Cybertruck hits 500kW charging speed with just unveiled V4 Cabinet!

[Cincycyber]

We only know what we know.. and don’t know what we dont know.

And just because someone says it, doesn’t mean its so.

What can be, unburdened by what has been. LOLOL

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[henchman24]

Here is a good example of how max doesn't mean much.

https://outofspecstudios.com/charging

In a different way, how max means quite a bit too. The least efficient CT beat out the dual motor Rivian (is it still the most efficient or has the LFP dual motor beat it out?) in miles added until ~27 minutes. This with only a ~250kw peak. With the ~330kw that can be had now on CCS chargers that area under the curve early would widen that gap. I'd imagine a dual motor Cybertruck on a CCS charger would be ahead until at least 30 minutes. Even if the 500kw isn't held for a long time (I think we'll see low 400s and not the 500 screenshot), it would add a ton of area under the curve quickly even if didn't hold any longer.

The Y LR AWD with this strategy remains ahead in miles added against most of the competition too. Taycan Cross Turismo and EV6 are ahead early. The Y remains behind the Taycan CT until the ~27 mark (funny enough nearly the exact opposite of CT/Rivian) and the EV6 until about ~18 minutes.

 

[jookyone]

Here is a good example of how max doesn't mean much.

https://outofspecstudios.com/charging

This is a good example of graphs that don't mean much. One shows max charge rate independent of battery size and time and the other shows real world miles added in an hour (independent of max charge rate). Those graphs are useless to this conversation if almost to any conversation.

 

[Woodrick]

In a different way, how max means quite a bit too. The least efficient CT beat out the dual motor Rivian (is it still the most efficient or has the LFP dual motor beat it out?) in miles added until ~27 minutes. This with only a ~250kw peak. With the ~330kw that can be had now on CCS chargers that area under the curve early would widen that gap. I'd imagine a dual motor Cybertruck on a CCS charger would be ahead until at least 30 minutes. Even if the 500kw isn't held for a long time (I think we'll see low 400s and not the 500 screenshot), it would add a ton of area under the curve quickly even if didn't hold any longer.

The Y LR AWD with this strategy remains ahead in miles added against most of the competition too. Taycan Cross Turismo and EV6 are ahead early. The Y remains behind the Taycan CT until the ~27 mark (funny enough nearly the exact opposite of CT/Rivian) and the EV6 until about ~18 minutes.

Look at it this way. two different batteries, each charging at normal Tesla speeds and curves.

I've been able to take on about 50% in 15-20 minutes on my Cybertruck. That's now going to drop to less than 10 minutes.

If you are still charging at the 27 minutes mark that you mentioned earlier, you need to learn how to travel faster.

 

[henchman24]

Look at it this way. two different batteries, each charging at normal Tesla speeds and curves.

I've been able to take on about 50% in 15-20 minutes on my Cybertruck. That's now going to drop to less than 10 minutes.

If you are still charging at the 27 minutes mark that you mentioned earlier, you need to learn how to travel faster.

In my years in other Teslas... the only times I've spent more than 20 minutes at a fast charger is when I've been eating. In that case I really don't care about a few minute difference. If you can get me from 5-60% in ~12 minutes, I'd be really happy. A very high peak helps that case more than a curve that doesn't drop off until 80%.

 

[SentinelOne]

How do we bribe the Supercharger team to start installing these in TX

Re-Hire them!

 

[Stinky10r]

Must be fake news. I heard the Cybertruck couldn't charge very fast.

This is very impressive. I've been watching the Out of Spec I-90 surge and best I've seen was I believe in the upper 200's with the Taycan.

 

[BayouCityBob]

Here is a good example of how max doesn't mean much.

https://outofspecstudios.com/charging

Noting that the 2024 model DM, Large on 21" wheels gets a 70mph range test of 345 mph so with no improvement on the charging curve from 2023 (which is incorrect, there have been gains) would look like this

And with Silverado for good measure.

 

[JBee]

Look at it this way. two different batteries, each charging at normal Tesla speeds and curves.

I've been able to take on about 50% in 15-20 minutes on my Cybertruck. That's now going to drop to less than 10 minutes.

If you are still charging at the 27 minutes mark that you mentioned earlier, you need to learn how to travel faster.

Thats provided you have a dense enough high power DC chatger network to cover your trip.

We just got a bunch of new chargers over the last year in our state, and on one route we have 150kW chargers and another with a single SC V3 and a different one with a lowly 50kW. On both routes there are no alternative chargers in range and you have to leave each one with at least 75-80% just to make it to the next with a M3P. The third route we can take has a 150kW, SC v3 but adds 40miles and works out longer overall.

On top of that most 150kW max out at 80-100kW seeing you can't force preconditioning and it is network limited. Tesla nav also doesn't have any of those DC chargers so is always freaking out that you won't make it.

We check the power outage map before the trip because otherwise it becomes a camping trip. Turns a normal "ICE" trip with 3/4 tank of diesel into a bit of a adventure seeing we drive through 3 seperate electricity networks.

But we always take a 20ft "Charge-Rope" with just in case, so we can get a tow charge from a local ICE if the power is down. Haven't needed it yet, but its a comfort knowing that you have a "wireless" grid free charging option in the trunk.

 

[Tedacules]

I want that everywhere ASAP. But I also want to know the charging curve and I hope it is impressive. What does everybody think about Tesla replacing the v3 cabinets at v4 dispensers? Probably won’t happen, but a Cybertruck driver that wants a better towing and road tripping experience can dream, right?

V3 near me got swapped for V4.

 

[tingmo13]

We only know what we know.. and don’t know what we dont know.

And just because someone says it, doesn’t mean its so.

that's exactly the mindset of people who chose Hybrid & Undecided Voters on Election Day.

 

[scottf200]

Noting that the 2024 model DM, Large on 21" wheels gets a 70mph range test of 345 mph so with no improvement on the charging curve from 2023 (which is incorrect, there have been gains) would look like this

And with Silverado for good measure.

Good points.

To be clear the Rivian in the graphs are "large" with the 109 kWh usable vs the 123 kWh usable in the CT Dual/Tri.

The Rivian does have a slower charging rate (kW) but does seem to hold it longer. I was simply pointing out out that people are hung up on max rate (kW) but it is a combination of efficiency, max, and kW rate holding power that give you the real results.

 

[Tecyber1]

YES!!!!! V4 for the win!

 

[BayouCityBob]

Good points.

To be clear the Rivian in the graphs are "large" with the 109 kWh usable vs the 123 kWh usable in the CT Dual/Tri.

The Rivian does have a slower charging rate (kW) but does seem to hold it longer. I was simply pointing out out that people are hung up on max rate (kW) but it is a combination of efficiency, max, and kW rate holding power that give you the real results.

Yes though I have (and Kyle Tested on the 70 mph test) the 2024 Gen 1.5 dual motor which still had the 131 kwh large battery but picked up some efficiency gains and came in with 352 miles EPA range. Now with the smaller "large" pack on the Gen 2 it is rated at 330 and the max is at 420. The in-between model turned out to be a very nice compromise but if I was buying today I would certainly get the max pack dual. Meanwhile, the Chevy is just freakin' smokin' on range and charging.

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

What can be, unburdened by what has been. LOLOL

No… the chargers are for the community…. And the CT community is just that, the community.

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