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Actually this will likely make it worse in snow specifically. With snow, a narrower tire so the weight is less distributed and pushes down through the snow will give better traction than a wider tire. So if snow is your aim, wider tires are worse, not better.
Wrong.

The tire compound matters more. The tires we've seen on the CTs stuck in snow are not good tires, and the compound becomes too hard when they get cold. Not to mention the tread was not ideal and gets caked up with snow too easily.
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Wrong.

The tire compound matters more. The tires we've seen on the CTs stuck in snow are not good tires, and the compound becomes too hard when they get cold. Not to mention the tread was not ideal and gets caked up with snow too easily.
Look this up. The compound matters the most, correct. But given the same compound, narrower is better in snow and nice. Wider tires float and slip comparatively given the same weight and same compound. This is worse on icy roads than snowy in particular.

Edit: Not all mud tires make good snow tires. So wider mud tires can still be worse in snow than a more narrow road-oriented tire if the road oriented-tire is specifically designed for snow.

This may or may not be better than the stock compound but when you factor in the width increase the snow performance could be worse even if the mud performance is improved.

YMMV

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Look this up. The compound matters the most, correct. But given the same compound, narrower is better in snow and nice. Wider tires float and slip comparatively given the same weight and same compound. This is worse on icy roads than snowy in particular.
It's such a minimal difference though here man. The benefits of better compound will cancel out the slight drawback of a wider tire in this situation.
 

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It's such a minimal difference though here man. The benefits of better compound will cancel out the slight drawback of a wider tire in this situation.

Maybe, maybe not.

As I edited my comment to state, the compound matters but the width is not inconsequential at all. Many tires that are great in mud are assumed to also be great in snow when in fact their performance is not as good as a narrower dedicated snow tire if snow is your purpose. That's my point.
 

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Maybe, maybe not.

As I edited my comment to state, the compound matters but the width is not inconsequential at all. Many tires that are great in mud are assumed to also be great in snow when in fact their performance is not as good as a narrower dedicated snow tire if snow is your purpose. That's my point.
Just remember, the treads of the tire matter more than anything. How fast a tire can purge built up snow within the tread is more important than how skinny the tire in.

A skinny tire with tread completely caked up with snow won't do nearly as well as a wide tire that clears it's tread more efficiently.
 


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Look this up. The compound matters the most, correct. But given the same compound, narrower is better in snow and nice. Wider tires float and slip comparatively given the same weight and same compound. This is worse on icy roads than snowy in particular.

Edit: Not all mud tires make good snow tires. So wider mud tires can still be worse in snow than a more narrow road-oriented tire if the road oriented-tire is specifically designed for snow.

This may or may not be better than the stock compound but when you factor in the width increase the snow performance could be worse even if the mud performance is improved.

YMMV

Cheers
Guess I'll have to throw some buggy wheels onto the Cybertruck when i get it.

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Just remember, the treads of the tire matter more than anything. How fast a tire can purge built up snow within the tread is more important than how skinny the tire in.

A skinny tire with tread completely caked up with snow won't do nearly as well as a wide tire that clears it's tread more efficiently.

Agreed but that's not the point I'm trying to make.

A lot of people get wide wide knobby mud tires and think they are all set for snow. Some of these wide tires that are great for mud (edited due to typo) are not very good in snow and ice at all. And it can be counterintuitive but for snow specifically with all other things being equal, narrower is better than wider. Making sure people are aware of that. I've watched sedans with snow tires take on icy roads while lifted pickups with wide mud tires slid off the highway on more than one occasion.

YMMV
 
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Guess I'll have to throw some buggy wheels onto the Cybertruck when i get it.

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The tires still have to be able to support the weight of the vehicle. Not sure those would hold up!

We're talking science here, not looks of the tires. Trying to make sure people are aware of something that can make a difference and save lives in the worst of cases.

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Agreed but that's not the point I'm trying to make.

A lot of people get wide wide knobby mud tires and think they are all set for snow. Some of these wide tires that are great for snow are not very good in snow and ice at all. And it can be counterintuitive but for snow specifically with all other things being equal, narrower is better than wider. Making sure people are aware of that. I've watched sedans with snow tires take on icy roads while lifted pickups with wide mud tires slid off the highway on more than one occasion.

YMMV
Ice is a different story. Mud tires aren't good for ice.

You need the triple peak rated tires for that, or more importantly, winter tires.

There are many mud tires that have compounds that get extremely hard when frozen, and also don't have great ice performance. Mud tires are good.. for the mud... Ice is a completely different story.

Personally, I'll be running KO2s on my truck which are triple peak rated. Width won't matter because they'll be so much better than the crap stock Goodyear's coming on these trucks.
 

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Ice is a different story. Mud tires aren't good for ice.

You need the triple peak rated tires for that, or more importantly, winter tires.

There are many mud tires that have compounds that get extremely hard when frozen, and also don't have great ice performance. Mud tires are good.. for the mud... Ice is a completely different story.

Personally, I'll be running KO2s on my truck which are triple peak rated. Width won't matter because they'll be so much better than the crap stock Goodyear's coming on these trucks.
If you'll be in the snow, do your research about those tires. Lots of people report poor performance in snow with KO2s despite the snowflake symbol.

Edit:

Where would you have snow where you won't also have ice? Never had that happen to me pretty much ever. In my experience you generally have both, or at least patches of ice on the road, wherever there is any significant snow.
 
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If you'll be in the snow, do your research about those tires. Lots of people report poor performance in snow with KO2s despite the snowflake symbol.
I've owned them on my Raptors and TRX and they aren't nearly as good as dedicated winter tires for sure. Probably 50% of a winter tire. They don't have sipes on them so ice performance is just ok.

We really don't have many choices for all terrain tires and mud tires are even worse is my point in guess. KO2s are the best option for an AT tire, imo.

Anyone in full time winter conditions (I'm not, thankfully as I'm in CA) should run winter tires during winter.
 

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This is about as “Scientific” as you can get, with regards to comparing wide vs narrow Offroad tires and Contact patch at different air pressures. Surprisingly Narrow tires yield a larger contact patch area.
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The related query for the board? Is there a specific model tire that will significantly cut the road noise reported by the recent drivers? Coming from an existing Range Rover driver who likes cabin comfort combined with his performance.
 

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Pretty cool but Method wheels are played out.

Fuel wheels are much cooler, here's a couple options I'm considering, 18" of course and they even could have less aero drag because the spokes are so closed up. I'll be going with BFG KO2s which are lightweight tires, so this combo should be lighter than stock as well.​

Keep in mind I'm going satin black PPF on my Beast

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