Cybertruck 2?

[kpanda17]

There will be a refresh, but doubt it will be anytIme soon. If history is a reference point, I would say between 2028 and 2030. Of course, it really depends on the sales of the Cybertruck between now and then. If sales bottoms out, Tesla will most likely cancel the Cybertruck line up all together. They will probably spin it out to something else similar like the rumors of CyberSUV. If sales increases or stay steady, they will make some refresh on the design.

steady....we love this truck

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[kpanda17]

The cyber truck basic design with not change. Batteries, bumpers, cameras, processers, etc., yes. Like all other models Elon will squeak out every last cent from the initial cap exp design/ramp up. It's a long and expensive undertaking. Autonomy, energy, semi and optimus will be much more profitable (if successful).

Rivian, I would love for them to make it but they won't. RJ has never shown to be fiscally responsible. They will run out of OPM one day. Also, they have not diversified from vehicles.

I also want USA owned, engineered EVs to prosper
but RJ feels Enrich, Fisker like

 

[Mini2nut]

I firmly believe Rivian isn’t going to be around much longer. They are basically Fisker 2.0.

The upcoming R2 will need to be a bonafide home run for Rivian to survive. Rivian is currently a cash burning furnace.

 

[TripleB]

It's totally possible that the design ("look") was ahead of its time and become normal looking. The look seems popular oversees. Lots of future sells there, not Europe but everywhere else. They will do anything possible but change the design or stop selling them. Elon will not give up, it's not in him.

 

[gooshjkc]

steady....we love this truck

As do I.

 

[jbuijk]

I have been driving a CT now for almost a year and am towing a 30' Airstream. To increase sales, 2 things is all that will be required: Increase range and lower price.

 

[gooshjkc]

I have been driving a CT now for almost a year and am towing a 30' Airstream. To increase sales, 2 things is all that will be required: Increase range and lower price.

IMO, lowering the price is definitely will impact the sale figure. As for range, not so much. Look at GM EV trucks that’s available. They have almost twice as much range as the CT, but they aren’t flying off the dealership lots. The important aspect that will affect sales is the public perception of EVs. The mainstream media has done a great job in putting fear in the consumers heads that EVs are not good. I really don’t know what needs to be done to reverse this, but it needs to be done. With Trump cancelling EV subsides it just made EVs harder to take a bigger foothole in the US. I predict when the US sees the rest of the world moving faster and faster towards electrification of the vehicles, they will revisit it again. One thing for sure that needs to happen, take away all the subsides from oil. That one movement will make over 1 to 2 million consumers change from ICE vehicle to EV in the first year alone.

 

[Mini2nut]

Most Americans don't realize how much the US government subsidizes the oil and gas industry. In 2025 that figure is a whopping $35B.

 

[HaulingAss]

I also want USA owned, engineered EVs to prosper
but RJ feels Enrich, Fisker like

Especially after Scaringe's latest despicable deceptions, specifically, the predictions that they would be gross profitable with auto manufacturing in Q4 2024 and Q1 2025 (planting the seed that they had turned the corner on profitability) when it was 100% impossible without stuffing those two quarters ridiculously full of too many regulatory credits. And then he proceeded to stuff those two quarters with ridiculous amounts of saved up regulatory credits, and declared victory, to create the false illusion that they were on the up-and-up.

Tesla's auto manufacturing has been gross profitable going all the way back to the original Roadster (but you would never know that by the way the media continually reported that they sold every car at a loss (which was true on a net corporate profit basis, but not a gross profit basis).

I want Rivian to succeed too, but I just don't see it happening without RJ Scaringe voluntarily stepping down (which he is not going to do). He has zero success stories under his belt, he started Rivian with zero experience and his track record is abysmal. The problem is, he has set the company up such that it would take an act of God to force him out. That would be fine if he was an exceptional leader, but he is in so far over his head, it's tragic.

When shareholders complain they are selling all vehicles at large losses, he makes a false comparison to the first decade of Tesla sales (as if they are the same thing and everything is on track). Let me tell you, it's not. The R2 platform cannot save them either. They are even further behind Tesla right now then when they ramped production of the original R1T. It's sad, but I have to call a spade a spade.

 

[HaulingAss]

The upcoming R2 will need to be a bonafide home run for Rivian to survive. Rivian is currently a cash burning furnace.

The R2 will not be able to be sold profitably. It's too small and needs too expensive of a battery to get the required range to sell profitably at volume. That's because the slightly smaller R2 will have almost the same Cd on the highway, so the most expensive part of the vehicle, the battery, will be almost just as expensive (but the vehicle will be samller, less off-road capable and have a cheaper interior). RJ seems blissfully unaware of the importance of getting the battery size down, while still having acceptable range, to sell EVs profitably. It's pretty simple math that Elon understood from day one.

The real problem is Rivian sucks at the hardest part of being an automaker, actually making them. It's really hard to do efficiently. Layer on top of that RJ's continual missteps on things like selecting vehicles that are harder to make profitably so he can't ramp them to high volume and you end up where Rivian is today. No good path forward. He simply doesn't understand the business.

 

[Mini2nut]

This actually looks really cool.

I agree 100%.

Styling is subjective but I feel the photoshopped styling looks better than the current design. It makes the current styling look a bit dated. The bright outer edge of the wheel cover is a nice touch.

 

[GuyV]

I agree 100%.

I think the photoshopped styling looks better than the current exterior design. The bright outer edge of the wheel cover also looks great.

I think that's more of an Escher than something that can be built.

 

[Mini2nut]

One new bend in the SS quarter panel and one new bend in the SS door skins and walla, the refreshed 2030 Cybertruck.

 

[FlyinAndy]

Unfortunately, Tesla is currently only selling ~50k Model S, X, and CT yearly, COMBINED. There is a small chance they scrap all 3 models which makes me sad.

 

[YDR37]

Unfortunately, Tesla is currently only selling ~50k Model S, X, and CT yearly, COMBINED.

That seems about right. For the first three quarters of 2025, Tesla reported 39,208 deliveries in the "Other Models" category, which includes the S, X, and CT. The fourth quarter is expected to be weak, because many people rushed to make their AWD CT purchases in third quarter, so that they could claim the tax credit. Should finish the year somewhere around 50,000.

There is a small chance they scrap all 3 models which makes me sad.

Anything is possible, but that seems unlikely. The three models are probably generating small profits for Tesla. And Tesla currently has plenty of unused factory capacity, so does not need S/X/CT capacity for other models.

However, the low sales volume could mean that Tesla won't put much effort or expense into any future Cybertruck refreshes or redesigns. The S/X were technically refreshed in 2025, but the results were widely perceived as underwhelming.

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