Automatic overcharge after 80% charge

[65SoYoLO]

I was at a supercharger recently that wanted to charge $0.50 a minute for a congested fee over 80% even though no one was at the charger is this normal? If so that is a serious drawback to driving on a long trip. Going to California in the near future towing a camper from New York that wil be a lot of charging stops if I have to charge every hundred miles!

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[yohst]

Idle fees apply when the station is at 50pct or more capacity, see here: https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/supercharger/fees. Note that idle charges are not applied to all stations either.

During a recent road trip with frequent supercharger stops, i never paid any idle fees when going over 80pct. Most charging stations were less then 50pct occupied but some were. Even there i did not incur idle fees so it seems (?) only frequently busy stations get these charges.

At one particular charger in Forks, WA which is the only station in near 80mi or so i was not charged idle fees even though there was only 1 open spot left. So again, it seems Tesla is doing something smart/reasonable.

 

[Gundo]

So long as you can get to next supercharger, there's really no payoff for charging much more than 80% anyway. The charge rate slows so much, you'll be waiting around forever. Better to be moving toward next SC than waiting around for 100% - that is unless you absolutely can't make it without 100%

 

[REM]

I was at a supercharger recently that wanted to charge $0.50 a minute for a congested fee over 80% even though no one was at the charger is this normal? If so that is a serious drawback to driving on a long trip. Going to California in the near future towing a camper from New York that wil be a lot of charging stops if I have to charge every hundred miles!

An empty supercharger doesn't necessarily mean that 15 people aren't currently en route to it

 

[65SoYoLO]

So long as you can get to next supercharger, there's really no payoff for charging much more than 80% anyway. The charge rate slows so much, you'll be waiting around forever. Better to be moving toward next SC than waiting around for 100% - that is unless you absolutely can't make it without 100%

I check the next SC location and decide if I want to stop there or not. My decision is based on safety. Sometimes I want to skip a station.

 

[CyberGus]

I was at a supercharger recently that wanted to charge $0.50 a minute for a congested fee over 80% even though no one was at the charger is this normal?

I am surprised by this result. Maybe the SC was "congested" because your truck is so big?

 

[mongo]

I was at a supercharger recently that wanted to charge $0.50 a minute for a congested fee over 80% even though no one was at the charger is this normal? If so that is a serious drawback to driving on a long trip. Going to California in the near future towing a camper from New York that wil be a lot of charging stops if I have to charge every hundred miles!

That is how much it would charge if it were congested. Over 80% on its own doesn't get the fee. There is also a notification if it is going to kick in along with a grace period.

Agree though, it's a potential issue when towing .

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

So long as you can get to next supercharger, there's really no payoff for charging much more than 80% anyway. The charge rate slows so much, you'll be waiting around forever. Better to be moving toward next SC than waiting around for 100% - that is unless you absolutely can't make it without 100%

There are several runs in the west where, at least in the winter, and even with a Model Y, I have felt the need to charge to 95% knowing full well I’d be sitting around a while for an additional 15 miles. Some people have big balls and don’t get paranoid below 10% SOC but I am not one of them, and especially when I am carrying my family in the car.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

I was at a supercharger recently that wanted to charge $0.50 a minute for a congested fee over 80% even though no one was at the charger is this normal? If so that is a serious drawback to driving on a long trip. Going to California in the near future towing a camper from New York that wil be a lot of charging stops if I have to charge every hundred miles!

I have gotten those messages when there was no one around. I think they are sent automatically for some SCs to get people to pay attention, but the people that violate the 85% rule are going to anyway because, after all, it’s all about them, right? The rest of us pay for their arrogance.

 

[Willinak]

Side question...are the liquid cooled cable SC's the 350kw chargers? How do you identify?

 

[CyberGus]

get paranoid below 10% SOC

The struggle is real for range anxiety. If charging opportunities are sparse in your location, then avoiding very low SoC is sensible.

Fortunately, that estimate from the BMS is highly accurate, and a little conservative even, so you can rely on it.

 

[mongo]

Side question...are the liquid cooled cable SC's the 350kw chargers? How do you identify?

Yep!
The V4 posts with immersion cables are the ones with solid body and connector on the side. They can be paired with a V3 or V4 cabinet.
Navigation also calls out the location charge power.

 

[REM]

I am surprised by this result. Maybe the SC was "congested" because your truck is so big?

whoa, easy on the compliments there, guy... ask him on a date first.

 

[Gigahorse]

I was at a supercharger recently that wanted to charge $0.50 a minute for a congested fee over 80% even though no one was at the charger is this normal? If so that is a serious drawback to driving on a long trip. Going to California in the near future towing a camper from New York that wil be a lot of charging stops if I have to charge every hundred miles!

This is getting worse as they continue to add more vehicles that can charge at the superchargers and are not building or expanding new superchargers at the same rate.
More congestion and higher fees.

 

[DaBagBoy]

So long as you can get to next supercharger, there's really no payoff for charging much more than 80% anyway. The charge rate slows so much, you'll be waiting around forever. Better to be moving toward next SC than waiting around for 100% - that is unless you absolutely can't make it without 100%

If you use the routing function you will almost never be charging above 80% on a road trip. Just enter the destination and relax. Not many routes in the USA will be over 200 miles without a SC.

Stretching the mileage between stops and filling over 60% SOC ends up costing you more time. Trust me on this or use A Better Route Planner and it lets you customize "least time" or "fewer stops"

Curious where you are routing without SCs?

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