jhogan2424
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The model S still has radar so in that case it seems both systems failed.
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In this video you can plainly see the hood of the car nosedive from automatic braking before the driver was ever aware of the stopped traffic ahead. Not only was the driver unaware, neither were the Teslaās cameras!Thank you for the video! This is almost exactly the situation I had imagined. It would be absolutely impossible for a camera only system to have detected and stopped. Absolutely impossible.
Tesla owners can confirm but my understanding is the ābeep beep beepā is the auto brakingIn this video you can plainly see the hood of the car nosedive from automatic braking before the driver was ever aware of the stopped traffic ahead. Not only was the driver unaware, neither were the Teslaās cameras!
Yes, that's the problem.That would not be ideal. Is that currently an issue with the Teslas? Iām genuinely asking because I havenāt owned a Tesla yet. My current truck is equipped with radar but I havenāt had that issue so far.
If you frame by frame the video, the brake lights were visible before the car alerted. It totally could see ahead.Absolutely impossible.
Thanks for the link and I will certainly watch it sometime in the morning but gotta get kids down and call it a night. Lastly though, I would be plenty happy with radar that is not fused with the rest of the system. Just give me an audible tone when there is a traffic pile or dump truck ahead and let me decide if I want to brake or hit that dump truck.You should watch Dr. Karpathy's presentation on Tesla's FSD, explaining why fusing together vision and radar was less successful than vision alone.
This video is why I'm a believer in the vision-only paradigm, although I agree that Tesla probably pulled radar prematurely due to supply-chain issues.
Tesla stopping the car is not clearly derived from radar. Visual cues could be used as the system also looks at vehicles ahead too.What system allowed the Tesla to hit the broadside 18 wheeler? The news said the car detection system was not able to discern the gray trailer in the hazy sky so I assumed a visual camera system but other news said the sensors were looking at the road and looked under the trailer once it stretched across the road indicating more of a radar looking down at the road. Either way the company may be looking to find a system more accurate. This Tesla video from a couple years ago is clearly radar based and predicted the crash without seeing it. I want this in limited visibilty, not so I can drive faster but so that my CT can see beyond what I can see.
Come on man, no way that was not radar. The date stamp on vid is 2016Tesla stopping the car is not clearly derived from radar. Visual cues could be used as the system also looks at vehicles ahead too.
What am I missing that the video is clearly radar based?
If you frame by frame the video, the brake lights were visible before the car alerted. It totally could see ahead.Absolutely impossible.
Tesla has been using visual as their main system for the entire time. Yes, that car had radar, but we can't say what told it to stop.Come on man, no way that was not radar. The date stamp on vid is 2016
Visual system was in parallel. I donāt know which the car used first. The current and future systems would perform similar and stop in time. Hopefully not too quickly for the car behind,Come on man, no way that was not radar. The date stamp on vid is 2016
your comparison isn't valid as FSD will keep a safe distance from that car and react faster than you ever could. Radar isn't needed. The majority of accidents are caused by human error - FSD doesn't have that weakness.Of course not, but pulling over onto the narrow shoulder waiting on better conditions creates another hazard. And other peopleās speed and driving habits can not be controlled by me. I do not want to drive in the fog and limit that as much as practical but sometimes it is necessary. Iām just saying it seems a radar sensor is a valuable asset in poor visibility and many other conditions where cameras probably will not work. For example when a car in front of you suddenly slams on brakes due to a traffic pileup, radar would almost certainly see through the car in front of you and begin slowing your vehicle before the car in front of you ever started braking. It is impossible for a vision camera to do that no matter how advanced the software.
all it needs to do is outperform people, which it already does 10x.Iām sure the cameras outperform people, but Iām wondering how they could possibly outperform radar.