Considering Trading in my New Cybertruck for a Model X

[Mini2nut]

The Model X is nearly 10-years old now and is an assembly nightmare for the Fremont assembly line workers. It’s a very finicky SUV/Minivan to assemble and have all of the exterior panels and weatherstripping parts look spot on.

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[Spacenoddle]

I have to disagree. I drove in heavy rain for 3 hours from LA through grapevine highway high elevation the wiper did very good, I used side mirrors and rear camera i don't remember i had issues with rear visibility.

So the only reason driving with closed tonneau is for range? If i don't care of range for local driving, i can always leave it open like other pickups?

 

[smggsm]

So the only reason driving with closed tonneau is for range? If i don't care of range for local driving, i can always leave it open like other pickups?

yes, in local divining I keep it open, but tonneau can protect luggage's from the sun and rain.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Great response. this is very helpful. Even now as i type this response im in the CT writing, I've noticed the headrest in the center front seats is really nice for a laptop. I too am 6'6 towering so was curious if it was compromising seat space like the Model Y I had.
Im so compelled to stay with the truck and now what you're saying really helps reinforce the decision to keep the truck.
I am married without kids but surf, dive, kite, etc. and thought this would be the perfect ride for my lifestyle, but wasnt sure if the above are the issues with having a truck and perhaps it is.
I do remember lugging dive gear in the model Y was always scary that youd mess up the back area or the car would smell.
Your response inspires me to keep the truck and use it for its creation to throw stuff in the back like sandy beach chairs, surf boards and the ilk. keep the ppl inside and the crap outside.

Thank you for your response.

A florida CT owner

You meant to say keep the gear safe and the crappy people inside, right? For me, gear and dogs get the best part of the car. Anyway, I always have a wet box for wetsuits, etc. so no smell.

 

[JudyTran]

I've been seeing so many controversial videos and comments about the Cybertruck. After having this for about 2 weeks, im starting to understand the quirks about this vehicle and can align with several of the video's concerns around

1. Price
2. Range below 300mi to the charge - but I knew this.
3. Limited Visibility and A pillar visibility
4. Difficultly driving in the rain using the rear camera and the singular windshield wiper
5. parking issues with overall length and lack of park assist
6. Bad corners on the frunk
7. A new money suck with the $15k battery upgrade and $6k vehicle wrap for fingerprinting
8. interior lacking for a $100k vehicle purchase
   
   I am curious on the Model X owners. What issues do you have with that vehicle???
   
   I think back in 2019 I was a different guy and not 6 years later im starting to realize that perhaps I am a Model X guy and no longer a cybertruck guy. I've been having some concerns about the truck but am trying to understand if the X is the better way to go. I was totally sold on the price and range back in 2019 and now that its 6 years later, both have me slightly compromised.
   
   What concerns are with the X and does anyone else share my sentiments on the truck.

I have a 2019 model X and a GMC truck. I am trading in my model X and hope once we have the CT we won’t need the GMC. The model X is a 5 seater and we have the back seat folded down almost all the time (we do not have young kids) to make room for all of our tools.
I will miss the free charging for life however.

 

[greenporsche]

I've been driving a Model X since 2016 so my experience will be different than the newest versions.

I'm 6' and realized that I can't see the front of the Model X and also have A-pillar visibility issues on some larger sweeping left hand turns. It's mostly a non-issue since my 2016 has ultrasonic sensors for parking and hood visibility, but newer versions have them removed in lieu of camera visualizations. I've seen some review videos on the camera based object detection, which looks pretty promising, so maybe it's not a concern for either the Model X or Cybertruck (future implementation?).

I love my Model X and will really miss it when I get my Cybertruck. I think that if the Cybertruck didn't have rear steering, I would be more hesitant to get it, but I'm anticipating about the same urban maneuverability, with some adjustments to size and tire pathing. For my daily driving, I think it will require a bit more forethought for parking, but I'm surrounded by large trucks that have no issue navigating spaces.

I have a family of 5 with three young kids and the falcon wing doors are the best thing for kids in car seats. Also, being able to control all the doors is great for offloading for the school bus. We're pretty packed in when we take weekend trips, and utilize every cubic inch of storage. I have a 7-seater with monopod seats in the second row, which allows for some additional space underneath, but my second row center seat has a high headrest (fixed in later versions) which blocks rearview mirror visibility.

Back when I got it, there weren't a lot of Teslas in my state, which didn't even have a service center. It attracted a good amount of attention and you get a sixth sense to when people are looking at you. I enjoy talking to people and telling them about the positive and negative aspects of driving a BEV and attended a few Electric Drive events to offer rides. The Falcon wing doors still turn some heads when they open, but the Model X still isn't very common in my state.

I don't believe they ever fixed the front halfshaft premature wear issue. I've had mine replaced three times before getting the suggestion from the service center to always keep the car in low suspension mode. As I understand it, low suspension decreases the angle between the front drive motor and wheels, reducing wear on the bearing surfaces of the halfshafts. As such, the Model X roof sits at just about the same height as the Model Y, which is a little disappointing. It also makes the ride a little stiffer, which I don't mind, but should be considered.

The newest Model X's are stalkless but at least you have the option for a round handwheel. I would not want to use the yoke without steer by wire. Vented seats in mine are probably similar to those in the Cybertruck. Noticeable but not butt puckeringly cold like a Ford King Ranch.

I'm trading in my Model X for the Cybertruck because I need more storage space. Even with the third row folded down 5 carry-ons and a cooler with all the additional kids entertainment stuff is pushing the storage capacity of the trunk, under-trunk, and frunk. Also, I think I've hit a critical level for delivery fees for plywood, lumber, mulch, gravel, and sand. I have the tow package, but my HOA is a PITA when it comes to outdoor storage of trailers.

I've always thought of the Model X as a great people mover but it seems like the Model S has more hauling capacity. Maybe it's different if you get a 5 seater with the fold down second row, but the monopod 7 seater I have has always been limited in that respect. Great daily driver and a capable road tripper. If you don't need the utility of a truck, then the Model X and S would be a good choice.

All great points. I have had ours since 9/2018 and LOVE it. We got the 7 seat interior-VERY useful when needed and out of the way otherwise. I pull an airstream and can go about 100 miles at 55mph (depending on wind).

 

[Celiboy]

So the only reason driving with closed tonneau is for range? If i don't care of range for local driving, i can always leave it open like other pickups?

Yes, it’s designed to help with range. If that’s not a concern then leaving it open like a traditional truck lets you use the actual mirror.

 

[CTInProcess]

I have a 2019 model X and a GMC truck. I am trading in my model X and hope once we have the CT we won’t need the GMC. The model X is a 5 seater and we have the back seat folded down almost all the time (we do not have young kids) to make room for all of our tools.
I will miss the free charging for life however.

Biggest difference is you own a truck and know how to drive it. Some buyers this will be their first large vehicle and sometimes it’s not what they need, especially for the Price. I mean a $100k tank vs a $72k Car with enough cargo space for everyday tasks. It’s a no brainer.

 

[Wolfgram]

I've been seeing so many controversial videos and comments about the Cybertruck. After having this for about 2 weeks, im starting to understand the quirks about this vehicle and can align with several of the video's concerns around

1. Price
2. Range below 300mi to the charge - but I knew this.
3. Limited Visibility and A pillar visibility
4. Difficultly driving in the rain using the rear camera and the singular windshield wiper
5. parking issues with overall length and lack of park assist
6. Bad corners on the frunk
7. A new money suck with the $15k battery upgrade and $6k vehicle wrap for fingerprinting
8. interior lacking for a $100k vehicle purchase
   
   I am curious on the Model X owners. What issues do you have with that vehicle???
   
   I think back in 2019 I was a different guy and not 6 years later im starting to realize that perhaps I am a Model X guy and no longer a cybertruck guy. I've been having some concerns about the truck but am trying to understand if the X is the better way to go. I was totally sold on the price and range back in 2019 and now that its 6 years later, both have me slightly compromised.
   
   What concerns are with the X and does anyone else share my sentiments on the truck.

I almost bought an X while waiting for CT. I am SO GLAD that I bought the CT. It is the BEST driving Tesla. Period. The X is quirky and flakey at best, and the CT is solid and smooth and quiet. It’s easy to park, has great visibility, and a super roadtrip vehicle. Get the truck.

 

[Makeodds101]

I've been seeing so many controversial videos and comments about the Cybertruck. After having this for about 2 weeks, im starting to understand the quirks about this vehicle and can align with several of the video's concerns around

1. Price
2. Range below 300mi to the charge - but I knew this.
3. Limited Visibility and A pillar visibility
4. Difficultly driving in the rain using the rear camera and the singular windshield wiper
5. parking issues with overall length and lack of park assist
6. Bad corners on the frunk
7. A new money suck with the $15k battery upgrade and $6k vehicle wrap for fingerprinting
8. interior lacking for a $100k vehicle purchase
   
   I am curious on the Model X owners. What issues do you have with that vehicle???
   
   I think back in 2019 I was a different guy and not 6 years later im starting to realize that perhaps I am a Model X guy and no longer a cybertruck guy. I've been having some concerns about the truck but am trying to understand if the X is the better way to go. I was totally sold on the price and range back in 2019 and now that its 6 years later, both have me slightly compromised.
   
   What concerns are with the X and does anyone else share my sentiments on the truck.

About point 4....Don't know if it will help but on every car I've owned in the past few years I always do the trick with the windshield. Wipe the windshield wiper down with a WD-40 and Windex the windshield to get the grime off. I've seen it work wonders on early 2000s truck, maybe it'll work for you and the rain. Just an idea to eliminate a "con".

 

[kpanda17]

Did you just counterpoint all of the reasons the cybertruck does not work for HIM?

He is not telling other people not to buy it, just listing the reasons why the truck does not work for him and asking about a model X.

the intent was for the larger audience and I did close bidding him farewell

 

[Agassi]

I've been seeing so many controversial videos and comments about the Cybertruck. After having this for about 2 weeks, im starting to understand the quirks about this vehicle and can align with several of the video's concerns around

1. Price
2. Range below 300mi to the charge - but I knew this.
3. Limited Visibility and A pillar visibility
4. Difficultly driving in the rain using the rear camera and the singular windshield wiper
5. parking issues with overall length and lack of park assist
6. Bad corners on the frunk
7. A new money suck with the $15k battery upgrade and $6k vehicle wrap for fingerprinting
8. interior lacking for a $100k vehicle purchase
   
   I am curious on the Model X owners. What issues do you have with that vehicle???
   
   I think back in 2019 I was a different guy and not 6 years later im starting to realize that perhaps I am a Model X guy and no longer a cybertruck guy. I've been having some concerns about the truck but am trying to understand if the X is the better way to go. I was totally sold on the price and range back in 2019 and now that its 6 years later, both have me slightly compromised.
   
   What concerns are with the X and does anyone else share my sentiments on the truck.

No car is perfect. Cybertruck is definitely for truck guys and enthusiasts who adore Tesla and Elon ?. None of the above mentioned reasons are mechanical issues luckily. Model X is a great vehicle if your utility is traveling around then you should go for it. I personally go off road, camping and do some trucking and cybertruck and Rivian are the best and we all chose Cybertruck.

 

[Agassi]

So the only reason driving with closed tonneau is for range? If i don't care of range for local driving, i can always leave it open like other pickups?

Bro do you think back camera work great in our seattle roads ? even if it doesn’t I’m not cancelling my FS.

 

[Guylouis]

There is an upgraded model X coming out imminently. It will include the 2024 efficiency package which will increase range quite a bit on both the dual motor and plaid. It will also include interior ambient lighting like in the 3. I’ve also heard of some other goodies like different seats for the plaid
I would certainly wait

 

[sammy5001]

If your number one concern is the price then throwing more money at it by trading in a 2-week-old car for another car isn’t going to solve the problem. Other than that, the MX should address all of your other concerns.

The MX has marginally better range in real-life but significantly better charging curve based on the current data, both of which only matter for road trips. So gotta think hard how much you want to prioritize road-trip performance vs every-day performance. With my MX I daily charge it to 60%.

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