted diet for awhile.

My used Zero qualified us for the EV rate ^-^

-Crissa

 

[CyberGus]

My used Zero qualified us for the EV rate ^-^

-Crissa

The DeLorean doesn't count as electrical, even with a flux capacitor

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