RVAC
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Depends on your definition of full sized truck market. F-150: yes, F-250: partially, F-350: no.Separate two distinct things you are conflating here:
(1) market with which the CT is intended to compete - we both agree the CT is intended to compete with the full sized truck market, period
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, it does mean that it's better than the F-150 (on paper) because it offers more capability within the same constraints. There's a reason why 1/2 ton does not mean 1000lbs of payload any longer.(2) quantitative full-sized truck categories of capabilities, which are defined by a few key metrics (generally, bed size, but mostly max payload, and max tow)
You’re conflating these by saying, in effect, “the CT is intended to compete in the market of F150s, it’s just a bonus the CT has 3/4 ton capabilities which will help it compete in the F150 category.”
Here’s the analogous conflation and distinction:
You: “in the supermarket produce isles, avocados compete for sales with asparagus, it’s just a bonus that avocados have seeds that can be used to grow an avocado tree”
Me: “Avocados contain a seed that can grow an avocado tree because they are not a vegetable, but instead a fruit/berry, by definition”
You: “avocados are not a fruit, they are competing for sales with vegetables in the produce section, they just happen to have a seed which makes them better at competing with asparagus for people who want their vegetables to grow trees”
Which btw, is a different conflation from people who assert in effect: “the CT is a better full-sized truck than an F150 because the CT has a bigger bed, has higher payload, and higher max towing”
analogue: “the avacado is a better vegetable than an asparagus because an avacado has a seed that grows into a tree”
To which Farmer Ford would reply, “I mean, I also grow tomatoes, squash, cucumbers, peppers, eggplant, pumpkin….”
The CT is category-shattering to the extent it has the exterior envelope of a traditional 1/2 ton truck with the quantitative capabilities of a 3/4 truck. That does not mean it’s a better 1/2 ton truck. But it does mean it can compete in the larger 1/2 ton market (due to size) while nonetheless being a 3/4 ton truck. Ford’s F250 can’t do that (nor would Ford do that to itself).
The Cybertruck works for most buyers in the F-150 segment, it would only work for some buyers in the F-250 segment which is why I think it is a bit disingenuous to suggest it should be compared with the latter and not the former.
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