First Cybertruck approved in Norway

[GuyV]

I would think Tesla could come up with something like this pretty quick. That is, build a pickup on an existing Model Y chassis.
I believe re-engineering and building a brand new from the ground-up midsize Cybertruck, while really cool, would take a much larger investment in time and money.

Not like THAT!

But conceivably something from the more utilitarian-looking juniper refresh might work since it already has Cyber nuances.

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[YDR37]

The challenge people are forgetting about is the "body on a frame" vs unibody. Tacoma has a frame. If you want to see what happens when you don't have a frame (and in the absence of a fundamentally new approach like CT), look at Honda Ridgeline or perhaps Chevy Avalanche.

Or how about the unibody Ford Maverick? Ford sold over 130,000 Mavericks in 2024, which is more than the entire EV pickup sector combined.

Apparently Ford has trademarked the term "Maverick Lightning", so they are at least thinking about it.

 

[GuyV]

Just my opinion, but the first manufacturer that comes up with an inexpensive compact or mid-sized electric pickup is going to have a hit on their hands. Surprised that no one has tried it yet.

Tesla and Rivian make full-sized EV pickups, but they could go smaller. Tesla could offer a Model Y with a bed, as above. Or maybe Rivian could offer an R2 with a bed. But no sign that either of these things is happening.

So probably legacy manufacturers will make the first move. Ford, GM, Honda, Toyota and Hyundai all know how to make compact/mid-sized EV SUVs -- and they also know how to make compact/mid-sized ICE pickups. I would bet that we see an EV Ranger, Maverick, Colorado/Canyon, Tacoma, Ridgeline, or Santa Cruz in the next few years.

I think the folks who buy fullsized pickups (F-150, Silverado, Ram) are a different demographic from the people who buy smaller pickups (Tacoma, Maverick, Santa Cruz). There are fewer customers in the latter category, but they are a lot more open to EVs.

The problem with a compact or midsize EV pickup is that the necessarily smaller battery will be weak for much of the utility uses such as hauling, towing and VTL that give pickups their advantage.

 

[cybercricket]

Or how about the unibody Ford Maverick? Ford sold over 130,000 Mavericks in 2024, which is more than the entire EV pickup sector combined.

Yeah, so then you have to start thinking about the implications... Maverick has a carrying capacity of 1500lb and towing 4000lb at about 3600lb dry. Model Y has the dry weight of about 4300lb.

So now you need to beef up the body to allow for the cargo and also take a significant aerodynamic penalty of a conventional pickup truck. What do you think such vehicle would weigh, what mileage it will have, and at what price ?

 

[YDR37]

Yeah, so then you have to start thinking about the implications... Maverick has a carrying capacity of 1500lb and towing 4000lb at about 3600lb dry. Model Y has the dry weight of about 4300lb.

So now you need to beef up the body to allow for the cargo and also take a significant aerodynamic penalty of a conventional pickup truck. What do you think such vehicle would weigh, what mileage it will have, and at what price ?

SUVs and pickups commonly share the same platform. If it's possible to build a mid-sized or compact electric SUV -- and it undeniably is -- then it's possible to build an electric pickup on the same platform.

Tesla could put a bed on the Model Y. In fact, one Tesla enthusiast has already put a bed on a Model 3. Looks like fun.

Granted, a "Model Y with a bed" may not have awesome payload or towing capacity, but the "small pickup demographic" is less concerned about such things than the "big pickup demographic". A current Model Y reportedly has payload of 1,239 pounds. Many 2024 Toyota Tacomas are rated at 1,200 pounds.

 

[cybercricket]

SUVs and pickups commonly share the same platform.

I believe that's an exception and not a rule. Most SUVs are unibody, and most pickups are "body on a frame." Notable exceptions would be Toyota Tacoma/FJ Cruiser, Ford Maverick / Ford Escape, Chevy Avalanche / Chevy Suburban.

 

[YDR37]

I believe that's an exception and not a rule. Most SUVs are unibody, and most pickups are "body on a frame." Notable exceptions would be Toyota Tacoma/FJ Cruiser, Ford Maverick / Ford Escape, Chevy Avalanche / Chevy Suburban.

Traditionally, passenger cars were unibody, and pickups were body-on-frame.

The distinction was blurred by SUVs, which originally were passenger vehicles built like trucks (i.e. body-on-frame). So SUVs and pickups routinely shared the same body-on-frame platform.

Today, most SUVs are "crossovers", which resemble traditional body-on-frame SUVs, but which are built unibody (like passenger cars). We even have "crossover" pickups, which have the pickup form factor, but which are built unibody. The old Chevy El Camino and Ford Ranchero were arguably "crossover" pickups, although nobody used the term then.

But the same platform is routinely used for pickups and SUVs, regardless of what that platform is. There are body-on-frame platforms shared by pickups and SUVs (like the Toyota Tacoma and 4Runner), unibody platforms shared by pickups and SUVs (like the Ford Maverick and Bronco Sport), and EV platforms shared by pickups and SUVs (like the Rivian R1T and R1S).

The point is simply that if you make an SUV on a given platform, you should be able to put a bed on it and market it as a pickup. It may or may not be a great pickup, but it should be doable.

 

[tingmo13]

I would think Tesla could come up with something like this pretty quick. That is, build a pickup on an existing Model Y chassis.
I believe re-engineering and building a brand new from the ground-up midsize Cybertruck, while really cool, would take a much larger investment in time and money.

if it looks like this or any other pick up-I'll pass.

 

[cybercricket]

if it looks like this or any other pick up-I'll pass.

You're concerned about the looks and not the function? Kind of like a lot of people approach CT

 

[The Duke]

if Tesla come out with midsize Cybertruck will do wonders for both domestic & international market-all these legalize or not in other countries would eliminate.

 

[SCTesla]

Just my opinion, but the first manufacturer that comes up with an inexpensive compact or mid-sized electric pickup is going to have a hit on their hands. Surprised that no one has tried it yet.

Tesla and Rivian make full-sized EV pickups, but they could go smaller. Tesla could offer a Model Y with a bed, as above. Or maybe Rivian could offer an R2 with a bed. But no sign that either of these things is happening.

So probably legacy manufacturers will make the first move. Ford, GM, Honda, Toyota and Hyundai all know how to make compact/mid-sized EV SUVs -- and they also know how to make compact/mid-sized ICE pickups. I would bet that we see an EV Ranger, Maverick, Colorado/Canyon, Tacoma, Ridgeline, or Santa Cruz in the next few years.

I think the folks who buy fullsized pickups (F-150, Silverado, Ram) are a different demographic from the people who buy smaller pickups (Tacoma, Maverick, Santa Cruz). There are fewer customers in the latter category, but they are a lot more open to EVs.

Is Rivian a full sized truck? The R1T is typically categorized as a mid-sized pickup.

 

[YDR37]

Is Rivian a full sized truck? The R1T is typically categorized as a mid-sized pickup.

To me, the R1T is borderline -- larger than a Tacoma, but smaller than an F-150. So it doesn't fit neatly into either category (and it doesn't have to, because it's only pickup that Rivian offers).

The R1T is more like a mid-sized truck in terms of length, width, and bed size. But it is more like a full-sized truck in terms of weight and (importantly) price. You could think of the R1T as either a "larger mid-sized pickup" or a "smaller full-sized pickup". I wouldn't argue either way.

The R1S is similarly borderline: it is larger than a typical "mid-sized" SUV, and has 3-row seating like a "full-sized" SUV. But the R1S is noticeably smaller than most other 3-row "full-size" SUVs, like a Chevy Tahoe. Again, you could think of the R1S as either a "larger mid-sized SUV" or as a "smaller full-sized SUV". Given the high price, it probably competes more with full-size SUVs.

The forthcoming R2 does fit nicely into the mid-sized SUV category. But it is clearly smaller than an R1S, and is supposed to be significantly cheaper as well. If Rivian made an inexpensive pickup based on the R2 design (basically an R2 with a bed), that would definitely fall into the mid-sized pickup category. But I doubt that they have any plans to do this.

 

[tingmo13]

You're concerned about the looks and not the function? Kind of like a lot of people approach CT

I watched/listened to Caresoft & Munro's Cybertruck tear down videos-you think you are very few exceptional people on CT know how??

 

[RVAC]

To me, the R1T is borderline -- larger than a Tacoma, but smaller than an F-150. So it doesn't fit neatly into either category (and it doesn't have to, because it's only pickup that Rivian offers).

The R1T is more like a mid-sized truck in terms of length, width, and bed size. But it is more like a full-sized truck in terms of weight and (importantly) price. You could think of the R1T as either a "larger mid-sized pickup" or a "smaller full-sized pickup". I wouldn't argue either way.

The R1S is similarly borderline: it is larger than a typical "mid-sized" SUV, and has 3-row seating like a "full-sized" SUV. But the R1S is noticeably smaller than most other 3-row "full-size" SUVs, like a Chevy Tahoe. Again, you could think of the R1S as either a "larger mid-sized SUV" or as a "smaller full-sized SUV". Given the high price, it probably competes more with full-size SUVs.

The forthcoming R2 does fit nicely into the mid-sized SUV category. But it is clearly smaller than an R1S, and is supposed to be significantly cheaper as well. If Rivian made an inexpensive pickup based on the R2 design (basically an R2 with a bed), that would definitely fall into the mid-sized pickup category. But I doubt that they have any plans to do this.

For all intents and purposes R1T is a mid-size, length wise it's only a few inches off a Tacoma. R2 would be a compact like the Maverick, not a mid-size.

It's the Cybertruck that actually sits somewhat in-between at ~9" shorter than your typical full-size and ~10" longer than a mid-size. One of the reasons we'll never see a smaller version.

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

Too big and angular and will never be approved in europe. Nonsense naysayers be nonsensing.

The first vehicle is imported and has undergone changes to be approved. Amber turn signals anyone. c'mon 'murica. is not that hard. Because of the weight of the truck it is approved as a three seater (for now).

Here's the article, not much info there but the game is on,

https://www.tv2.no/broom/overrasker-stort-likevel-godkjent-i-norge/17382792/

English translated version:

https://www-tv2-no.translate.goog/b...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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