? [Update: NOT Production Wiper] New Cybertruck design spied! Shortened front, no door handles, side mirrors, curved windshield glass! [Dec. 10]

[SentinelOne]

Yes, exactly my point. Midgate for camping in truck would be less useful in an ICE truck.

Just like dog mode is much more useful and safer with an EV while doing it in ICE vehicle is more dangerous & noisy.

Ah, got it now...good point, was slow on the uptake!

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[Zapharus]

What’s with the big gap between the rear fender and the truck body looks like a great place to pack a lot of mud into. I find it strange

Can be used as a step?

 

[Zapharus]

No way in hell I can go down to a 5.5 foot bed. Regularly buying 4x8 and 10'+ long boards. I make them work with creativity in my Silverado's 6.5' bed, but 5.5' or less and the center of gravity is gonna be beyond the edge of the tailgate when its up.

There have been two things that will force me to cancel my order: if the yoke is kept, because backing up a 25' trailer will be a pain in the dick with it, and haptic buttons suck. Or, if the bed shrunk to the point I can't haul lumber over 8 feet long in it.

I'm not getting a good feeling here....

The haptic buttons on the new Model S is by far one of the worse design implementations Tesla has done so far. I can deal with the yoke but the touch/haptic buttons are a horrible idea.

 

[Ogre]

The rolling cover storage space below the vault bed could then be used for more batteries or more cargo storage.

I get that you like the idea of the sliding cover better, but it is just not good if you use the vault open part of the time. You would have to remove it from the truck to pick up a washing machine or haul bikes. That is seriously non-optimal.

Having the *option* to have a sliding cover is a great idea, but if there is to be only one configuration, Tesla made the right choice. The single big advantage of the sliding door is that it enables the mid-gate. A lot of people don’t need that or don’t want to sacrifice the disappearing vault cover to get that.

If the only/ main option was a sliding cover, half of all owners would pull them off and never put them back on again so they could use the bed. That defeats the point of having an integrated cover entirely.

Pickup trucks have open beds. Or at least openable beds which you can leave open when you are driving around, that’s the whole point.

 

[meleagris4]

(Note I still have to extend the rear roof lip a bit to reduce the sliding vault cover overlap, and I've also tapered the top of the cover so it fits the apex width. - but you get the idea)

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Would it be possible to have a 3 piece sliding cover that tuck in and stack under the overhang similar to what some sliding glass moonroofs do? Could be optional stainless or glass.

 

[CyberGus]

I prefer the rollup vault cover that Elon presented. I don't at all see why it is incompatible with a midgate.

 

[Carlos Thomas]

I still have to update the CT CAD model to the latest version in the video, but it would look something like this from the top. The left piece of vault cover glass slides up the outside of the rear roof up to the apex. The sliding cover would be about 30mm thick and wouldn't alter much airflow when fully open as it would sit flush on the rear roof. You can have both in solar, or just the vault cover, that way the rear roof is still transparent if you have the cover closed. (Obviously this frees up the vault cover roll space for storage and gets rid of all the cover induced complications of a midgate)

(Note I still have to extend the rear roof lip a bit to reduce the sliding vault cover overlap, and I've also tapered the top of the cover so it fits the apex width. - but you get the idea)

This could explain why the top of the roof was not see thru at all. Almost like it was blacked out. If the that allows for a full mid-gate pass thru, then I am okay with the encroachment of the rear bed space. I want to put a dual sport motorcycle in the truck bed, which that lip would make it someone problematic with the fender of the bike, but I could make it work by putting the front tire on something to raise it up enough so the fender clears the lip.

With regards to the bed length and all the measurements, I think the total length is more than likely the same. In the photo's it doesn't look like the rear gate has the ramp in it. It is a test vehicle and they probably don't need to focus on that now. The ramp and the truck being able to sit like a dog is something that would be really great. Hopefully we don't loose that feature.

 

[Ogre]

Just noticed the hitch area is significantly different from previous versions. The original just had a rather goofy looking receiver that looked like a stinger sticking out. This version has a wider area around the hitch receiver.

Looks a lot more like a regular truck layout.

I just noticed it on the picture @FutureBoy posted, maybe I’ll chase down a better angle in a bit.

 

[firsttruck]

I get that you like the idea of the sliding cover better, but it is just not good if you use the vault open part of the time. You would have to remove it from the truck to pick up a washing machine or haul bikes. That is seriously non-optimal.

Having the *option* to have a sliding cover is a great idea, but if there is to be only one configuration, Tesla made the right choice. The single big advantage of the sliding door is that it enables the mid-gate.

Midgate is not only advantage of sliding vault cover that is stored in roof

sliding vault cover:
lower cost of materials
lower cost of assembly of cover sub-assembly
lower cost assemble of cover sub-assembly into truck
higher reliability (is less complex and has fewer moving parts)
less space needed in truck so more space available for batteries or cargo.

If sliding vault cover with solar cells, hugely lower cost than solar cells on rolling cover slats.

Also there is no physical reason there can't be a full unencumbered 6.5ft bed and sliding cover with the Cybertruck design.
It is possible to have all four
1. unencumbered 6.5ft bed ( when open, no vertical limits around edges)
2. Mid-gate
3. Sliding cover
4. Solar cells

Doesn't mean Tesla will do all four but it is physical possible with general Cybertruck shape & dimensions.

 

[Ogre]

Midgate is not only advantage of sliding vault cover that is stored in roof

sliding vault cover:
lower cost of materials
lower cost of assembly of cover sub-assembly
lower cost assemble of cover sub-assembly into truck
higher reliability (is less complex and has fewer moving parts)
less space needed in truck so more space available for batteries or cargo.

If sliding vault cover with solar cells, hugely lower cost than solar cells on rolling cover slats.

Also there is no physical reason there can't be a full unencumbered 6.5ft bed and sliding cover with the Cybertruck design.
It is possible to have all four
1. unencumbered 6.5ft bed ( when open, no vertical limits around edges)
2. Mid-gate
3. Sliding cover
4. Solar cells

Doesn't mean Tesla will do all four but it is physical possible with general Cybertruck shape & dimensions.

You are engaging in a lot of speculation here which has no relation to my primary concern which is what to do with the sliding cover when the truck is in motion and the bed is open to the air.

Either the cover is inside the cabin, reducing head space, potential leaks, and/ or adding a pocket door area which would reduce headroom even more. Or it’s outside the cabin in which case it is proud of the roofline and introduces a bunch of additional complexity with regards to aerodynamics.

The rolling vault cover addresses those issues by storing the cover underneath the bed.

Having an open truck bed is a huge part of the versatility of a pickup. Without it, it’s really an SUV with a weirdly opening cargo area.

 

[Crissa]

I'm pretty sure a bike won't have trouble with that overhang. It's above the passenger cabin. Think about it, if it'a a one foot over hang, how low could it be without hitting your fender? Pretty low, honestly. Even with a 28" tire, that 1' overhang only hits the fender if the wall 28" high.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

I'm pretty sure a bike won't have trouble with that overhang. It's above the passenger cabin. Think about it, if it'a a one foot over hang, how low could it be without hitting your fender? Pretty low, honestly. Even with a 28" tire, that 1' overhang only hits the fender if the wall 28" high.

-Crissa

My only concern about my mountain bikes fitting is length. They fit just about right in my Tundra, with that reverse slope at the bottom of the vault area, I might end up 4-6” short and have to start mounting the bikes diagonally. In the Tundra I could get 3 easy and 4 snug. If you gotta turn them a little diagonal, 3 is going to be tight.

Not a deal breaker for me regardless, I have a hitch mount I can keep in the under-vault storage for those days when I need more than a couple bikes. Also, lots of roof storage.

 

[Ogre]

Any kind of cover needs to be able to deal with accessories.

This is the sort of thing you expect a pickup to be able to do. If your sliding cover prevents adding something like this or adding a roof rack, its more or less a non-start.

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