QMerit can suck it. 50 amp generator inlet install complete at 20% the cost.

[Cybergirl]

I did the same, even after what I thought was a reasonable quote for a Powershare install ($3160). What was most disappointing about Powershare was that while connected to the Powershare gateway, the Cybertruck battery can't be charged from my solar panels while the grid is down. To capture any excess solar output I'd have to disconnect the CT from the UWC, and plug in a mobile charger. The convenience advantages of Powershare largely disappear in my situation. The twist-lock generator inlet + manual grid interlock alternative was a low cost alternative for me. The maximum power output from the CT's 14-50 outlet to the house is 9600W (40A x 240V) which 's more than enough for my backup needs. All this happened before the $2500 voucher offer which made my decision even more advantageous.

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[igs]

Can your regular NEMA 14-50 outlet be used as an inlet? (with a lockout switch at the main panel) That way you don't need to install an additional circuit for the inlet.

 

[JPfromTCE]

I'm sitting in the boat of 400 amp service that won't allow powershare. I am waiting for a powerwall that will allow me to use the truck as intended with instant swap. This post has me reconsidering that.

I am not a PowerShare installer nor do I contract with tesla

however I am an owner of an electrical contracting business.

When dealing with 400A services, what we do with backup power is designate (1) 200A panel as the backup panel and place the transfer switch in front of that panel from the meter. Also coming from the meter is a standard service rated disconnect switch to the non backup panel.

In a situation where designating a backup panel simply won’t work and the entire service must be available to be backed up, we simply install (2) transfer switches off the meter or single 400 depending on customer’s situation.

I have not looked too far into powershare (until Tesla approves me as a vendor i see no point), but i imagine you can split your 400A service with a designated backup panel. PowerShare does appear to operate off a similar relay that opens and closes based on the presence of utility power.

 

[carsly]

Can your regular NEMA 14-50 outlet be used as an inlet? (with a lockout switch at the main panel) That way you don't need to install an additional circuit for the inlet.

that's a good question. Never thought of it.

 

[mongo]

that's a good question. Never thought of it.

Wouldn’t that require a suicide (dual plug ended) cord?
Lockout at [panel should] oanelshoukd prevent use as both inlet and outlet to prevent backfeeding the grid.

 

[drewman2024]

that's a good question. Never thought of it.

Yep, suicide plug. Learned that when I researched my generator solution.

 

[carsly]

Yep, suicide plug. Learned that when I researched my generator solution.

yeahhhh....will skip that route and go with the locked inlet.

 

[OldDirtyRobot]

Does this void the warranty?

 

[carsly]

Does this void the warranty?

Depends on how you use it. If you're using the Cybertruck in place of Powerwalls and it's permanently parked and tethered it would appear to violate the warranty terms.

Using the truck primarily as a means of transportation and only occasionally outputting power from the bed outlets for short-term usage seems to be using the product as designed. No different than using the truck as a power source on a job site, and arguably far less taxing as maybe it gets used for supplying power once or twice a year at most in this backup scenario so definitely not "permanent, stationary or long-term".

 

[Jerrytes2023!]

Anyone here able to answer these questions about Power Share?

Waiting for my VIN for the foundation CB.

Does the Powershare equipment get shipped to you or Qmerit?

Does a Universal wall connector come with the CB or with the Powershare equipment; for home charging the CB?

What happens to the Powershare equipment if you do not use it?
Is that where the $2500 voucher is supposed to come from?

Since I do not have my foundation CB yet, have a lot of questions about the Powershare (like you not going to use it) but had to pay for it.

When and how do I get a wall connector for charging at home?

Can you help? Thanks

 

[carsly]

Anyone here able to answer these questions about Power Share?

Waiting for my VIN for the foundation CB.

Does the Powershare equipment get shipped to you or Qmerit?

Does a Universal wall connector come with the CB or with the Powershare equipment; for home charging the CB?

What happens to the Powershare equipment if you do not use it?
Is that where the $2500 voucher is supposed to come from?

Since I do not have my foundation CB yet, have a lot of questions about the Powershare (like you not going to use it) but had to pay for it.

When and how do I get a wall connector for charging at home?

Can you help? Thanks

Simplest answer is you get a voucher of $2,500 to use in the Tesla Shop for whatever you want after you take delivery of your Foundation Series Cybertruck.

If you want to order Powershare with the voucher, go for it, but you need an approved quote from Qmerit before Tesla will ship the equipment. Where they ship it, I don't know (cancelled my order).

The truck comes with a bi-directional mobile connector meaning you can charge the truck with it off of a NEMA 14-50 outlet (or others with adapters) AND you can use the same mobile charger to charge another Tesla from the 240v outlet in your truck bed should you choose to do so.

If you want a Tesla wall connector (regular or universal) you'll need to purchase one from the Tesla Shop (or Amazon, Best Buy, etc.). Whether you get the regular wall connector or universal wall connector is up to you. Yes, you can use your single-use voucher for this purchase if you have not ordered the Powershare equipment with it. Note the Tesla wall connectors are hardwired only. You can really use any EVSE if you already own one, the truck also comes with a J1772 adapter.

 

[carsly]

Thanks, this really helps!

Do not want a Powershare here either. Will get the voucher then.
Do not have any Tesla’s yet.
Thought had to have a wall unit to charge the Beast?
Already have the NEMA 14-50 in my new house.
I do not need a Tesla wall connector can just use 240 NEMA 14-50 house outlet to 240 truck bidirectional port right?

No, you do not need a permanently installed EVSE. At our beach house I have a NEMA 14-50 and mounted a Tesla mobile charger that can plug into the outlet, it's always there - no plugging and unplugging. The rub is output is capped at 32 amps, but that's fine for me.

You can use the included mobile charger to plug into your NEMA 14-50 and then the other end goes into your NACS charging port.

If you typically drive a few hundred miles a day or have little time to charge in between longer trips then a permanently hardwired EVSE that can output 48 amps at 240v may make more sense. At home I have a Tesla wall charger, but again just set to output 32 amps and that's plenty for my needs. I prefer the flexibility of a NEMA 14-50 outlet over hardwired because if the EVSE dies or has issues it's super-easy to unplug it, plug in the Tesla mobile charger, and not miss a beat. The rub is you're generally safer charging at lower amperage as not all NEMA 14-50 outlets and associated wiring are created equal.

 

[Jerrytes2023!]

No, you do not need a permanently installed EVSE. At our beach house I have a NEMA 14-50 and mounted a Tesla mobile charger that can plug into the outlet, it's always there - no plugging and unplugging. The rub is output is capped at 32 amps, but that's fine for me.

You can use the included mobile charger to plug into your NEMA 14-50 and then the other end goes into your NACS charging port.

If you typically drive a few hundred miles a day or have little time to charge in between longer trips then a permanently hardwired EVSE that can output 48 amps at 240v may make more sense. At home I have a Tesla wall charger, but again just set to output 32 amps and that's plenty for my needs. I prefer the flexibility of a NEMA 14-50 outlet over hardwired because if the EVSE dies or has issues it's super-easy to unplug it, plug in the Tesla mobile charger, and not miss a beat. The rub is you're generally safer charging at lower amperage as not all NEMA 14-50 outlets and associated wiring are created equal.

That takes care of charging at home.
Does the included mobile charger plug work at public chargers?
Didn't know a mobile charger came with CB.
First time using a Tesla or any EV.

 

[carsly]

That takes care of charging at home.
Does the included mobile charger plug work at public chargers?
Didn't know a mobile charger came with CB.
First time using a Tesla or any EV.

public chargers have their own plugs in the US. Unlike Europe, you do not need to bring your own cable.

Tesla Superchargers have built in plugs to work seamlessly with your Cybertruck. Unplug from the stall by pressing the button to release the handle. That opens the charge port on your truck and plug in. Charging will begin in a few seconds.

Other public fast chargers using the CCS standard will require a Tesla adapter. While Tesla has a CCS to NACS adapter, the neck is not long enough to clear the Cybertruck bumper and Tesla's owners manual now notes that no third-party adapters are supported or should be used. So at this time you can not use a CCS charging station with your truck for Level 3/fast charging.

However, you will also find an abundance of level 2 (slower charging) public chargers from companies like Chargepoint. You can charge at these stations using the included Tesla J1772 adapter, I charged at one yesterday. You will need to create an account with each provider, typically via their app, as using credit cards at the stations themselves is pretty hit and miss (usually miss).

 

[Jerrytes2023!]

public chargers have their own plugs in the US. Unlike Europe, you do not need to bring your own cable.

Tesla Superchargers have built in plugs to work seamlessly with your Cybertruck. Unplug from the stall by pressing the button to release the handle. That opens the charge port on your truck and plug in. Charging will begin in a few seconds.

Other public fast chargers using the CCS standard will require a Tesla adapter. While Tesla has a CCS to NACS adapter, the neck is not long enough to clear the Cybertruck bumper and Tesla's owners manual now notes that no third-party adapters are supported or should be used. So at this time you can not use a CCS charging station with your truck for Level 3/fast charging.

However, you will also find an abundance of level 2 (slower charging) public chargers from companies like Chargepoint. You can charge at these stations using the included Tesla J1772 adapter, I charged at one yesterday. You will need to create an account with each provider, typically via their app, as using credit cards at the stations themselves is pretty hit and miss (usually miss).
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First real English I heard to summarize the whole charging tech.
Thanks really helped.

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