Cybertruck Charging Curve (Recorded by Owner)

[Gurule92]

How? Tesla uses 800v internally for cabling efficiency and a reduction in copper used, the split pack is for comparability with old 400v chargers and new 800v chargers. The only issue with charge speed from a 400v charger would be if the cybertruck could take more amps than the 400v charger could deliver, which it cannot.

The CT can take 350kw from V4.

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/tesla/cybertruck

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[CyberMoose]

Some people will come on here in almost every thread and complain about pretty much anything.
I don't see this as an issue. The Cybertruck will not get as many miles/minute as other Tesla models because it uses more energy per mile and has a larger battery to make up the range.

Even when we have faster chargers everywhere, you would still spend more time charging the Cybertruck than you would a model 3, and it's not guaranteed that every charger you visit will be the faster ones. You might get a 250kwh charger, or a 150kwh charger, or you might find yourself in an area with no superchargers and your best option is an 80kwh charger from another company. It's no secret that non Tesla owners sometimes have to be very patient with chargers, this is still a risk for Tesla owners when they are in certain areas.

This really shouldn't come to a surprise to anyone. lets say you had a 500 mile range Cybertruck. There is no way Tesla ever expected to do that with a 123kwh battery. Most people were expecting a 200kwh battery which probably would have had to be one on top of another to fit. But a 200kwh battery would have still taken a long time to charge 10-90% at most Tesla superchargers. Imagine needing to charge at 80kwh somewhere. You might not even get a full charge from when you plug in after work to when you leave in the morning if you had a low charge.

and I've said this a lot, but the Cybertruck won't be for everyone. Especially people that need the range or need to tow. But 95% or more of the people that buy Cybertrucks will benefit from not having a stacked battery. We don't need a taller Cybertruck or less interior space and we don't need to lug around a heavy battery when we use maybe 1/7th of the battery every day (average daily miles for likely real world range).

I wanted a 500 mile Cybertruck too because it sounded awesome. but also lets face it, the vast majority wouldn't have gotten the beast anyway. I believe that if given the option and no limitation on production, the RWD Cybertruck would be the best seller. It's likely that Tesla will prioritize AWD units and that will likely be the most common one. That AWD version that most of us will probably be driving will have more range than what we expected.

Tesla made decisions that benefited the majority of people. I don't even think Beast owners will be disappointed because most of those people want the Cybertruck to stand out and probably cared more about the 2.9 second 0-60 time, which has been improved.

 

[Saygmo]

The CT can take 350kw from V4.

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/tesla/cybertruck

Just because Tesla says so….

Will believe it when I see it, considering it ramps so quickly at a 250kw sc. what are we going to get, 350kw for a minute, then 250kw for a few minutes and on down the charging curve.

 

[Gurule92]

Just because Tesla says so….

Will believe it when I see it, considering it ramps so quickly at a 250kw sc. what are we going to get, 350kw for a minute, then 250kw for a few minutes and on down the charging curve.

possible for sure. Time will tell

 

[cybercoffee]

No real details given in the video regarding charging location.

In the video, it says Mesa Arizona West Guadalupe, which should be v3 250 kW unless i'm getting confused.

 

[Saygmo]

At this point it basically matches the model x and model s plaid charge curve. Not great for having an additional 25kwh battery size in their newest flagship product, and consuming what, 30% more energy? I really miss that 500mile range that was promised. Even an additional 20-30kwh under the bed would give it that much better charge curve without sacrificing highway range much at all ?

 

[CyberGus]

The only issue with charge speed from a 400v charger would be if the cybertruck could take more amps than the 400v charger could deliver, which it cannot.

Source?

 

[Saygmo]

Source?

Ok, extrapolating from the charge curve. “Likely cannot”.
I can’t wait for someone to get a cybertruck to a proper v4 800v sc and see the charge curve. Anyways, peak rate is meaningless if it drops off after a few minutes, like the curve shown. It cannot sustain. Hopefully it’s a software issue and can be fixed as Tesla gains data on the new batteries and charging system, proving the cooling can keep them cool, but for every battery there’s a peak c rate that you can’t go over, and charge rate can only increase by adding more cells and thus capacity.

 

[Zoomit]

With a reasonable extrapolation, this charging curve meets Tesla’s stated charge rate spec of 136 mi in 15 min for the DM CT.

136 mi is 40% of the 340 mi total range. It should be able to charge from 0 to 40% in 15 minutes.

With a reasonable ramp up to 250 kW from 0%, maintaining 250kW until 20% and tapering to 150kW at 40% SOC should take a little under 15 minutes. It might even be able to go from 5 to 45% in 15 minutes.

 

[Gigahorse]

People don't realize that there are like three V4 chargers, so pretty much a non-factor.

Hopefully the really poor charge curves we are seeing currently on the CT will be fixed with software in the next week or two.
Because the truck needs either good range, or good charging, both would be nice but it CAN NOT miss on both and we all know 500+ miles of range is long gone, so a lot is resting on charging speed.

 

[Gurule92]

With a reasonable extrapolation, this charging curve meets Tesla’s stated charge rate spec of 138 mi in 15 min for the DM CT.

136 mi is 40% of the 340 mi total range. It should be able to charge from 0 to 40% in 15 minutes.

With a reasonable ramp up to 250 kW from 0%, maintaining 250kW until 20% and tapering to 150kW at 40% SOC should take a little under 15 minutes. It might even be able to go from 5 to 45% in 15 minutes.

People don't realize that there are like three V4 chargers, so pretty much a non-factor.

Hopefully the really poor charge curves we are seeing currently on the CT will be fixed with software in the next week or two.
Because the truck needs either good range, or good charging, both would be nice but it CAN NOT miss on both and we all know 500+ miles of range is long gone, so a lot is resting on charging speed.

@Gigahorse if you're referring to the post above yours. That's at v3

 

[Gigahorse]

@Gigahorse if you're referring to the post above yours. That's at v3

Yea all the #s we have so far are from V3s and V2s but 90% are V3s, the curve currently looks really bad but hopefully will improve in the next day or two with some software pushes.

 

[Gurule92]

Yea all the #s we have so far are from V3s and V2s but 90% are V3s, the curve currently looks really bad but hopefully will improve in the next day or two with some software pushes.

We haven't seen a 0-40% run. So he may not be wrong. Also, could need more preconditioning. Can't judge now

 

[Gigahorse]

We haven't seen a 0-40% run. So he may not be wrong. Also, could need more preconditioning. Can't judge now

Yea, that one had a good 20+ mins of preconditioning, not sharing voltage at a charger, etc.

0-40 I am sure will look better but personally think if numbers from 90-100 should be thrown out because "who charges to 100!?!?!" that sub 10% should be also, because do you really want to be under 10% that often?

 

[Gurule92]

Yea, that one had a good 20+ mins of preconditioning, not sharing voltage at a charger, etc.

0-40 I am sure will look better but personally think if numbers from 90-100 should be thrown out because "who charges to 100!?!?!" that sub 10% should be also, because do you really want to be under 10% that often?

Back in the plan your own trip days. We would try to get to superchargers as low as possible. 90-100 takes forever to charge. 0-10 doesn't. That's why we throw top out.

But bottom can be bad too if it's cold

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