350 mile range Quad Motor rumored to be 1st trim launched

[CyberGus]

I thought everyone understood basic physics, but maybe I'm assuming too much.

IKR! Some even believe that particles can be in two places at once, and teleport instantly from one place to another! A ha ha ha! A ha ha ha!

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[SentinelOne]

It's pretty hard to offend me personally, but you are welcome to try. -- was trying to back it down with the apology not escalate it, asshole much?

I still don't understand why you complain about range at high speed when you say it's clearly enough for your use case. It's non-sensical. -- it is enough for my use case, wans't complaining about range, was responding to a previous post that the i25 is a killer because speed limit is high and you pretty much have to keep with the flow, and in that case range is way off vs. EPA (logically). -- my exact words from earlier in post "Just trying to contribute to the thread that the i25 in Colorado doesn't provide EPA numbers!" -- was about the road, not my cars range or rim size or anything else - car's a beauty for what I need it for! zero complaints other than I died three times for having lowered it 1" and having the audacity of using the non aero rims!

Is it because you don't have a solid grasp of how the energy consumed is divvied up between aerodynamic losses, rolling resistance at different speeds? Aero losses grow with the square of the speed. I thought everyone understood basic physics, but maybe I'm assuming too much.
-- not very hard to grasp but thanks for the insult...leads me to believe you aren't offended <eye roll>

 

[cvalue13]

Tesla gamed the range numbers and then tried to cancel perfectly valid service appointments.

the allegation of range gaming tweaks by software was 10 years ago

the special team to cancel service appointments was started last summer

 

[cvalue13]

class action by 3 people. !!!!

that’s How class actions work

in this case, 3 lead plaintiffs

If the court certifies the lawsuit as a class action, similar individuals can join the claim and become part of the plaintiff class, alongside the lead plaintiffs.

 

[JBee]

IKR! Some even believe that particles can be in two places at once, and teleport instantly from one place to another! A ha ha ha! A ha ha ha!

Yet others say there is only one electron in the universe, but is omnipresent everywhere because it is so fast.

Entanglement is a thing. Otherwise how could I reorder your brain neurons with a simple message from the other side of the planet, the instant you read this?

 

[PilotPete]

IKR! Some even believe that particles can be in two places at once, and teleport instantly from one place to another! A ha ha ha! A ha ha ha!

Gus,
Quit trying to "string" us along!

 

[Crissa]

Carissa, mi Amigo, are we drinking and posting???

Air doesn’t care about shape.

Uhh... Are you? It totally cares about shape. The shape a bubble wants to be is a sphere.

To get those low-profile tires they have to add a bunch of extra stiffening to do it. And that often does not help the properties you need for range and performance.

-Crissa

 

[Coolbreeze704]

Superconductors are the answer. (edited for the forums protection)

 

[cvalue13]

Super Conductors are the answer.

At least in my dreams

Grammer too!

 

[Coolbreeze704]

Grammer too!

You're right.

Wish I had some. I blame it on the girls in school. I couldn't focus.

 

[cvalue13]

You're right.

Wish I had some. I blame it on the girls in school. I couldn't focus.

not you, silly!

the content creators “This is could” just makes my eye twitch

 

[Coolbreeze704]

not you, silly!

the content creators “This is could” just makes my eye twitch

Lol, I did have semiconductor incorrectly used. More like a conductor of

 

[CyberGus]

I'm going to make a "superconducting semiconductor" and implode reality

 

[PilotPete]

Uhh... Are you? It totally cares about shape. The shape a bubble wants to be is a sphere.

To get those low-profile tires they have to add a bunch of extra stiffening to do it. And that often does not help the properties you need for range and performance.

-Crissa

Sorry Amigo,

A bubble takes a sphere shape not because the air wants that shape, but because the bubble chooses a shape of equal pressure. (See: Surface Tension) Gasses will take the shape of their container. The container shape can be affected by pressure. (Balloons) Plane fuselages are round (round-ish) for the same reason gas cylinders and submarines are round-ish, equal pressure distribution. But in the end, the gas will take any shape, or no shape, it doesn't care.

Sidewalls are supported by air pressure. A shorter sidewall flexes less for the same reason a shorter stick is harder to break. Look at the deflection on a short sidewall and a taller sidewall with the same side load. And overall for a given wheel outer diameter, the shorter the sidewall, the more rim. And the rim is ALWAYS stiffer than the sidewall. True, performance tires add sidewall stiffness to help with deflection, not because they are short, but because a car that uses low profiles is more likely to place an even greater side load.

As for minimizing rolling resistance (the properties you need for range) the perfect range invention would be all rim and no tire. 0-60 would suck, and so would cornering and braking, but you'd get great range. Low profile tires tend to be wider than 60+ series tires. This adds rolling resistance and aero penalties, and so you get less range. It also requires wider rims, which are heavier, and that don't help either. A super stiff sidewall reduces rolling resistance, and that's a good thing. I'll go back to the i3, short sidewall, narrow tire. Best possible range for that anemic little thing.

 

[Crissa]

Gasses take the shape of their container.

Until the pressure of that gas exceeds the strength of the container, and then it turns into a sphere.

Because gasses totally care about the shape of their container.

-Crissa

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