Poll: What aspect of CT Are you Unhappy With

[Roy2001]

There should be an option for internal dimension. It is not like a fullsize truck.

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[jookyone]

So I'll just keep my two 20 plus year old trucks that have lower ownership costs over Thier entire lives to date and get work done

Sounds like you don't need to be here anymore. Good day sir.

 

[Walter]

Sounds like you don't need to be here anymore. Good day sir.

Yeah I'm a truck owner not a fan boy

 

[davelloydbrown]

Yeah I'm a truck owner not a fan boy

I am a fan boy and a truck owner and my truck is 15 years old.

At that price I think it will be mostly people who drive trucks because they are big (safe?) and not because they need a truck.

 

[SentinelOne]

Yeah I'm a truck owner not a fan boy

Avalanche isn't a truck!

 

[davelloydbrown]

Avalanche isn't a truck!

Haha true!

 

[Walter]

Avalanche isn't a truck!

It got the job done. I needed cyber truck to replace it

 

[jookyone]

Avalanche isn't a truck!

Technically it's a Suburban with the top lopped off, but I agree with Walter, it was the most utilitarian vehicle I've ever owned. Taking the midgate out and hauling full 4x8 sheets with the tailgate up was special (but windy).

 

[BayouCityBob]

Same charging speed as other Teslas, 250 kw max.

Not true see my other post.... or interview below. Yay!

 

[dukeandtheland]

Dude first needs to re-learn elementary school math; after getting at least B+, go ahead and pick up econ 101.
"They literally raised the price the exact amount of inflation"

Inflation is a ratio. Price is an amount. You cannnot raise the price the exact amount of inflation. Maybe possible in blackhoe but Cannot be done in this universe.

Now that you kinda got the concept of ratio, let's actually look at the prices:
increased 53% for single motor, 60% for Dual and 43% for Tri, respectively when comared to the 2019 originals, which are premises for value proposition with a prototype physically presented and driven. NOT an empty promise!

Inflation, as bad as everyone is complaning about, is an annual concept. The annual inflation rate for the United States was 3.2% for the 12 months ended October, compared to 3.7% previously, according to Labor Dept data published on Nov. 14, 2023. The next update comes out on Dec. 12 at 8:30 a.m. ET, which will tell the rate for the 12 months ended November 2023.
The preivous ratios are:
2020: 1.4%
2021: 7%
2022: 6.5%
Let's say Biden adminitration is full of crap so we double all the rates abve. What do you get?
The supply chain cost spike has eased off to 2019 level. Material inflation is not the cause here; it should help Tesla, if any.

When I see the Tri @ 100K, I also see the range of 320. You first get screwed with Elon hacking the range by 180 miles, or 36% shrink (at this point the price should shrink accordingly, but NO it did not), then get screwed again by paying 43% more (at this point the spec should at least stay the same, but NO it did not).
All the techs and engineering efforts are amazing bu they are irrelevant when evaluating the value proposition, which failed miserably. You can throw in wonderful techologies into the truck and make it the best of the world. Ferrai is the best but it sells a fraction of Porsches. A product matrix is multi-dimensional. There are X, Y, and Z axles.

We know that Tesla knows; and Tesla is knowingly let the early adopters subsidizing the high cost, low volume curve until cost comes down and volume goes up. These people will pay regardless, just not not the targeted mass anymore. There should be enough of these people for 2 years. I would still be interested in the Tri if it's 500mi but it's not. Not that I need that 500mi; I just don't like paying for a value non existent. Sub 3.0 sec is cool. But cool doesn't last more than a week.

The question we should ask is, what happened? 4 years later, from 500mi to 320mi, just to stand competitive to Rivian, lighting and maybe Silverado? Where's the battery progress? Where is the cost reduction contribution of all the new techs, manufacuring process revolutions? Aren't you supposed to lead, to wipe out, to leave them in the dust?
Bullet proof ? Stainless steel? Me no ganster no hollywood trust fund baby, no rapper. Nice to have but how many other than those, will be willing to pay 40% more?
Range extender to take up 1/3 of the bed, seriously, WTF Elon!
If they can strap 500mi easily under the truck, why didn't they do it already? Too expensive? too heavy? doesn't fit? not enough capacity?

Last night, google search of Rivian, lighting and Chey EV went up astronomically.
2019: eyes on CT. Nothing else even comes close. No brainer buy.
2023: It's been 4 years. Tesla must have made huge improvements and at least it will deliver as promised + understandable price increase.
Today: Let's compare and see what else is out there!

I don’t understand what people were expecting. They literally raised the price the exact amount of inflation. People act like the pandemic didn’t happen right after the announcement.

 

[CyberCop]

Price is the killer for me.
Was really hoping Elon would consider folks on a lower budget and at 40k and 50k it was attainable.
Not now…

 

[jerhenderson]

That still have overall lower ownership costs when compared to this paper wait

** weight. ** And EVs have lower ownership costs over their life.

 

[Fleetwood75]

I don't mind the price because I can afford it. I wish I could get 400 miles of range without an extender, but I'll just buy the extender and take a hit on cargo room in the bed. The only real bummer to me, which falls under that "other" category, is no roll-down rear window.

 

[jerhenderson]

don't buy the 100k version.

 

[jerhenderson]

Dude first needs to re-learn elementary school math; after getting at least B+, go ahead and pick up econ 101.
"They literally raised the price the exact amount of inflation"

Inflation is a ratio. Price is an amount. You cannnot raise the price the exact amount of inflation. Maybe possible in blackhoe but Cannot be done in this universe.

Now that you kinda got the concept of ratio, let's actually look at the prices:
increased 53% for single motor, 60% for Dual and 43% for Tri, respectively when comared to the 2019 originals, which are premises for value proposition with a prototype physically presented and driven. NOT an empty promise!

Inflation, as bad as everyone is complaning about, is an annual concept. The annual inflation rate for the United States was 3.2% for the 12 months ended October, compared to 3.7% previously, according to Labor Dept data published on Nov. 14, 2023. The next update comes out on Dec. 12 at 8:30 a.m. ET, which will tell the rate for the 12 months ended November 2023.
The preivous ratios are:
2020: 1.4%
2021: 7%
2022: 6.5%
Let's say Biden adminitration is full of crap so we double all the rates abve. What do you get?
The supply chain cost spike has eased off to 2019 level. Material inflation is not the cause here; it should help Tesla, if any.

When I see the Tri @ 100K, I also see the range of 320. You first get screwed with Elon hacking the range by 180 miles, or 36% shrink (at this point the price should shrink accordingly, but NO it did not), then get screwed again by paying 43% more (at this point the spec should at least stay the same, but NO it did not).
All the techs and engineering efforts are amazing bu they are irrelevant when evaluating the value proposition, which failed miserably. You can throw in wonderful techologies into the truck and make it the best of the world. Ferrai is the best but it sells a fraction of Porsches. A product matrix is multi-dimensional. There are X, Y, and Z axles.

We know that Tesla knows; and Tesla is knowingly let the early adopters subsidizing the high cost, low volume curve until cost comes down and volume goes up. These people will pay regardless, just not not the targeted mass anymore. There should be enough of these people for 2 years. I would still be interested in the Tri if it's 500mi but it's not. Not that I need that 500mi; I just don't like paying for a value non existent. Sub 3.0 sec is cool. But cool doesn't last more than a week.

The question we should ask is, what happened? 4 years later, from 500mi to 320mi, just to stand competitive to Rivian, lighting and maybe Silverado? Where's the battery progress? Where is the cost reduction contribution of all the new techs, manufacuring process revolutions? Aren't you supposed to lead, to wipe out, to leave them in the dust?
Bullet proof ? Stainless steel? Me no ganster no hollywood trust fund baby, no rapper. Nice to have but how many other than those, will be willing to pay 40% more?
Range extender to take up 1/3 of the bed, seriously, WTF Elon!
If they can strap 500mi easily under the truck, why didn't they do it already? Too expensive? too heavy? doesn't fit? not enough capacity?

Last night, google search of Rivian, lighting and Chey EV went up astronomically.
2019: eyes on CT. Nothing else even comes close. No brainer buy.
2023: It's been 4 years. Tesla must have made huge improvements and at least it will deliver as promised + understandable price increase.
Today: Let's compare and see what else is out there!

there's not much else out there, and the CT is the superior vehicle by specs, competitively priced.

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