Cybertruck 1000V Architecture + V4 Supercharging Confirmed!! ⚡️ "It's Going to be Used for Cybertruck Too" - Elon Musk

[greggertruck]

Hearing 1.7kwh per mi on semi, with future targeting down to 1.6 then 1.5…..

That means semi is about 850kwh battery.

I just wanna know cyber details already…..

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[tidmutt]

Just a thought that came to my mind today, earlier today. You can’t steal the idea Tesla because I freely give it. If the put their cars in the correct order and snap a picture we see the S3XY. If they elevate the shot and add the Semi to the end after Y it should look like S3XY! With the Semi making a very very large exclamation point.

I thought you were connecting "S3XY" and "Semi"... errr... sorry.

 

[NJturtlePower]

Correct, Semi stated during the presentations as using Plaid carbon-sleeved motors.

Runs on just one until extra power/torque is needed...crazy!

 

[RandyS]

What's funny is that the expense to install NEMA 14-50 can be more expensive than installing the HPWC. Why? NEMA 14-50 takes three conductors + ground. HPWC needs only two conductors + ground. I recommend NEMA 6-50, which only takes two conductors + ground especially if the panel is far from the installation point. With HPWC gen 3 at only $400 and mobile charger at $200 (neither included) it is not much more for HPWC these days.

There's also the requirement (if adopted by the local AHJ) in the recent edition of the NEC to require a GFCI circuit breaker in the panel for the receptacle installation, and no such requirement for the Wall Connector...That puts the cost equation on more of an even footing for both solutions, so I'd opt for the convenience and improved safety (no melted sockets) of a Wall Connector...

 

[HaulingAss]

Please see Munro video about 4680 cell evolution. They claim that latest 4680 cells used in Model Y are different than earlier ones. They called them semi solid state cells.
A solid state lithium cell could have a much higher cell voltage....
It could have very low internal resistance...
Elon said CT gets 1MW charging. They never said CT would have 1kV architecture but it would be outside NACS specs to do 1 MW charging @ 500v.
Besides if they are making 1kV invertors for Semi than using same part for CT makes sense.

I have no doubt the Cybertruck will charge at 1000V. Elon said it would. But here's the rub: The fact that V.4 chargers are capable of 1 MW of current does not imply the Cybertruck will accept the full 1 MW. It might briefly accept 800 kW for a minute or two at low states of charge before starting to taper. If it could accept the full megawatt, it would only be for seconds, not minutes.

People dreaming of a full charge in 7 minutes are not thinking clearly. That said, after owning two Model 3's for over 4 years each, I can say the speed of Supercharging is the most over-talked about metric of EV's ever. It's already quicker than most people realize (if the driver knows enough to draw the battery down to 10%-25% before charging). When I'm travelling Interstate, the car charges faster than I'm ready to hit the road again.

And having said all that, I WAS a little concerned the much larger battery and higher energy consumption/mile of the Cybertruck that it would be taking a step backward relative to the hyper-efficient and aerodynamic Model 3 when it came to Supercharging times on trips. In other words, all else being equal, a higher Wh/mile vehicle sits at a Supercharger longer than a more efficient vehicle because it needs to take on more energy to travel the same distance. This announcement eliminates those fears (at least when able to use V.4 Superchargers).

Yes, you might have 7-minute Supercharger stops in certain situations, but no, it's not going to charge from 0-100% (or even from 10-90%) in 7 minutes. It doesn't need to do that to make it better than fuelling with gasoline or diesel. Remember, when fuelling with gasoline, you stand at the pump the entire time and it seems like it takes forever. When Supercharging, you plug in and walk away. It's done before you come back in most cases and it's a much better experience.

 

[SwampNut]

I just wanna know cyber details already…..

I just wanna buy one.

 

[Marc Montgomery]

does this mean CT will charge in 30 sec?

If normal charge time is around 20 to 25 minutes, then with no efficiency loss going to 1000v, that would mean about 5 to 6 minutes to charge. There will be efficiency losses, but it should not be too bad. The truck battery is bigger, so probably 10 to 12 minutes to charge. Barely enough time to hit the restroom and get some food.

 

[greggertruck]

Exact moment that Elon confirms 1000V Architecture / V4 Supercharging for Cybertruck too

His body language, in that moment; “I don’t want to talk at all about Cybertruck”

I really feel like he was quick to move on and didn’t wanna talk about it at all yet.

They don’t wanna commit to anything.

 

[ÆCIII]

If Cybertruck does support both V2-V3 Supercharging, as well as V4 Megacharging, I'd be interested to see the Cybertruck charger port connector/layout (or layouts).

 

[HaulingAss]

*... with current battery tech.

Knock it off. Any improvements in battery tech from the best 2170 cells to current Cybertruck 4680 cells will be incremental, not revolutionary. The real advantage of 4680 will be cost to produce. Those expecting a new battery chemistry to suddenly allow 3X more capability simply don't understand how battery evolution works.

 

[HaulingAss]

I'm building a Toy Hauler Luxury conversion with 8kWatts of Solar and 112kWatts of storage specifically to "charge enough to get to a SuperCharger" with the CyberTruck

Energy storage is measured in kWh, not kW. Energy is power x time.

 

[futureproof]

Okay so, tank turn, crab steer, steer-by-wire, airless tires, electric brakes, boat mode, 1000V... what else do I seem to be missing... and what is next? DAMN fine AUTOMOBILE!!!

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[Cybertruckee]

Very excited here!

And yes, charging cable for CT is same as Semi and therefore, access, baby access.

Then the true range is 500, fully loaded.

Their probing grounds was the brutal Sparks to Donner Summit. Real life range test was Bay Area to San Diego.

I just wish they did it on that same I80 Donner Summit corridor in winter and that would be something if the range drop off is the same.

 

[CyberGus]

I was skeptical about the clutch system for disengaging the front motors. Letting the motors spin freely should have zero impact on efficiency, other than the negligible drag of friction on the gears and bearings.

However, friction leads to heat, and heat is death for the Tesla electric motors since it destroys the magnets. If they let the front motors spin, they would need thermal management as well. (This is why a Tesla should never be flat-towed.)

So, friction losses PLUS cooling losses EQUALS use a clutch. Gotcha.

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