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I just finished driving a 1,000 miles on FSD straight through because of a death in my family. I will start with the fact that I love to use FSD. I use it over 90% of the time. As we all know on the interstate with the speed limit is 75 miles an hour everyone is doing over 85. FST has a limit of 85 miles an hour. The problem occurs when you’re bunched up in traffic everybody doing 85 in FSD, if you increase the speed by even a couple miles, to get out of the bunched up traffic, FSD goes crazy and emergency disconnects at the worst time. You have blaring red steering wheel on the screen screaming at you, can be somewhat discombobulated and DISSCONNECTED STEERING is dangerous at that speed. All that needs to happen is a warning to slow down…you are exceeding FSD OPERATING RANGE. No dangerous disconnect steering disconnec t is needed.

I HAVE NOW BEEN BARRED FROM USING FSD FOR A WEEK FOR PUSHING THE LIMIT TOO MANY TIMES AND LOOKING AT THE MAP ON THE SCREEN AND LOOKING FOR THE CLOSEST CHARING STATION.
Hopefully @LDRHAWKE can learn, there is almost never a reason to use the accelerator pedal in FSD. If MadMax isn't "fast enough" to do what you need to do you need to learn to disengage.
Assuming you get out of FSD Jail A few more hundred miles should be all it takes for you to understand

I've similarly once or twice pressed the accelerator to pass at highway speeds - that works fine at modest speeds but get near 85mph and you WILL get a strike, and that warning alarm....but it's really not that damn hard to keep your foot off the juice pedal (or just disengage) but there is a *learing* curve
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Yet this is a truck. You a silly fella from Florida.

lol. i read through all the posts and this is the most sensible one. The CT is huge, heavy, and tough. Nothing like a motorcycle. If someone is tailgating me, they can go around. I'm not worried about not being seen while someone changes lanes blindly.

To the OP, stop worrying about others on the road and do your thing. Be aware of your surroundings, for sure, but it seems like you panic when other drivers might be getting impatient. Either let FSD do what it is designed to do within the safety constraints built in, or lightly tap the brake before slamming the throttle. You can even juke the wheel slightly to disengage and then go. You got one ding and somehow ended up getting 4 more. Were you staring at your map for eternity? The loud alarms and flashing screen you complain about, but apparently did not see the flashing blue to pay attention to the road when you were staring at the screen? One or the other.
 

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After driving 18 hours straight manly on FSD I learned a few things. I don’t think that some of you fully understand how FSD works….I didn’t.

If you set the FSD on STANDARD, it limits the speed to 65 miles an hour, you set it on HURRY it limits the speed to 75 miles an hour, if you set it on MAD MAX, it limits the speed 85 miles an hour.. You can set it on Mad Max and eventually you’ll reach the speed of 85 miles an hour even In a 60 mile an hour speed zone. TESLA’s not trying to control your speed.

This topic is not about TESLA controlling State speed. Regulations…..they are not. It is about an alarm that I believe dangerously blasts in your face when exceed the limit of FSD. It can just as easily be a less shocking dangerous blaring reminder on the screen , especially when cars have bunched up around you at 85 mph, that itself could cause an accident .

This topic has nothing to do with your exceeding State speed regulations. You are exceeding a Tesla FSD restriction and I believe the reminder can be done in the safer manner.
FYI, I drive on Standard a lot and it goes way over 65 when it wants to, in areas where the speed limit is 45. Tesla's speed profiles are total BS.

That said, I think it is more dangerous to receive a visual or audible alarm than it is to not receive any alarm. I cannot look over at the screen for long enough to know what it is complaining about If Tesla wants to be 'safe' then it should just tell me (in natural language) what the problem is. So I agree with you about the warning.

The problem with the original post is that it talked about 85 mph and that triggered responses. The reality is that Tesla's FSD gives the same warnings at any speed and they are just as dangerous, maybe even more so, on city streets.

I believe that I saw a video of NVIDEA's self driving platform where it was talking to the driver. I much prefer that and hope that Tesla will move toward that type of interaction.
 
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I think this group have a reading comprehension issue. How many times I do need to say this is not about me. Why does everyone continue to try to make this nasty and personal? I am simply bringing up an issue of an unnecessary loud alarm that I think is an unnecessary safety issue if it comes on at 85 mph in traffic. I understand FSD can be disabled if to avoid it happening. Your free to not agree.
 
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I think this group have a reading comprehension issue. How many times do need to say this is not about me. Why does everyone continue to try to make this nasty and personal? I am simply bringing up an issue of an unnecessary loud alarm that I think is a safety issue. Your free to not agree.
Just seems like you are new to the whole semi
autonomous driving thing. Then bringing the thought that it just has to be wrong because you said so.
 


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Thread meet brick wall! 🧱

Also so many misconceptions here on max speed by profiles.

After driving 18 hours straight manly on FSD I learned a few things. I don’t think that some of you fully understand how FSD works….I didn’t.

If you set the FSD on STANDARD, it limits the speed to 65 miles an hour, you set it on HURRY it limits the speed to 75 miles an hour, if you set it on MAD MAX, it limits the speed 85 miles an hour.. You can set it on Mad Max and eventually you’ll reach the speed of 85 miles an hour even In a 60 mile an hour speed zone. TESLA’s not trying to control your speed.

This topic is not about TESLA controlling State speed. Regulations…..they are not. It is about an alarm that I believe dangerously blasts in your face when exceed the limit of FSD. It can just as easily be a less shocking dangerous blaring reminder on the screen , especially when cars have bunched up around you at 85 mph, that itself could cause an accident .

This topic has nothing to do with your exceeding State speed regulations. You are exceeding a Tesla FSD restriction and I believe the reminder can be done in the safer manner.
 

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FYI, I drive on Standard a lot and it goes way over 65 when it wants to, in areas where the speed limit is 45. Tesla's speed profiles are total BS.

That said, I think it is more dangerous to receive a visual or audible alarm than it is to not receive any alarm. I cannot look over at the screen for long enough to know what it is complaining about If Tesla wants to be 'safe' then it should just tell me (in natural language) what the problem is. So I agree with you about the warning.

The problem with the original post is that it talked about 85 mph and that triggered responses. The reality is that Tesla's FSD gives the same warnings at any speed and they are just as dangerous, maybe even more so, on city streets.

I believe that I saw a video of NVIDEA's self driving platform where it was talking to the driver. I much prefer that and hope that Tesla will move toward that type of interaction.
Oh NO!!! I just get used to self driving cars and now I may have to put up with a chatty car. I'm out if that happens.
 

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I think this group have a reading comprehension issue. How many times I do need to say this is not about me. Why does everyone continue to try to make this nasty and personal? I am simply bringing up an issue of an unnecessary loud alarm that I think is an unnecessary safety issue if it comes on at 85 mph in traffic. I understand FSD can be disabled if to avoid it happening. Your free to not agree.
All the work I have put in over the years showing friends, family members, and complete strangers the modern marvel of FSD, and I bet you are single handedly putting us in the red with God-only-knows how much FUD you have been spreading to people who have never used the tech.

Boomers in particular are mostly technology averse, but this one is really top-tier clowery.

I don't know how else to phrase this, but the blaring alarm you experienced [so many times you eventually got locked] out is evidently extremely necessary so that people who lack enough common sense can get immediate critical feedback to not do what you are doing.
 


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I’m Probably missing the OPs point, but what is wrong with letting FSD make your trip less stressful and safe. Let them that want to violate the law and drive at unsafe speeds and have the stress of weaving in and out driving at unsafe speeds Don’t accommodate them by sacrificing your safety and stress. you paid for the privilege of FSD.
 
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The OP is very entertaining and I would like to see him post more often. Not many can trigger his ultra high level of engagement.

The OP is very entertaining and I would like to see him post more often. Not many can trigger his ultra high level of engagement.
If you think my comments on an unsafe alarm was fun…..wait till I comment on how often Tesla has you stopping to recharge to maximize charging efficiency during a 1,000 mile trip….A Cyber Truck battery size that gives you 320 miles of range is near meaningless.
 

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If you think my comments on an unsafe alarm was fun…..wait till I comment on how often Tesla has you stopping to recharge to maximize charging efficiency during a 1,000 mile trip….A Cyber Truck battery size that gives you 320 miles of range is near meaningless.
My multiple round trips from Nebraska to Austin were requiring stops at about 3 hours for 25 minutes on average. Which for us worked out perfectly, time enough to stretch your legs and get there without tiring out.
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