Why shouldn't I Cancel My CT order and purchase the Chevy EV?

[SCTesla]

? agree with you. Funny how all these you tubers are raving about it, but they are probably being paid by chevy tbh

People do have different opinions.

I think it's a few things;
1. They get fully decked out RST or 4WT, not the stripped base model 3WT that rental companies get.
2. There are some really cool features like the midgate/bed that are exclusive to that truck for now, plus some features praised in other vehicles like 4 wheel steering and a massive funk.
3. The most praised aspect is the range and charging speed. That's really, IMO, the only benefit of the truck. It's really the only EV truck that can tow with range (ok) compared to the rest of the competition. Plus people like Out of Spec nerd out with the crazy charging speed.

I wouldn't get one and obviously didn't, but it's dumb to shit on other choices because you chose the competition. They all have pros and cons.

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[VAF84]

Really?

As another poster on here said:


So you need to charge 57% more kWh to get the same number of miles as the CT. That's a HUGE charging penalty. Both in terms of time sitting at the charger, and cost of dollars spent at the charger.

Efficiency is *everything* in an EV. Tesla lives by this rule. GM.....doesn't seem to care.

I disagree. Efficiency doesn't have to be "everything" in a EV truck. Even the most inefficient EV truck is nearly five times more so than the ICE equivalent. I can drive my EV truck like a race car and at least get the equivalent of 40mpg compared to 14mpg in a pickup.

My 2 cents - it’s not just about EPA. It’s the ease of charging that’s equally or probably more important. I have seen my fair shares of friends complaining about how non-Tesla charging network sucks. What’s the point of having 400+ miles of charging when you can’t charge easily or have to charge for an hour in between the stops?

Tesla opening even the limited options has been a game changer. The network opened four months after my LER purchase. It immediately made it more palatable. I've got my adapter and primarily charge art Tesla. They're accessible where you need them the most. Would love full access, but anything helps.

This is also what I'm hearing from big names on youtube about the Silverado. I loved my old Silverado and I have a lot of love for Chevy/GM, but it's hard to want to buy their EVs (truck or otherwise) when it's just so painful to get them charged in a reasonable time. And it's really no fault of the truck itself! Just very spotty charging networks; they're everywhere, but they rarely work well and often not at all--no support either.

I don't understand that comment about painful charging. My LER has the same efficiency if not worse than the RST. My lifetime is 1.7 mi/kwh. Maybe topping off takes forever at home on the Silverado, but at home you'd be using at most 50% of the battery. So apples to apples, your time to charge doesn't change. Added benefit that at a 350kw station you get double range in the same amount of time.

I honestly have not encountered a terrible charging experience after the learning curve. At least when traveling on interstates. There's probably a case to be made for the inner city plugs or regional areas of the US. I relied EA from Central Texas to Indiana and every single one at the Walmart was functional last December.

Ultimately, the Chevy is a blunt instrument that meets the needs of a segment of population that requires long range due to lots of highway driving, cold weather regions, working away from home in non-urban areas, and towing. Or for families that road trip a lot. That's it. There is zero competition for this use case. For solo driving, normal commuting and occasional trips, the other options are probably better.

For me I'd love the CT, however I can't ignore the range and spacious cabin of GM's twins for our family of 5; plus the occasional long distance tow.

 

[ogdobber]

People do have different opinions.

I think it's a few things;
1. They get fully decked out RST or 4WT, not the stripped base model 3WT that rental companies get.
2. There are some really cool features like the midgate/bed that are exclusive to that truck for now, plus some features praised in other vehicles like 4 wheel steering and a massive funk.
3. The most praised aspect is the range and charging speed. That's really, IMO, the only benefit of the truck. It's really the only EV truck that can tow with range (ok) compared to the rest of the competition. Plus people like Out of Spec nerd out with the crazy charging speed.

I wouldn't get one and obviously didn't, but it's dumb to shit on other choices because you chose the competition. They all have pros and cons.

Im just agreeing with what mitochondria said. But its ok to shit on bad choices.
midgate? If that was so good why did it die with the avalanche?
Charging speeds? Yeah you will get 350 on electrify America if and when the station is working.
And then chevys software is somehow worse than fords AND they take away car play which covers up how bad it is
If i had to, i’d buy the 3wt because its sets your expectations low, those higher trims will be a disappointment

 

[SCTesla]

Im just agreeing with what mitochondria said. But its ok to shit on bad choices.
midgate? If that was so good why did it die with the avalanche?
Charging speeds? Yeah you will get 350 on electrify America if and when the station is working.
And then chevys software is somehow worse than fords AND they take away car play which covers up how bad it is
If i had to, i’d buy the 3wt because its sets your expectations low, those higher trims will be a disappointment

The midgate was maybe the 2nd most coveted potential feature of the CT. People want it, it's just difficult/expensive to do well and keep the cabin insulated and watertight.

Completely agree with the software, but it's a different tool. It's not a bad choice if someone wants to tow their boat further than 100 miles per charge. Just like Diesels vs gas trucks, they fill a need.

 

[greggertruck]

You only shouldn't if you want it to work in a year. I'm not joking. Chevrolet has had the patchiest reliability on their EVs.

You know what? Buy it anyway. I look forward to sharing the grief, or the victory on Twitter.

 

[txtravwill]

It's nice overall for a work truck, range is awesome, etc. Couple things is it is CCS which is no biggy for now these days, maybe future more. If you really want V2H, be aware that their estimate for me to install the GM system was about $14,000+; their gateway, dark start battery, etc. and they don't integrate with existing Tesla systems right now, etc. Not sure if that is a big, but great use of that 200kwH battery.

 

[tmeyer3]

I don't understand that comment about painful charging. My LER has the same efficiency if not worse than the RST. My lifetime is 1.7 mi/kwh. Maybe topping off takes forever at home on the Silverado, but at home you'd be using at most 50% of the battery. So apples to apples, your time to charge doesn't change. Added benefit that at a 350kw station you get double range in the same amount of time.

I was only referring to dc fast charging for trips, etc. Around my area is Electrify America and evGo. I was just at the evgo one last weekend. Of the 6 fast chargers, only 1 was working. I tried them all until I got one to actually work, took me about 30min just to get one working and paid for. In that time I would have been nearly done at a Telsa Supercharger. This is not a uncommon experience with dc fast charging outside of Tesla.

 

[OldDirtyRobot]

Don’t blame the guy down the street for buying the CT fully loaded when you won’t / can’t. If you are waiting for the CT price to drop and are impatient, just buy the Silverado.

 

[rudedawg78]

The local Chevy dealer has had four Silverado EV WT on the lot for two months. Originally priced at $82k. Now discount and tax credit bring them down to $68,800. 200kw battery with over 400mile tested range and 10k tow. Zero to Sixty in 5.5 sec. larger front storage. Spare tire. Center dash display. 4WD Full Independent suspension on Eight lug rims and floating axles.

Downside -No four wheel steering by wire, Stainless, FSD, Cast unibody frame or adjustable air suspension.

I am a day one reserve and sick of waiting nearly five years while the guy down the street was dumb enough to cough up and extra 20k to jump ahead in line.

What am I missing?

Is that a Chevy Avalanche?

 

[Tony Roe]

So I had a 3 motor Cybertruck ordered since Feb 2021. But when the Jacked the price up to $100K for a 2 motor AWD I cancelled my order. Way, Way, Way over my budget !!!!! I believe in TESLA, I even bought stock to try to build up a Down Payment.
Long story short, I canceled my reservation, they priced me right OUT !!! BUT as for the Chev EV Truck, Screw GM I have been a GM guy for 50 years. My last two GMC Truck ROTTED like Swiss CHEESE !!!!! I mean the "FRAMES" and GM Said Bite the Big One !!!! With only 45K miles on it with very limited snow driving. At least Toyota replaced truck frames even 15 years later. SOOOOO I would NEVER BUY ANY GM Product AGAIN !!!! And very disappointed having to cancel my CT Order !!!!

Good Luck !!!!

T

 

[Cybertruck26]

Because it's a Chevy?!?!?!

Seriously - do what works best for your scenario and use cases.

You're right... Silly me! I MEANT to say "Bc it's a GM product (ie- Union Made).

 

[BoiseCT]

The local Chevy dealer has had four Silverado EV WT on the lot for two months. Originally priced at $82k. Now discount and tax credit bring them down to $68,800. 200kw battery with over 400mile tested range and 10k tow. Zero to Sixty in 5.5 sec. larger front storage. Spare tire. Center dash display. 4WD Full Independent suspension on Eight lug rims and floating axles.

Downside -No four wheel steering by wire, Stainless, FSD, Cast unibody frame or adjustable air suspension.

I am a day one reserve and sick of waiting nearly five years while the guy down the street was dumb enough to cough up and extra 20k to jump ahead in line.

What am I missing?

If you tow a lot the Silverado is a good truck. However, keep in mind (in addition to what you've said):
1)The CT achieves 80% the range on 60% of the battery, so the efficiency of the CT is much better. This translates to lower costs of charging.
2) The Fast charging speeds on the SIlverado will only be available at certain stations, so that may result in much longer average charging times for you to get a given range vs the ct.
3) When AP or FSD is available on the CT, it will be better than what the GM has.
4) Platform: I have questions about the longterm viability of the GM platform for this truck. The battery alone is costing them at least $30K and I doubt they ever plan for this model to be anything but a test platform sold at a loss. No idea what this means for long term support, but could be fine?
4) Drivability: Hard to quantify but extremely present. If you can drive both I recommend it. If you are anywhere near me, I'd be happy to let you drive my CT.

I'm super glad to see the Silverado hit the scene, too. If I didn't already have my CT I'd give it a hard look.

 

[Rocwurst]

This spec comparison chart of the CT versus the Silverado (and all the other EV competitors might be helpful for you.

 

[Jason Carlisle]

What didn’t you like about Hummer EV specifically?

I had mine for less than a week and traded it in. The software is horrendous on all of these legacy automakers. I've owned the Lightning, Hummer EV, and most recently the Silverado EV. I thought I would be able to look past the clunky early 2000s software but after experiencing several Tesla's, it's impossible to go back.

Just noticing little things like the CONSTANT annoying hum when the car is on and even just siting still in drive. People say this can be fixed with a software update but "can" is different from "will". That sound alone was a dealbreaker to take a bath in it and trade it in. I hope this info can save someone thousands because I didn't read about that anywhere online or see it in the several YouTube videos I watched on the Silverado. It is absolutely nails on a chalkboard can't-tune-it-out sound.

There's also the fact that you can't adjust the amperage up and down while charging the Silverado. For most city dwellers this probably is a moot point but for people that road trip or rural people like myself, it is annoying to have to lug around another mobile charger that has built in ability to lower the amperage.

From all the many EV vehicles I've driven, Rivian is the only competitor currently to Tesla.

 

[VAF84]

You're right... Silly me! I MEANT to say "Bc it's a GM product (ie- Union Made).

Honestly, that’s an outsized reason (union made) that I wish the CT would fit my needs better than the GM. Maybe we’ll get some more info on the range extender before I end up pulling the trigger.

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