The Cyber Truck may pay for itself.

OP
OP
LDRHAWKE

LDRHAWKE

Well-known member
First Name
John
Joined
Dec 24, 2019
Threads
19
Messages
362
Reaction score
436
Location
Saint Augustine, Fl
Vehicles
Toyota FJ, GTS1000,FJR1300, Aprillia Scarabeo,
Occupation
Retired Engineer
Country flag
If the Yellowstone volcano blows we're all kind of screwed. But... being inside a Cybertruck with solar will greatly enhance your chances of survival.
Only for a little while. Back to the important things, like can we plug our Cybertruck into our home…?

USGS has modelled the ash fallout, and practically no state would be untouched but suffer from ash. So you could say goodbye to Idaho, Montana and Wyoming. Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Nebraska, and North and South Dakota would not have happy times either and be smothered by ash. The rest of the US except the south and east coast would be heavily affected by ash, and the south and east coast would still be harmed.

Note in particular California and the breadbasket in the US Midwest. It’s covered in up to four inches of toxic ash, killing basically every crop there is. The result is that the production of meat, cereal and fruit basically stops. So the US will have to import food to avoid mass starvation and death.

However, the entire world would be affected by the ash as well, causing a global volcanic winter and destroy crops globally for years. Flights will be downed during this time, possibly made impossible at all. This may even be followed by even higher global warming when the sulphuric acid is washed out of the atmosphere. Oh, and don’t forget acid rains, possibly killing lakes and rivers, maybe even oceans.

Either way, this will cause a near-total collapse of the global economic system, which will be the only thing that can feed the US until it recovers. So nobody will be able to sell the grain that the US will need to feed itself during the recovery.

The result? Massive starvation and death in the US.

Not that the rest of the world is any better off. A supervolcano eruption is basically a gigadeath event, as in billions dead.
Sponsored

 

CyberGus

Well-known member
First Name
Gus
Joined
May 22, 2021
Threads
67
Messages
5,807
Reaction score
19,081
Location
Austin, TX
Website
www.timeanddate.com
Vehicles
1981 DeLorean, 2024 Cybertruck
Occupation
IT Specialist
Country flag
The last thing I want to need is to drive 200 miles without charging to flee a natural disaster.

If you can't get away from it or to power in 50 miles, you aren't going to have enough warning.

-Crissa
Let me introduce you to my little friend, "Hurricane Katrina". The many survivors left the area because infrastructure was out for vast stretches (power in particular). They would head west until they found a functioning civilization, only to discover that the hotels were all full. So they kept heading west, with many ending up here in Austin, and that's only because we opened the convention center as a shelter. And we're over 500 miles from New Orleans.
 

Cybertruckee

Banned
Well-known member
Banned
First Name
Yosemite Sam
Joined
Apr 21, 2020
Threads
10
Messages
553
Reaction score
579
Location
Mostly under the pines
Vehicles
Red Rider
Occupation
Finance Manager
Country flag
I doubt Elon is following this thread but his recent tweet about the $3000 stock price being justified if they execute very well is probably related to this V2G/Virtual power plant business not EVs. There are many companies jumping on the EV band wagon. Several will make compelling competition which would in itself prevent gains in market share, but if Tesla Energy can in fact make all future Tesla's part of this grid, this would set them apart. I am so tempted to put in a reservation for a 2026 CT3.
Could be -- and/or the monetization of their data base of global driving systems.
 

CyberGus

Well-known member
First Name
Gus
Joined
May 22, 2021
Threads
67
Messages
5,807
Reaction score
19,081
Location
Austin, TX
Website
www.timeanddate.com
Vehicles
1981 DeLorean, 2024 Cybertruck
Occupation
IT Specialist
Country flag
I'm told that after Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980, the most valuable item in all of the Pacific Northwest was the automotive air filter. The volcanic ash lingered for weeks, and clogged the filters quickly. Those that opted to risk driving without a filter quickly regretted it.

Yet another reason to appreciate a vehicle that doesn't combust fuel, and has a bioweapon-defense mode. ;-)
 


OP
OP
LDRHAWKE

LDRHAWKE

Well-known member
First Name
John
Joined
Dec 24, 2019
Threads
19
Messages
362
Reaction score
436
Location
Saint Augustine, Fl
Vehicles
Toyota FJ, GTS1000,FJR1300, Aprillia Scarabeo,
Occupation
Retired Engineer
Country flag
I would hate to see this Yellowstone stuff keep you from looking forward to getting you new Cybertruck.

Will Yellowstone erupt in our lifetime?

The Yellowstone expert said: “Of all the possible volcano hazard scenarios for Yellowstone, by far the least likely includes another major explosive caldera-forming eruption. “This is certainly the worst-case scenario for Yellowstone, but the chances of it happening in our lifetime are, literally, one-in-a-million.
 

CyberGus

Well-known member
First Name
Gus
Joined
May 22, 2021
Threads
67
Messages
5,807
Reaction score
19,081
Location
Austin, TX
Website
www.timeanddate.com
Vehicles
1981 DeLorean, 2024 Cybertruck
Occupation
IT Specialist
Country flag
Which would itself be clogged and worthless within a day.
Sure! Except:
  • Putting the climate on "recirculate" will not suffocate you
  • Most cars have no cabin filtration at all (enjoy your Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis)
  • A 5.0L engine at idle (~800rpms) is pulling 2000 liters of air per minute, more when driving, which is a lot of air to filter
 
OP
OP
LDRHAWKE

LDRHAWKE

Well-known member
First Name
John
Joined
Dec 24, 2019
Threads
19
Messages
362
Reaction score
436
Location
Saint Augustine, Fl
Vehicles
Toyota FJ, GTS1000,FJR1300, Aprillia Scarabeo,
Occupation
Retired Engineer
Country flag

firsttruck

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 25, 2020
Threads
172
Messages
2,537
Reaction score
4,036
Location
mx
Vehicles
none
Country flag
I doubt Elon is following this thread but his recent tweet about the $3000 stock price being justified if they execute very well is probably related to this V2G/Virtual power plant business not EVs. There are many companies jumping on the EV band wagon. Several will make compelling competition which would in itself prevent gains in market share, but if Tesla Energy can in fact make all future Tesla's part of this grid, this would set them apart. I am so tempted to put in a reservation for a 2026 CT3.

ArkInvest & Elon $3000 stock price is for 2025.
Tesla V2G/Virtual power plant will not significantly impact Tesla financials so soon because while there will be millions of Tesla vehicles on the road by 2025 there will still be few homes with the V2/VG setup. By 2030 Tesla start seeing significant reveune from V2G.

Tesla EV market share is irrelevant. The EV market is coming from small base but total EV market is growing fast. Just by basic math, Tesla can lose EV market share while Tesla double sales. In fact this doubling is already a baked in reality because of both Austin & Berlin factories coming on line at full scale in 2022/2023.

The two metrics that should be used are:
1. Tesla growth in sells
2. Tesla market share in total passenger vehicle market ( total ICE, BEV, HEV)
 
Last edited:

Crissa

Well-known member
First Name
Crissa
Joined
Jul 8, 2020
Threads
126
Messages
16,211
Reaction score
27,071
Location
Santa Cruz
Vehicles
2014 Zero S, 2013 Mazda 3
Country flag
I just signed to get three Tesla power walls installed, but they have a one year wait. I'm really.hoping autobidder is perfected by then.
Yeah, me too. I signed up when they were released. But every time they have had installers in our area, Tesla has limited them to only-with-solar.

I understand why: They have a limited supply and that increases their customer satisfaction and environmental impact.

Of course... I still need a new battery backup.

I'm also hoping my house doesn't get burned down between now and then too.
Me too.

In retrospect, when have times not been interesting?
The 80s and 90s were pretty boring.

Let me introduce you to my little friend, "Hurricane Katrina".
They didn't need to go more than 50 miles to escape without charging. If you want to travel outside the damage zone, you do it before the storm comes, and power will be plentiful (and free to evacuees). If the storm is passing/has passed through, you don't want to travel because of damage and flooding. You are safer sitting on the nearest hill.

Which would itself be clogged and worthless within a day.
True. But that's more than not at all. Always store a spare!

Tesla Cybertruck The Cyber Truck may pay for itself. 07015860-2A60-4DF4-8E0E-B1F1765CE9D7



-Crissa
 


Ogre

Well-known member
First Name
Dennis
Joined
Jul 3, 2021
Threads
164
Messages
10,719
Reaction score
26,998
Location
Ogregon
Vehicles
Model Y
Country flag
I'm also hoping my house doesn't get burned down between now and then too.
Fire isn't high on my list of concerns. I'd be more worried about losing the forested area behind my house.

Tesla Cybertruck The Cyber Truck may pay for itself. 1631301114981


I need to get a better photo of the house/ car, the yard is chaos in this one.
 

JBee

Well-known member
First Name
JB
Joined
Nov 22, 2019
Threads
18
Messages
4,752
Reaction score
6,129
Location
Australia
Vehicles
Cybertruck
Occupation
. Professional Hobbyist
Country flag
Before Yellowstone goes you'll proably have beached whales and/or dolphins around full moon time and a moon eclipse. If one is passing overhead pack your bags into a fully charged CT just in case. :eek: :p?:alien:
 

Tinker71

Well-known member
First Name
Ray
Joined
Aug 8, 2020
Threads
82
Messages
1,484
Reaction score
1,967
Location
Utah
Vehicles
1976 electric conversion bus
Occupation
Project Manager
Country flag
ArkInvest & Elon $3000 stock price is for 2025.
Tesla V2G/Virtual power plant will not significantly impact Tesla financials so soon because while there will be millions of Tesla vehicles on the road by 2025 there will still be few homes with the V2/VG setup. By 2030 Tesla start seeing significant reveune from V2G.

Tesla EV market share is irrelevant. The EV market is coming from small base but total EV market is growing fast. Just by basic math, Tesla can lose EV market share while Tesla double sales. In fact this doubling is already a baked in reality because of both Austin & Berlin factories coming on line at full scale in 2022/2023.

The two metrics that should be used are:
1. Tesla growth in sells
2. Tesla market share in total passenger vehicle market ( total ICE, BEV, HEV)
That sounds about right.

The current stock price makes no sense to me. If Tesla makes 3,000,000 vehicles per year 2023 and clears $12,000 each that is only $36 B. Market Cap today is $738 B.

While there is a lot of hype, something besides future vehicle sales is driving the valuation. FSD subscriptions to 3rd party, V2G, Virtual Grids etc
 
OP
OP
LDRHAWKE

LDRHAWKE

Well-known member
First Name
John
Joined
Dec 24, 2019
Threads
19
Messages
362
Reaction score
436
Location
Saint Augustine, Fl
Vehicles
Toyota FJ, GTS1000,FJR1300, Aprillia Scarabeo,
Occupation
Retired Engineer
Country flag
Before Yellowstone goes you'll proably have beached whales and/or dolphins around full moon time and a moon eclipse. If one is passing overhead pack your bags into a fully charged CT just in case. :eek: :p?:alien:
if that’s the case we are in good shape because it can’t happen until late 2022.
 
OP
OP
LDRHAWKE

LDRHAWKE

Well-known member
First Name
John
Joined
Dec 24, 2019
Threads
19
Messages
362
Reaction score
436
Location
Saint Augustine, Fl
Vehicles
Toyota FJ, GTS1000,FJR1300, Aprillia Scarabeo,
Occupation
Retired Engineer
Country flag
That sounds about right.

The current stock price makes no sense to me. If Tesla makes 3,000,000 vehicles per year 2023 and clears $12,000 each that is only $36 B. Market Cap today is $738 B.

While there is a lot of hype, something besides future vehicle sales is driving the valuation. FSD subscriptions to 3rd party, V2G, Virtual Grids etc
Amazon stock price never made any sense to me based on PE or ROI, there is an obvious fourth dimension ?
Sponsored

 
 




Top