Whistlindiesel Cybertruck Durability Test #2

[ABILISK]

California is laughably pathetic. Glad Tesla moved to a real state ?

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[cybercricket]

California is laughably pathetic. Glad Tesla moved to a real state ?

Traded one set of problems for another. Don't forget Tesla isn't even allowed to sell in Texas, vehicles have to be purchased online as out-of-state transactions.

 

[Crissa]

California is laughably pathetic. Glad Tesla moved to a real state ?

Weird 'move' where they didn't reduce their footprint in the state.

It was an initiative. Most things with the Prop 65 warnings are just cover-your-ass things; but Tesla is actually trying to play it straight with the spirit of the law and name the specific materials. Better to know what to wash your hands of than not, right?

-Crissa

 

[cybercricket]

Weird 'move' where they didn't reduce their footprint in the state.

Indeed, the move was symbolic.

It was an initiative. Most things with the Prop 65 warnings are just cover-your-ass things; but Tesla is actually trying to play it straight with the spirit of the law and name the specific materials. Better to know what to wash your hands of than not, right?
-Crissa

Wikipedia actually calls out the issue with it pretty accurately :

The law has also been criticized for causing "over-warning"[17] or "meaningless warnings,"[18][19][20] and this risk has been recognized by a California court.[14][21] There is no penalty for posting an unnecessary warning sign,[22] and to the extent that warnings are vague or overused, they may not communicate much information to the end user.[17] Many companies now routinely attach Prop 65 warning labels to any product of theirs that they think might possibly contain one of the 900 listed chemicals without testing to see whether the chemical is really present in their product and without reformulating their product, because it is cheaper to do so than to run the risk of being sued by Prop 65 enforcers.[1]: 1 

So now because everything has that warning, nobody pays attention to it. It achieved the exactly opposite effect of the intended one - instead of raising awareness and letting consumers chose products less harmful to their health, it instead cultivates ignorance at a cost (printed packaging, labels, extra documentation) that consumers themselves pay for.

 

[Crissa]

So now because everything has that warning, nobody pays attention to it. It achieved the exactly opposite effect of the intended one - instead of raising awareness and letting consumers chose products less harmful to their health, it instead cultivates ignorance at a cost (printed packaging, labels, extra documentation) that consumers themselves pay for.

Yep. But this was an initiative - someone got a fancy idea, and then ran with it. And it passed. But courts kinda let them start using blanket warnings and the initiative writers didn't want to choose a risk level.

It's nothing really to do with California - every state with initiatives ends up with these well-meaning but inflexible rules on their books.

-Crissa

 

[cybercricket]

Yep. But this was an initiative - someone got a fancy idea, and then ran with it. And it passed. But courts kinda let them start using blanket warnings and the initiative writers didn't want to choose a risk level.

It's nothing really to do with California - every state with initiatives ends up with these well-meaning but inflexible rules on their books.

-Crissa

What's created as an initiative can also be amended as an initiative. Lack of initiative (pun) sends a strong message.

 

[Crissa]

What's created as an initiative can also be amended as an initiative. Lack of initiative (pun) sends a strong message.

Hey, if you're willing to figure out and pay for an initiative.

The original group is spent.

-Crissa

 

[smg]

This video really makes me want to try out Baja mode.

 

[HaulingAss]

Not even close to real world use. Why give the guy views?

Because it's fun to see Cody become more impressed with the Cybertruck the more he abuses it. Based upon his entertaining "reporting", I think he's half-way to becoming a real Cybertruck fanboy!

And that's saying a lot!

 

[3cyberbeast]

This guy is a cuckold and has zero credibility. There is no smart summon for the CT at the moment either.

smart summons is not out on CT, He has the dumb summon’s.

 

[igs]

Indeed, the move was symbolic.

No longer paying CA corporation tax is a lot more than just symbolic.

 

[Crissa]

No longer paying CA corporation tax is a lot more than just symbolic.

Yeah, because they were making oh so much profit and because they have...

...oh, wait, we count profit based upon employees and production, not incorporation. Oops! Can't evade taxes.

https://www.ftb.ca.gov/file/business/types/corporations/index.html

-Crissa

 

[ToyHauler]

This guy is an idiot.

 

[sys_env]

Video is currently at 8.4m views - 1 "click" is roughly ~0.0000119% of total "clicks" - a fun fact for those not wanting to give WD a view count.

I actually appreciated the content based on the following

1. He's not a Tesla fanboy

Any praise for CT is truly earned and he genuinely praised it overall - WD is known for destroying things and CT has been discussed online for how tough it is. It was inevitable that he'd make CT content even if he comes from a more traditional ICE background

2. He's not being a hater

the criticism is a valid counter the marketing around CT

This is true for any corpo trying to sell a product, they will hype it up, up to and beyond what its actual capability is. I loved the CT video beating a Porsche while towing a Porsche. I ate that up like filet mignon. But let's be honest, it was a bit of a marketing gimmick (i.e. 1/8 mile under the right conditions, it would never actually win in a proper race like 1/4 mile or track).

The truck isn't actually bullet proof, it's not going to stop 5.56 (or .223 for the hunters) - the second most common round in the country.

So we should be open when people like WD actually do put the CT through the wringer and is transparent about the results

3. He's willing to destroy the truck

This isn't for everyone. Someone people just want to see how the towing range drops relative to weight or how does it handle transporting their kids bicycle from Walmart, etc

but if you work out on the pipeline, in construction, etc. You really want to see the upper bound of what CT can handle and how it would compare to a similar truck. Even if these tests are humorous / entertaining - someone is going to watch those "tests" and nod with approval who would have never considered the CT before

4. WD comes from truck culture (i.e. the south)

The CT is starting from a deficit being an alien looking EV and up-against a conservative culture / group of people who have loved the same thing for 50 years (1975 F-150) and largely hasn't really asked for something new like this (if it ain't broke, don't fix it)

Yet the CT has now been thrown into the ring, asking for no handicaps, no caveats, no "but only under these conditions". The best we can expect is for CT to take its licks before it can prove its the next generation of work truck

and if you believe any of that, then this video should be fun and overall net positive, although admittedly it's more fun for the younger audience

 

[s2beit]

and that wasn’t even the Beast. It was AWD! Beast would smoke F150 in tug of war or head butt, giving CT two extra points, not that I’m counting ?!

Had the beast logo on tailgate

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