Powershare Price Quote: $8,146 Dollars

[Woodrick]

I live on Long Island NY and my quote is great. Already accepted it just waiting for my VIN to get my equipment.
I have 2 gen 3 chargers that one might need swapping out for the UWC that’s not on the quote but should t be too much to swap out since all the wiring is already there.
I’m also doing a full house backup and I have a generator lockout already for my existing generator.
I have solar that they can’t include in the setup and I want a power wall but was told it wouldn’t work for me right now. So he will keep the setup simple so when the power wall can be added he will be already for that.
I was told because I configured my truck 6/17 I might not be qualify for the $4k install credit. Yes I have the CB on order. Here’s hoping they change their mind because if I get that $4k I would add the power wall and just pay what ever the difference is.

This appears to be for a relatively small location, probably with a 100A Service panel. Specific loads are not required to be moved.

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[FitNess]

I read it multiple times and didn't see the Powerwall 3. Is it on another page?

Instead of listing and pricing it as an item they placed the Powerwall 3 in the Labor section.. Poor invoicing on their part led to a strong emotional reaction on my part ?

 

[smcnaughton829]

This appears to be for a relatively small location, probably with a 100A Service panel. Specific loads are not required to be moved.

It’s a 200 amp service.

 

[smcnaughton829]

It really helped to get other eyes on my quote. I missed how they added a Powerwall 3 in the tiny print ?

After some thought, I think I do want that and 10k out the door for it all seems fair.

Adding a Powerwall makes a power outage transfer milliseconds instead of minutes if I understand correctly. Plus a multi day outage scenario means I can unplug and drive till I find a Super Charger that works while the Powerwall keeps the home running.

I accepted the quote and am in a scheduling queue..

My guy said I can’t add the power wall gen 3 because it doesn’t work with the power share right now.
Please someone with some more knowledge then me help me understand why my guy isn’t getting me a powerwall when I specifically asked for it.
Yes I have a generator backup and solar. I need the power wall!

 

[carsly]

How does 50 amp generator inlet work. I assume it would not support the whole house, do you have to assign certain circuits

Powershare gateway won't support a 200amp continuous draw and neither will the truck so options are typically to run a sub-panel (which is effectively what you do with Powershare) or in my case as it's just a few times a year I'd just not use my electric dryer or electric range and maybe only use 1 of 2 AC's if needed. I have a gas furnace for most of the house in winter so that's really just running the fan which isn't much power. If it comes to it, I'd just flip off the unnecessary breakers. Again, more manual but it doesn't happen often so if it happens, and if I need to, it's easy enough to flip breakers.

Certainly worth my time for $7,500 as it only takes a few minutes at most. Figure over 10-12 years which might be the life of the Powershare equipment and truck battery it will take me 2 hours of time. Let's round up to 5 hours over 10 years. So for $7,500 saved today I'm basically paying myself a tax-free $1,500/hr plus the interest I'll earn on that money over the next decade. Smells like a nice investment/savings opportunity!

 

[carsly]

It’s a 200 amp service.

something ain't right then. You should be moving some priority loads to the Powershare gateway as it can't support 200amps of draw.

 

[Cold.Truth]

We usually get an outage couple times a year for maybe a couple hours. I really wanted to have powershare for those moments, but now i am not sure its worth it

That’s my train of thought also. My quotes were $5000 and $5700 from two contractors. Would I pay $5000+ to avoid a 1-hour blackout? Nope. (and here in ABQ, I have 1-2 minutes a year at most so even less ROI) - we all have different risk tolerances and tech affinities. Mine are not high enough in either category to justify the spend.

 

[jimnycricket65]

I have CB beast and was waiting for poweshare.
I live in San Jose area and finally was assigned Installer company. Today I recieved their quote for a total of 8,146 dollars. I have 4,000 credit so final pay is $4,146. This looks ridiculously expensive. My panel is in the back of the house an ill have park the truck in the driveway since I don't have a garage.
Looking for some advice, I know being in the bay area I should expect to pay more than average but this looks extreme.

I knew I would get an offer I must refuse so I didn't even get a quote. I am not just waiting for $2500 voucher but I am not in a rush since there isn't much to buy

 

[StainlessVoyager]

Powershare gateway won't support a 200amp continuous draw and neither will the truck so options are typically to run a sub-panel (which is effectively what you do with Powershare) or in my case as it's just a few times a year I'd just not use my electric dryer or electric range and maybe only use 1 of 2 AC's if needed. I have a gas furnace for most of the house in winter so that's really just running the fan which isn't much power. If it comes to it, I'd just flip off the unnecessary breakers. Again, more manual but it doesn't happen often so if it happens, and if I need to, it's easy enough to flip breakers.

Certainly worth my time for $7,500 as it only takes a few minutes at most. Figure over 10-12 years which might be the life of the Powershare equipment and truck battery it will take me 2 hours of time. Let's round up to 5 hours over 10 years. So for $7,500 saved today I'm basically paying myself a tax-free $1,500/hr plus the interest I'll earn on that money over the next decade. Smells like a nice investment/savings opportunity!

I agree it will be only on rare occasions when Ill need power backup.
So basically you forgo the whole Tesla setup, instead get a generator inlet set up and then you can use 50amp power output from the truck bed. The only real downside is plugging it in when needed and maybe wear on the inlet with many uses

 

[carsly]

I agree it will be only on rare occasions when Ill need power backup.
So basically you forgo the whole Tesla setup, instead get a generator inlet set up and then you can use 50amp power output from the truck bed. The only real downside is plugging it in when needed and maybe wear on the inlet with many uses

To be clear, I’d prefer to run Powershare with Tesla’s estimated install costs. But at what I’m being quoted. with only one eligible installer, it’s nonsensical to pay that much.

If I plug in 20-30 times at most over 10 years I don’t see the generator inlet wearing out. Slightly inconvenient but much cheaper.

 

[smcnaughton829]

something ain't right then. You should be moving some priority loads to the Powershare gateway as it can't support 200amps of draw.

All my house appliances run on gas. I have 2 mini splits running 7 heads. One is on a dual 50 amp breaker and the other is a dual 30 amp breaker. That is the extent of my dual breakers except for the one going to my gen 3 chargers.
With everything running in my house except for the AC units I don’t pull over 2000 watts (2 kWh), the truck can power 11 kWh continuously.
No there is nothing wrong with the setup for the power share. They are doing the full house backup expect for the 2 AC units.
Now as for the power wall. I am still trying to figure out how some people have it and why I am being told I can’t have it with my setup?
The electrician also said my generator will still power my house without any thing I need to do to the power share when it kicks in. Guessing it’s wired in a way that once it’s on and running the power share will turn off.
But still why is he saying that the power share and the power wall are not compatible?

 

[Cyberus]

Thanks for sharing. Keep us posted if you go this route.
I’m also interested in this setup.

I was quoted $6,600+ in NJ for a single family home with one 200amp panel and a 20 foot run. After I was done laughing, which took a while, I called back the same electrician who provided the quote and asked about a 50 amp generator inlet with a lockout. Quote for that? $1,200.

I can plug in a cable from the 240v out in the bed to the generator inlet, no adapters or anything needed, and feed 40 amps from the truck to my panel. No, it's not automatic, but I'm saving $5,400.

Oh wait, but that's not all!

I can also use my $2,500 voucher on other Tesla-gear (waiting on offroad light bar, don't hate me). So my real savings are $7,900 less a couple hundred dollars for the cable. Call it $7,500 saved for effectively the same functionality.

Qmerit is a horrendous, profiteering, joke.

 

[carsly]

Thanks for sharing. Keep us posted if you go this route.
I’m also interested in this setup.

install 8/12, will report back

 

[CyberGus]

Yeah, but for that price you get this sweet drawing

 

[CyberGus]

Powershare gateway won't support a 200amp continuous draw

A 200A service does not mean you’re drawing 200A. I couldn’t pull that much if I turned on every light in the house, ran both the heat and A/C, and charged the truck all at the same time!

My typical max draw is ~16kW while charging, about a quarter of that when not charging but running the A/C.

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