[Video + Pics] Cybertruck suspension at high setting height (loading onto trailer and public streets)

[Eye of Elon]

Yes

I want a SpaceX version, with COPV's and cold gas thrusters to escape getting high centered when test it in too deep snow.

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[cvalue13]

The only other mainstream vehicle with adjustable height (AFAIK) was the Citroen sedan of the 60s,

There are a handful of available SUVs and one truck with optional adaptive ride height available.

questions if anybody has answers.

1 Can the CT be DRIVEN (with normal dampening) when full up or down? <Citroen? No.>
2 Can the front or the rear be adjusted separately, for nose-up or nose-down? <No.>
3 Can the height adjustments be used in a wheel change? <Yes.>
4 If the adjustment mechanism fails, will the CT eventually fall to full-low & be drivable? <Yes & No.>

1. ‘Normal dampening’ at full up? depending on what you mean, I don’t think that’s possible with this sort of suspension setup. (Nor is it likely the CT may be driven at all speeds when in higher modes.)

2. we don’t know, and haven’t seen this since the OG prototype on stage in 2019; we’ll see if it makes it

3. Not exactly, no. These air suspensions use the increased air pressure to RAISE the truck, then use the truck’s weight to deflate the bags. The suspension does not have a “suck” function to retract a suspension arm.

that said, other trucks / SUV’s with these suspensions are able to ‘release’ a corner while a Jack is under the suspension arm, which makes it easier to then Jack up that corner

3. If it’s anything like other adj air suspension systems, if you blow a pressure line or bag it will fall to its bump stops and be effectively undrivable

 

[HaulingAss]

That’s what I was thinking too. But so far the only close up pictures of tires I’ve seen were 33 inch. Those do look more like 35s though you’re right. The truck looks so much better at full height.

16 inches of ground clearance would be more than anything out there built for the mainstream market. Extreme ground clearance is over-rated for getting where you want to go while driving skill is under-rated. The higher the mass of the Cybertruck is lifted above the ground (remember, the battery is lifted along with the body), the more driving skill is required on uneven terrain to avoid a roll-over. Off-road, roll-overs can happen to relatively inexperienced off-road drivers at the most unexpected times because they are often the result of a loss of traction causing a small sideways slide, followed by bumping up against a stop (like a rut or a rock). The higher the lift, the more driver skill and awareness is required. The most capable off-road vehicles tend to not have crazy high ground-clearances because, after around 12" of ground clearance, a high center of gravity is more likely to limit the kind of trails that can be traversed than a low ground clearance.

But the Cybertuck's ground clearance/center of gravity can be adjusted to suit each condition, which is the best of both worlds. The most extreme off-roading will not be conducted with maximum lift. That's mostly useful for fording deep water without becoming too buoyant to maintain traction or getting out of a deep bog/deep snow, where a high center of gravity is not going to be a problem. The range of travel front and rear will also be very useful to position the truck bed for the easiest loading/unloading of heavy items.

The latter is what I'm most excited about because getting in/out of the bed of my 2010 F-150 4x4 while doing truck stuff gets old real fast, even for my 6'-04" frame. It's a LONG way up into the bed, even when I'm climbing up there empty-handed. And forget about reaching over the side of the bed to grab anything heavy from the bed floor, the sides of the bed are simply too high. People have tried to create tha fasle narrative that the "wings" on the side of Cybertrucks bed will disqualify it from being a good work truck, but they don't know what they are talking about. With the Cybertruck's suspension set full low, it will be easier, not more difficult, to reach over the side of the bed to grab something.

With the front suspension set to full high and the rear set to full low, heavy stuff will load and unload over the tailgate so much easier. If the Cybertruck allows the truck to be driven this way, at least up 10-15 mph, entire loads of firewood can be unloaded with a short burst of acceleration. I alway prefer to use my head over time and sweat, so I will often plan the unloading of things like beauty bark or dirt before I load it by placing a tarp such that I can tie it off and drop the load by driving out from underneath it. You can save a lot of time this way and the Cybertruck's ability to slope backwards will only increase the possibilities.

It's pretty rare that I need to truck my Suzuki DR650, so, when I do, I often need to get creative with loading and unloading because the bed is so high and I don't have a long enough ramp that's strong enough. I'll drive the front wheels of my F-150 onto a curb (if handy) or build a pile of lumber to drive the front wheels on to drop the tailgate lower. I will look for natural low spots to park the rear wheels. The Cybertruck will do this at the push of a button.

 

[HaulingAss]

I wonder how long it takes to go from full up to full down?

By my reckoning, about 10 pecks to go from full-high to slammed.

 

[madquadbiker]

Yes

That looks to be around twice the length of my 5 gallon Accuair Endo CVT tank, the larger the capacity of the tank the better performance of the system and you may get a couple of full cycles before the compressor kicks in, mind you those bags are going to hold a lot of air at full height, I’m estimating 8” bags.
I’m sure there will be air suspension specialists like AccuAir that will offer upgrades so you can control each wheel independently like their eLevel setup if Tesla only offer a basic configuration.

 

[Baldey]

Mmmmmmm. Loading up Cybertruck’s for more validation testing?

I have a strong suspicion that Cybertruck Delivery Day may get bumped to Q4.

They shut down the CT line recently to prepare for mass production. What makes you think these vehicles are being shipped off for validation? Could be that nation wide release roomer being true. Im sure some of these trucks are being used for real-world testing, but all 600 of them? I'm pretty sure they arent itterating and scrapping through prototypes, if that's what you're thinking.. Validation's complete.

 

[PilotPete]

They shut down the CT line recently to prepare for mass production. What makes you think these vehicles are being shipped off for validation? Could be that nation wide release roomer being true. Im sure some of these trucks are being used for real-world testing, but all 600 of them? I'm pretty sure they arent itterating and scrapping through prototypes, if that's what you're thinking.. Validation's complete.

I don’t think we have 600 CTs built. I think the VIN started at 500 something. I don’t think or have seen ANY VIN or hint of a VIN below 500.

 

[charliemagpie]

Perhaps some of those badly scratched and damaged CT's were used to train / repair in a real life Tesla repair centers.

I think current production can scale up quickly to say 50-100 per day before release. We may not yet have seen any customer versions yet.

 

[CyberGus]

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[Crissa]

Extreme ground clearance is over-rated for getting where you want to go while driving skill is under-rated.

Yeah, so many times I have gotten my little car - first my 80s Civic all the way to today's Mazda 3 - way out on forest service roads and guys with their raised trucks would be baffled how I got there and better yet, how I got out without help.

It's all a matter of keeping your tires and car balanced over the ruts. With lots of clearance, you can easily get over-confident about the ruts and tip over or get a wheel into a rut and you're done.

-Crissa

 

[Ehninger1212]

Man I hope this thing is priced affordably. Its just so Beautiful

 

[SentinelOne]

Yeah, so many times I have gotten my little car - first my 80s Civic all the way to today's Mazda 3 - way out on forest service roads and guys with their raised trucks would be baffled how I got there and better yet, how I got out without help.

It's all a matter of keeping your tires and car balanced over the ruts. With lots of clearance, you can easily get over-confident about the ruts and tip over or get a wheel into a rut and you're done.

-Crissa

If you can offroad in a civic you're gonna be a bad ass in the CT! Like most things, skill and experience go a long way vs. just nice equipment - granted I do prefer both!

 

[PATEL]

Video of highest suspension set Cybertruck in traffic

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Video of highest suspension set Cybertruck in traffic

It is questionable whether the Cybertruck can be driven at its highest suspension on city streets. What evidence do you have that this is the highest setting?

 

[sstevens805]

When I had my Ram the tires would wear on the inside due to the negative camber from when the suspension dropped into 'Aero Mode' which was above 65 if my memory is correct. Does anyone know how the suspension geometry will work based on what we've seen so far? Will lifting and lowering change the camber or has Tesla created some slick system to prevent this?

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