Air Suspension as Tire Jack on your Air Suspension's Cybertruck

[Ogre]

Well known fact that driving on 3 wheels improves range by 10% due to reduced friction.

Driving with 2 wheels improves it even more, it’s just a trickier problem.

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[rr6013]

When did you go offroad last?
I guess you never offroaded, otherwise you would never ask this question

Offroad flats were all sidewall lacerations. No replacement warranty. Aussie beadlocks solved the runflat-get home problem nicely.

 

[Ogre]

Offroad flats were all sidewall lacerations. No replacement warranty. Aussie beadlocks solved the runflat-get home problem nicely.

I’d never seen this before on a truck/ OHV tire.

But there is something very similar for mountain bikes. They generally just use a foam core to prevent “snake bite” pictures.

 

[Crissa]

Wow, that is pretty cool. It's like how they use different coil diameter to create an increasing amount of resistance to compression before bottoming out.

-Crissa

 

[Richard V.]

Offroad flats were all sidewall lacerations. No replacement warranty. Aussie beadlocks solved the runflat-get home problem nicely.

Hi Rex, I found this enclosed reference. The image is the same so I assume this is one of the products you were talking about. COYOTE BOLTLESS BEADLOCK SYSTEM - Coyote Enterprises (coyoteents.com)

 

[rr6013]

Hi Rex, I found this enclosed reference. The image is the same so I assume this is one of the products you were talking about. COYOTE BOLTLESS BEADLOCK SYSTEM - Coyote Enterprises (coyoteents.com)

Bought mine in 2003 for my Rubicon as Aussie beadlocks from ORW in San Diego. These are now US DOT approved and improved Coyote branded exactly same Aussie beadlock. I run on standard 16” x 9” rim which enables to crawl as low as 8psi. Never blown a bead off a rim. Never notice out-of-balance with the extra tire inside that adds weight. They balance up just like any other wheel and tire.

Note: you will be drilling a 2nd valve stem into your rims for the Aussie bladder. Didn’t like that but have never had a leak or problem. Its been bomb-proof.

 

[Crissa]

How does that affect your tire choice?

-Crissa

 

[Zabhawkin]

As far as the OP, it would depend on the weight balance, like on those Citroens, they are front heavy so lifting one of the rear tires isn't that big of an issue.

I have been looking into getting a set of the coyote beadlocks for the Jeep, I keep burping the beads when down below 5psi. As far as changing tires, every 2-3 years on the dailies, 2-3 times a year when off-roading, usually due to a ripped sidewall.

 

[OneLapper]

Tubliss makes these for motocross bikes.

I use them and love them.

Looks like same but for truck tires

 

[Richard V.]

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Tubliss makes these for motocross bikes.

I use them and love them.

Looks like same but for truck tires

Nice

 

[sirfartsalot]

When did you change a tire last?

Exactly! That's a solution looking for a problem. IMO

 

[Richard V.]

Exactly! That's a solution looking for a problem. IMO

Hey Bud, you would not need to change any tires if you had a transformer truck!

 

[Deleted member 3316]

Ref: Air Suspension as Tire Jack – TeslaTap

With the fully planned air suspension on each Cybertruck four wheels could three fully elevated wheels possibly hold up on a deflated tire wheel for it's replacement instead of jacking it up manually at the faulting wheel? This could be fixed just by a small temporary software setting enabled by your Cybertruck SW.

To be honest, I had the idea after I found this reference as part of my research for this post... Yes, there is already someone thinking of it.

Will Tesla's Cybertruck have a supporting feature like it?

This was the mechanism for jacking the 1955 Citroen DS. The DS had hydro pneumatic suspension like the Bollinger B1 & B2 trucks are planned to have.

The procedure is to raise the suspension to the fullest height place a jack stand under the body near the problem wheel then lower the suspension, which pulls up the wheel supported by the jack stand.

This has an issue of only working consistently in ideal conditions but on paved roads it’s worked flawlessly.

I do hope the Cybertruck engineers seek the knowledge and experiences of off-road recovery specialist to come up with some novel solutions to lifting the wheels and body in recovery situations.

 

[Ogre]

Teslas current solution to this is to push a button on the console to summon service and watch Netflix until they arrive.

It would be neat if they had some kind of quick fix solution here, but its not even clear Tesla is going to ship a spare tire as an option, let along include some nifty way to change it.

 

[Deleted member 3316]

A long time ago, but if you have to do it I would like the Cybertruck to allow for it with the proper software controls. Given the technology involved with the Cybertruck it would be an interesting additional "Feature" to have.

Many people would use Cybertruck as a daily driver and also like to go off road occasionally, those tyre choices would be markedly different.

An easy mechanism to select the correct tyre choice for the immediate use case would be ideal.

Teslas current solution to this is to push a button on the console to summon service and watch Netflix until they arrive.

It would be neat if they had some kind of quick fix solution here, but its not even clear Tesla is going to ship a spare tire as an option, let along include some nifty way to change it.

I think you are misunderstanding the use case and intended customer.

Tesla cannot afford to assume Cybertruck owners will have the same expectations as Model S3XY drivers.

There will be some overlap but bravado and any threat to the idea of masculinity would exclude waiting for a service truck for many.

There must be a mechanism for “real truck owners” ?? to change a tyre.

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