CCS Cybertruck Adapter

[sefar]

EA is ass rapeage. I have seen them at .52/kwh.

True, but if you are out of watts in an area with no SC, it beats walking. Coming from a diesel truck, it is about a push.

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[M0unt41nm4n]

True, but if you are out of watts in an area with no SC, it beats walking. Coming from a diesel truck, it is about a push.

Agreed.

 

[mongo]

Yeah, $0.52 / kWh is worse $/mile than a crossover SUV.
If gas is $3.64/gallon that's 7 kWh. 385 Wh/mile = 18 MPG cost equivalent.

 

[T-Launch]

So I been looking for a CCS adapter for the Cybertruck and Lectron's support is claiming that their CCS adapter works on the cybertruck. Has anyone tested this or confirmed that it works? Also does anyone know of a confirmed CCS adapter that you can buy today that works on the cybertruck?

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lec...cs-chargers-black?_pos=1&_sid=5aeb7046b&_ss=r

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[T-Launch]

Using one of the 3rd party 250kW CCS adapters that claim to support Cybertruck, even though the official adapter does not.

Eg:
https://www.amazon.com/Smartsafe-Adapter-Charging-Compatible-Cybetruck/dp/B0CLLNC1YV/

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[mongo]

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How does it prevent chaege currents greater than the 300A limit?
At its listed 500V DC maximum, that's only 150kW whereas Cybertruck will pull >250kW and is more like 400V so 600 Amps

 

[TeslaFANa]

How does it prevent chaege currents greater than the 300A limit?
At its listed 500V DC maximum, that's only 150kW whereas Cybertruck will pull >250kW and is more like 400V so 600 Amps

That's exactly the math I was doing, just want to make was I got that right, 150 KW correct? Better than nothing I guess.

 

[Crissa]

Yeah, $0.52 / kWh is worse $/mile than a crossover SUV.
If gas is $3.64/gallon that's 7 kWh. 385 Wh/mile = 18 MPG cost equivalent.

A crossover SUV is smaller than a Cybertruck.

Also, 52¢ kWh * 0.385 kWh = 20.02¢ per mile; vs $3.64 gal / 18 mpg = 20.22¢ per mile plus oil & engine maintenance, which the Cybertruck does not use.

How does it prevent chaege currents greater than the 300A limit?
At its listed 500V DC maximum, that's only 150kW whereas Cybertruck will pull >250kW and is more like 400V so 600 Amps

That's exactly the math I was doing, just want to make was I got that right, 150 KW correct? Better than nothing I guess.

Ratings are at constant power, not power on a curve over time. So ratings are more an average that can be exceeded for short use. (Which is why Tesla stations exceed their nameplate limits).

-Crissa

 

[mongo]

A crossover SUV is smaller than a Cybertruck.

Also, 52¢ kWh * 0.385 kWh = 20.02¢ per mile; vs $3.64 gal / 18 mpg = 20.22¢ per mile plus oil & engine maintenance, which the Cybertruck does not use.

It was a reference point, our Explorer Sport is rated at 16/22 and is what we were using before Cybertruck.
2024 Expedition is 17/23
Oil change is $50 with synthetic every 5,000 miles or so, that adds $0.01/mile.
Cybertruck itself is 2x the price of the Explorer if we want to get into all-in cost per mile.

Ratings are at constant power, not power on a curve over time. So ratings are more an average that can be exceeded for short use. (Which is why Tesla stations exceed their nameplate limits).

Limits are limits. Tesla monitors the contact temperature which is the constraining factor.

What is the thermal time constant of the adapter when dealing with 4x the connector and conductor self heating?

How does it prevent use at 800V?

 

[Crissa]

Oil change is $50 with synthetic every 5,000 miles or so, that adds $0.01/mile.

Plus maintenance.

So the oil is 1¢ a mile. What's the air filter? Timing? Coolant? Transmission?

All those 1¢ a miles add up.

Cybertruck itself is 2x the price of the Explorer if we want to get into all-in cost per mile.

Your choice to buy the truck that has more volume and cargo capacity and had an upsell of 'get the truck this year'. Not involved in the per mile costs you're not including in your calculation.

-Crissa

 

[mongo]

Plus maintenance.

So the oil is 1¢ a mile. What's the air filter? Timing? Coolant? Transmission?

All those 1¢ a miles add up.


Your choice to buy the truck that has more volume and cargo capacity and had an upsell of 'get the truck this year'. Not involved in the per mile costs you're not including in your calculation.

-Crissa

I don't get what the issue is here. I was agreeing with post #54 and showing that $0.52 per kWh ruins the economics of EV charging vs gasoline, not trying to do a full EV vs ICE comparison.

But let's go with Ford recommendations:
Oil change; 7,500 miles $50: $0.007 per mile
Brake fluid: 3 years (36k) @ $26: $0.0007
Cabin air filter: 20k @ $18: $0.0009
Engine air filter: 30k @ $25: $0.00083
Coolant: 100k @ $30: $0.0003
Spark plugs: 100k @ $72: $0.0007
Transmission fluid: 150k @ $100 : $0.0007

Total: $0.01113 (oil changes dominate)
$0.53 / kWh @ 362 Wh/mile = $0.2002 - 0.01113 = $0.18907
$3.64 / $0.18907 = 19.25 MPG ICE equivalent
Again, in the range of an Explorer or F-150

 

[TyPope]

Plus maintenance.

So the oil is 1¢ a mile. What's the air filter? Timing? Coolant? Transmission?

All those 1¢ a miles add up.


Your choice to buy the truck that has more volume and cargo capacity and had an upsell of 'get the truck this year'. Not involved in the per mile costs you're not including in your calculation.

-Crissa

To be completely fair (and I've built several motors), timing, coolant, and transmission really aren't expenses. I can say that in the past 30 years, I have spent zero dollars on any of those things except for project cars that started off needing a lot of work. 1960 Falcon, I'm talking about you. And timing is no longer controlled by distributors as they are all electronic and need no adjusting.

Sure, there is bound to be a few people who have issues but the same can be true for any vehicle out of warranty.

 

[mongo]

To be completely fair (and I've built several motors), timing, coolant, and transmission really aren't expenses. I can say that in the past 30 years, I have spent zero dollars on any of those things except for project cars that started off needing a lot of work. 1960 Falcon, I'm talking about you. And timing is no longer controlled by distributors as they are all electronic and need no adjusting.

Sure, there is bound to be a few people who have issues but the same can be true for any vehicle out of warranty.

Guessing they were referring to timing belts which do need replaced.
Agree though, never did brake fluid, coolant, or trans fluid on previous cars. And if you don't keep the car past 100k miles, you never pay for the higher mileage items.

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

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[Crissa]

I can say that in the past 30 years, I have spent zero dollars on any of those things...

Zero dollars?

Your time isn't money? Time still costs me housing and food, even if I couldn't be earning money in that time...

Your materials aren't money?

Where do you get free time, tools, and transmission fluid?

-Crissa

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