Brake Malfunction; hit light pole

[BannedByTMC]

If you've seen the latest Jalopnik hit piece, or the various negative Electrek articles, you'll acknowledge that the lazy anti-Elon folks troll thru this forum to pull out perceived negatives, often out of context ("All CTs are already rusting!!!") and use the unvalidated experience of one poster as a proxy for all CyberTrucks or all Teslas.
So, these types of posts, legit or not, trolling or not, DO go out to a much wider audience than the regulars on this forum. If the OP does not come back and report Tesla telemetry shows user error, I would be surprised if there AREN'T articles quoting this and positing that CTs are faulty and unsafe.

Yeah even Jalopnik and Electrek aren't exactly widely read but even if they were the idea of buying a Cybertruck and crashing it into a pole on purpose is beyond ridiculous.

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[WormtownKris]

Yeah even Jalopnik and Electrek aren't exactly widely read but even if they were the idea of buying a Cybertruck and crashing it into a pole on purpose is beyond ridiculous.

Agreed. I don't think a troll got on the early list, paid for one and bogusly wrecked it on purpose. I do think it is looking more likely that it was user error. And it is human nature to want to convince ourselves and others that we did not screw up, so it must've been the truck's fault.
I don't see a lot of comments saying this was a set up. But I think people are rightly concerned, (even if it seems paranoid), that if we don't get the rest of the story the "CT failed" narrative will go out as "fact". And while Electrek and Jalopnik might be niche sites, they do get picked up by aggregator news feeds. Especially if it's something inflammatory with a highly clickable headline, and especially if the news feed algorithm says Consumer X is EV-curious.

 

[tcmccormick]

Yeah even Jalopnik and Electrek aren't exactly widely read but even if they were the idea of buying a Cybertruck and crashing it into a pole on purpose is beyond ridiculous.

If the post is fake, not saying it is, I doubt they would have actually purchased a CT. AI generated images are very convincing. I still have not seen an answer from the poster as to how the damage is on the left fender when the pole shown is on the right.

 

[Sjohnson20]

If you've seen the latest Jalopnik hit piece, or the various negative Electrek articles, you'll acknowledge that the lazy anti-Elon folks troll thru this forum to pull out perceived negatives, often out of context ("All CTs are already rusting!!!") and use the unvalidated experience of one poster as a proxy for all CyberTrucks or all Teslas.
So, these types of posts, legit or not, trolling or not, DO go out to a much wider audience than the regulars on this forum. If the OP does not come back and report Tesla telemetry shows user error, I would be surprised if there AREN'T articles quoting this and positing that CTs are faulty and unsafe.

Yeah but most of the people that read and agree with that can't even afford a Cybertruck. It's just for ad revenue for the web site. Cybertruck is in high demand and Tesla sells more EVs than anybody in the US.

 

[Crissa]

So lets see, your premise is he bought a Cybertruck, crashed it, posted pictures here on this forum that few people even know about, to slow EV adoption? Really?

Sometimes the result isn't the intention.

-Crissa

 

[BannedByTMC]

Sometimes the result isn't the intention.

But the claim being made by some is that was the intention. Of course media will create FUD where ever they can, that's not even a question.

 

[DrPhyzx]

He didn't describe it as being difficult to turn, or sending error messages.

The brakes still work without the assist, you just have to press on them with more force. They shouldn't feel soft.

-Crissa

No power could mean no error messages (no display) and no response to turning the wheel. Steer by wire means it won't be difficult to turn, it means turning the wheel won't do anything. Whether it is locked in that case, or turns without resistance, or somewhere in between we don't know and it could depend on what component caused the outage. Whatever the case, the OP has not said anything that conflicts with the hypothesis that the truck lost system power. In any case, if the brakes and steering didn't work and you were headed for a pole, I doubt you would be looking down at the display for the few seconds before impact to see if there were any error messages. ? The omission of details cannot be taken as evidence for the absence of said details.

 

[Crissa]

No power could mean no error messages (no display) and...

That would be its own error message. They didn't say that, either. They responded to many posts, so you can read through them if you want.

-Crissa

 

[DrPhyzx]

That would be its own error message. They didn't say that, either. They responded to many posts, so you can read through them if you want.

-Crissa

The omission of details cannot be taken as evidence for the absence of said details.

Who is going to notice what is or isn't on the screen in any way shape or form when they are struggling to control a vehicle only moments from hitting a stationary object? That's nonsense.

I read all the posts. Did you read mine?

 

[Crissa]

I read all the posts. Did you read mine?

Yes, you're asserting things happened which did not match the description by the poster. They posted many times and did not indicate the truck displays lost power before, during, or after the collision.

Simplest solution is to assume what they said is all that happened. They felt a lowered amount of braking power and overshot their turn.

-Crissa

 

[FutureTruck]

If the post is fake, not saying it is, I doubt they would have actually purchased a CT. AI generated images are very convincing. I still have not seen an answer from the poster as to how the damage is on the left fender when the pole shown is on the right.

AI Images for the cybertruck are not very good yet, if you have seen them you know. Furthermore AI images of damage are very unrealistic.
I believe the post is not fake, it might be some pictures taken and posted out of context, hopefully the original poster updates and we get some answers.

 

[DrPhyzx]

Yes, you're asserting things happened which did not match the description by the poster.

Incorrect. I am asserting things that match what has been described perfectly. As to things that have not been described, I am ascribing no meaning to their omission.

You, meanwhile, are assuming that everything that was observable would have been in his description: that the omission of some details is evidence for their absence. A person having an accident is not a perfect observer, and the poster has clearly not provided anything approaching a detailed account. The poster did not say "there were no error messages" or anything at all about what was shown on the screen.

Meanwhile, there are instances of trucks without power, where nothing is displayed at all, because... there is no power.

 

[Crissa]

Incorrect. I am asserting things that match what has been described perfectly. As to things that have not been described, I am ascribing no meaning to their omission.

By adding events that weren't described, you are totally 'matching'. Not.

-Crissa

 

[CyberShy]

This is simply driver error. Pick anything he did wrong from the list:

1. Driving too fast
2. Distracted driving
3. Panic turn
4. Failure to actually brake hard enough
5. Car in front stopped suddenly
6. Steering over correction.
7. Plain misjudgment of the whole situation

If the truck drove fine afterwards and braked fine, it was most likely driver error. A temporary software glitch resulting in low braking is unlikely, but possible. No airbags meant he was below the threshold to trigger them.

While it’s fun to create conspiracies, OP wants some sympathy and some way to shift the blame off of himself to feel better. He may not even realize he made a mistake which is frustrating to all of us who hit the wrong pedal or run a light we thought was green.

I’m sorry you wrecked your CT, OP. I hope you get it fixed and don’t have any more unplanned expenses like car crashes or pregnancies. My sympathies to you and your truck.

 

[BannedByTMC]

A temporary software glitch resulting in low braking is unlikely, but possible.

Which fits with what the OP described. So either that's exactly what happened or he just imagined the loss of regen and brake boost, which seems unlikely and almost impossible.

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