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Huh? Get the price down from what? They already have far more than a million reservations based on the reveal pricing of $39.9K, $49.9K and $69.9K but it sounds like you're saying they need to lower the price further to sell more than 250K of 'em?
Down from "whatever they want". I'm saying they can sell $100k CT4 plaids for 2023. But they will need to have a semi-affordable model if they want to crank out 250k trucks per year.
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EXACTLY! That's what I keep telling the wife - she doesn't understand because she can't look past its beautiful ugliness..

I'm gonna have a bear talk to her...

No, give the beer to her, it will make the truck look more beautiful !
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How much of the population do you think has 85k to spend on a truck?

If 85k is the going rate to get an EV truck, then i don't see them selling millions of trucks. Do you know another vehicle on the road that sells for 85k and are numbered in the millions.
this might not be an accurate comparison but look at the new c8 corvette. they go for 90k plus and everyone is buying them. if teslas quad motor goes for 100k there will absolutely be people buying it at that price. me being one of them. especially with the specs elon has teased. a truck doing 500 range and 2.9 60. there will be a huge market of people that will pay that much.
 

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this might not be an accurate comparison but look at the new c8 corvette. they go for 90k plus and everyone is buying them. if teslas quad motor goes for 100k there will absolutely be people buying it at that price. me being one of them. especially with the specs elon has teased. a truck doing 500 range and 2.9 60. there will be a huge market of people that will pay that much.
During the complete 2021 calendar year, Corvette sales increased about 53 percent to 33,041 units
Very popular. That's about how many Mach-E were sold. And normally how many Model S&X. But about 10% of what Tesla sold Model Y and 3 combined.

Elon wants Model 3 and Y numbers, not Model S numbers. Mass production.

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I was reading about the F150 Limited and it's history. It is basically an F150 configured with the most expensive available options for the truck and some options only available to this top trim.
It tops out at about $84k and has alway been close to 3x the price of the base model.

The Limited has never accounted for more than 1% of overall F150 sales. So very few people are willing to step up to that price point.

I know at $70k, CT3 has a good percentage of the reservations but as Elon alluded, there is a price cliff beyond which willing buyers drop off drastically.

This being a pickup, i dont see a big market for a $85k CT4 or plaid. As unique as it may be, most couldn't afford it and many who can couldn't stomach it. What are your thoughts.
You have valid points.

Which is echo-ed by what Elon said....there is a price cliff - at some point.
Maybe it is $75K. Maybe it is $85K. Or Maybe it is $95K.

Point is, only a small % of buyers can or will plunk down $85,000+ for an EV pickup, let alone any vehicle. How many Hummers have sold? Tesla Plaids? Lucids? Porsche Taycan?

Selling 100,000 of a luxury priced vehicle is one thing. Selling a million, or more, is a totally another thing.

I would buy a CyberTruck Quad tomorrow for $85,000. But, I would have no interest in it at $100,000+. I would buy a Rivian 400 mile range model for $80,000 tomorrow, but have no interest at $100K. Ditto the Ford Lightning.

We shall see how it shakes someday, when that someday comes that Tesla finally rolls the Cybertruck out the doors in Austin.

I feel bad for those that are clinging to the hope there will be a Cybertruck under $60,000. I just don't ever seeing that happening.
 

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When the Model S launched in 2012, prices ranged roughly from $70K - $120K+. They have never been able to keep up with demand since they started making them. There are plenty of people already spending $85K+ on pickup trucks that never go off-road.
 


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I will be buying mine with Canadian dollars and they seem to add another 5% on top of the exchange so I am looking at at least 90 to 100 k (CAD) probably for the CT3 with another 13% tax (HST) and our 5 K federal EV rebate is a joke as it tops out at 80 K unlike your federal 7.5 k rebate in the US.
 

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I think you are trolling for comments. When you look at the EV truck market, $85K is not that much money.
Currently, the “EV Truck Market” consists of about 7500 trucks. TOTAL.

Tesla wants to ship 250,000 trucks per year.

Do you really think average pricing on the first 7,500k trucks is a good indicator for pricing of the next 10,000,000?
 

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When the Model S launched in 2012, prices ranged roughly from $70K - $120K+. They have never been able to keep up with demand since they started making them. There are plenty of people already spending $85K+ on pickup trucks that never go off-road.
Average price of a pickup truck in 2021 was $41k, with the brisk rate of inflation right now, that’s likely up a bit, but not doubled.

There are **some** trucks selling for $85k but the vast majority sell for $35k - $50k.
 

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Very popular. That's about how many Mach-E were sold. And normally how many Model S&X. But about 10% of what Tesla sold Model Y and 3 combined.

Elon wants Model 3 and Y numbers, not Model S numbers. Mass production.

-Crissa
Thanks for adding your informative insight ?
 

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Currently, the “EV Truck Market” consists of about 7500 trucks. TOTAL.

Tesla wants to ship 250,000 trucks per year.

Do you really think average pricing on the first 7,500k trucks is a good indicator for pricing of the next 10,000,000?
I'm a bit surprised I need to esplain this to you, but here goes.

When Tesla begins their production, the immediate goal will be 1000 per week. It could take several months to reach that goal. So, out of the gate, Elon wants to do "Shock & Awe" for the public. The Plaid Cybertruck would blow away anything that has ever been done in the history of vehicles. Tesla will not care if the demand for Plaid Cybertrucks is limited. They know that they won't be able to produce THEM to the level of demand for several months or longer.

BUT, when those monsters hit the streets, it will be massive publicity for next to nothing, and the demand for NORMAL Cybertrucks will go through the roof. At that point Tesla is hoping they can produce 250,000 "normal" Cybertrucks per year.

It's called marketing!
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