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No one said they were interchangable. The phrase "like a leaf blower" was used to describe how the item could be used. Maybe you have never used a compressor to blow out debris from a corner of your shop or other area. I have.
Mostly frustrated that autocorrect keeps changing nit pick to bit pick.
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While I disagree with the first, I agree with your conclusion.

Exoskeleton is not really an industry term. Hard to really say what it is meant to mean.

Cybertruck definitely has a lot in common with unibody vehicles.
Cybertruck definitely IS a unibody vehicle!

Thankfully! I am so done with owning/driving crude, springy twin beam ladder frames! Old, outdated technology! I can't believe Detroit stuck with them for so long!
 
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Look at where the white paint (or paint primer as you call it) extends up the A and B pillars. It clearly fades out towards the top, where the pillars join the roof frame. This is not how paint is used to protect from corrosion. Clearly the paint is being used for other purposes here (most likely to increase the contrast or visibility of the structure). If it were being used to protect from water and corrosion it would cover the entireity of the steel structure (unless they ran out of paint half-way through).

It's also not clear why you are so sure it's "paint primer". Primer is generally not glossy. In any case, it's abundantly clear this is never going to be a finished Cybertruck. It's a development chassis. There would be no reason to protect it from water because it's going to live out it's short life inside. It's just a tool.
Corrosion protection is not done by the primer but the coating below it which covers the entirety of the structure, bare aluminum or steel is not this dark of a gray. Primer is used to prep for painting, which is going to be necessary on that part because it will be visible once fully assembled unlike the rest of surfaces that have not been primed.

Why the primer doesn't go all the way up the pillars could be due to the fact that those parts will be covered by trim pieces so won't be visible once finished or maybe they just aren't done yet. As I already stated, in the Q3 call they talked about Elon's beta CT being built so I think this could very well be it.
 

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While I disagree with the first, I agree with your conclusion.

Exoskeleton is not really an industry term. Hard to really say what it is meant to mean.

Cybertruck definitely has a lot in common with unibody vehicles.
Yeah I think Elon just means the outer "shell" panels also help keep the structure more rigid and stronger because of the thick stainless steel. Where most other body panels on other vehicles are purely for design and some aerodynamics and not for structure.
 


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Corrosion protection is not done by the primer but the coating below it which covers the entirety of the structure, bare aluminum or steel is not this dark of a gray. Primer is used to prep for painting, which is going to be necessary on that part because it will be visible once fully assembled unlike the rest of surfaces that have not been primed.

Why the primer doesn't go all the way up the pillars could be due to the fact that those parts will be covered by trim pieces so won't be visible once finished or maybe they just aren't done yet. As I already stated, in the Q3 call they talked about Elon's beta CT being built so I think this could very well be it.
Please stop with the nonsense! This is never going to be an actual Cybertruck! You have no idea what kind of metal is under that paint either. Stop pretending you know. One of the biggest advantages of the Cybertruck is the chassis doesn't have to be put in the zinc dunk tank or paint shop. That saves a ton of money. This is just a production or test jig of some sort.
 

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Duh! The stainless steel skin has not been applied yet! And there is no way to tell if the visible sheet metal stampings are stainless or regular steel. We don't know yet and the fact that it's painted doesn't tell us that. It could be painted for visibility reasons. Clearly, it's not painted for corrosion protection because the paint does not extend to the top of the assembly! If the paint was meant to protect from water, the entire thing would be painted.

Duh!
I have nothing to say beyond that the underbody pieces wouldn't be left bare. Rust proofing, primer, paint, whatever, is beyond what I was saying. As you say, we have no idea what they will be made of or how, but history kind of tells us that they might be made of aluminum and stamped like for other Tesla cars. I only mentioned SS because someone else suggested it and I really don't know but it would make fastening it to the exoskeleton easier.
 

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Maybe you haven't seen my other posts on this subject. A unibody vehicle can correctly be said to have an exoskeleton. That's what unibody refers to! Duh!

That the skin doesn't take a large portion of the load in a unibody does not disqualify it from being "exoskeleton" because the existence of a thin skin is not enough to disqualify it, especially since that skin contributes to the strength and becomes part of the structure. The term "exoskeleton" refers to whether the frame or skeleton is centralized or not. This is perhaps more clear in the animal kindom where the term originated than in manufactured items but a term is just used to communicate a principle.

Unibody vehicles can be accurately said to have an exoskeleton. The Cybertruck takes it to a new level because the outermost skin layer contributes a much more significant amount of the overall strength. In both cases the term is used to communicate a principle because a machine is not an animal.

Even the body structure of an F-150 could be said to have an exoskeleton but that doesn't make the truck an exoskeleton vehicle. If you applied the term to to the entire vehicle it would be incorrect or non-sensical because the body structure is just bolted to the chassis and does not contribute significantly to the overall structure of the vehicle. Yet, the cab and bed, looked at independently, also have supporting structure and that structure is not centralized but exterior.

In the end, it's just a term that is useful to describe how something is supported. Don't get overly hung up on it.
Somehow I wonder what 'duh' means here because a unibody is not structural. As mentioned by others, the skin of a unibody vehicle is cosmetic and not structural. A unibody vehicle can accurately be said to have a skin, not an exoskeleton. I do not think that you could find a definition of exoskeleton that doesn't perform the same function as an endoskeleton; it carries load. That one distinction tells us that it is not a unibody. I really don't care what we end up calling it as long as unibody isn't one of the choices.
 

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Please stop with the nonsense! This is never going to be an actual Cybertruck! You have no idea what kind of metal is under that paint either. Stop pretending you know. One of the biggest advantages of the Cybertruck is the chassis doesn't have to be put in the zinc dunk tank or paint shop. That saves a ton of money. This is just a production or test jig of some sort.
I'm not pretending I know, I am simply stating an opinion. The only one speaking in absolutes here is you. Unless you think that is all stainless steel (aluminum castings aside) it should be coated.
 

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The more I stare at this image, the less likely it is to me that this is in fact shot in Giga Texas.
Here's a confirmed inside Giga Texas visual for reference, and the Cyber body shot below too.
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Maybe it's a forced perspective thing, it just doesn't look.. "right".
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The columns looks the same to me. There's a wide variety of columns and floors in the factory at Giga Texas.

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The columns looks the same to me. There's a wide variety of columns and floors in the factory at Giga Texas.

-Crissa
Nah. I’m not convinced. Thanks for trying though. (I think if it’s Giga Texas, this is battery area or first floor behind the wall in general entrance.)
 

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...Then you're messy, and it's your own fault for carrying bulk cargo with midgate and vault open? ?

It is illegal to drive a pickup that has any of that blowing around, in any of the three westernmost states. Cover your load, clean your truck!

Do you also complain that it comes in when you open your windows?

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Who said anything about carrying bulk cargo with the mid-gate open?

Debri from my bed has never blown into my open windows...so no, I don't complain about that.
 

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Can we stop arguing about what's an exoskeleton?

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This is an exoskeleton. Notice the lack of load-bearing skin. But! It's also not a unibody. It's segmented.

Exoskeleton just means, the skeleton is on the outside,

In the venn diagram of structures, unibody and exoskeleton have alot of overlap.

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