Cybertruck on full self-driving (FSD) 12.5.5.3 drives us through fog, ZERO safety interventions!

[ehuna]

My latest Cybertruck FSD video, watch in 4k -



While waiting for FSD 13, here's a video of FSD 12.5.5.3 on our Cybertruck driving us through fog in the San Joaquin Valley in California.

Tesla FSD is so good, I've now added an additional video to make it more interesting - video sped up to 8x, background video and music from the movie Pulp Fiction, Vincent Vega and Mia Wallace dance to Chuck Berry's song, You Never Can Tell.

This was on Tesla supervised Full Self-Driving (FSD) v12.5.5.3 on a 2024 Foundation series AWD Cybertruck with HW4.

00:02 Our Tesla, Cybertruck drove us in fog in the San Joaquin Valley, in California, in the USA. ??
00:13 Tesla, full self-driving (FSD) v12.5.5.3 drove us using an end-to-end artificial intelligence (AI) model, both on the highway and city streets.
00:25 99% of the time, I did not touch the steering wheel, brakes, or accelerator pedals in this 25 minutes drive.
00:38 On YouTube, use "cc" to turn on captions, then use "Settings" ⛭ to set the title captions to French ??, Portuguese ??, or Hebrew ??.
00:50 Tesla FSD, can drive at night, in the rain, in the fog, and currently anywhere in the US and Canada.
01:02 Tesla FSD, can drive in large metropolis areas such as Los Angeles and New York.
01:14 Tesla FSD, can drive in smaller cities and rural areas and requires no previous pre-mapping.
01:27 Soon, you'll be able to take a nap, play video games, or watch this Pulp Fiction movie while unsupervised Tesla FSD drives you around.
01:38 Tesla, full self-driving AI saves lives, see https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport
01:50 If you, live in Europe, contact your representative and let them know you want them to allow Tesla full self-driving in your country.
02:02 Notice, how the Tesla FSD AI automatically changes lanes, passing slower cars. ?
02:13 Custom Profiles, we used the Cybertruck "Standard" profile in FSD 12.5.5.3 ?
02:26 Tesla, FSD easily merges in and out of freeways and drives in city streets.
02:38 Tesla's Mission, is to "accelerate the World's transition to sustainable energy and transportation".
02:51 A new Tesla, as of December 2024 is cheaper than a Corolla and costs as low as $33000 USD after a US federal tax credit, excluding gas savings.
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[Chris9702L]

My 12.5.5.3 is the same crapiness. Does pretty good on the highway but:
- still turns out of my neighborhood and goes in the center opposite way turn lane
- still is pitiful at stop signs
- still turns into the center lane (again an opposite turn lane on a 5 lane road)
- still can’t plan for upcoming turns. I’m in the right lane for an upcoming right hand turn. For some reason it goes into the center lane and then signals immediately to return into the right lane ?‍
Maybe they give a dumb version for us Colorado drivers ?‍

 

[Crissa]

Technically, FSD is always using mapping, so that's kind of a fib. It will try to get out of places it doesn't know but it won't do it well.

It won't take you to places that haven't been mapped, either.

-Crissa

 

[ehuna]

My 12.5.5.3 is the same crapiness. Does pretty good on the highway but:
- still turns out of my neighborhood and goes in the center opposite way turn lane
- still is pitiful at stop signs
- still turns into the center lane (again an opposite turn lane on a 5 lane road)
- still can’t plan for upcoming turns. I’m in the right lane for an upcoming right hand turn. For some reason it goes into the center lane and then signals immediately to return into the right lane ?‍
Maybe they give a dumb version for us Colorado drivers ?‍

Bummer, in California and Oregon I see it working very well, we are close to unsupervised FSD.

I hope it gets better for you. ?

 

[ehuna]

Technically, FSD is always using mapping, so that's kind of a fib. It will try to get out of places it doesn't know but it won't do it well.

It won't take you to places that haven't been mapped, either.

-Crissa

I’m more comparing it to the “HD Maps” that are needed for LIDAR based solutions - these are called “maps” but they are way more than that, with details on elevation and every object in a given route.

Tesla FSD does not need that - and for example it worked flawlessly in a private road and parking lot in Bend, Oregon, just a couple of days ago.

 

[Crissa]

I’m more comparing it to the “HD Maps” that are needed for LIDAR based solutions - these are called “maps” but they are way more than that, with details on elevation and every object in a given route.

Tesla FSD does not need that - and for example it worked flawlessly in a private road and parking lot in Bend, Oregon, just a couple of days ago.

Technically the HD maps aren't used in parking lots, either.

And Tesla does use HD maps - they're maps that include detailed lane and interchange data. While the goal is for FSD to follow signage, it also cannot yet due to bad patents (which should start expiring in 2026).

Since Tesla uses safety drivers (you, in this case), in a Level 2 configuration, of course it can do more than current Level 4 autonomy.

-Crissa

 

[Djinndjinn]

Technically the HD maps aren't used in parking lots, either.

And Tesla does use HD maps - they're maps that include detailed lane and interchange data. While the goal is for FSD to follow signage, it also cannot yet due to bad patents (which should start expiring in 2026).

Since Tesla uses safety drivers (you, in this case), in a Level 2 configuration, of course it can do more than current Level 4 autonomy.

-Crissa

Crissa - Could you please explain why the poor reading of signs is related to bad patents as opposed to bad hardware/programming? My CT still wants to go 55 in our local school zone (which has multiple physical 15 mph signs). ??

 

[ehuna]

Crissa - Could you please explain why the poor reading of signs is related to bad patents as opposed to bad hardware/programming? My CT still wants to go 55 in our local school zone (which has multiple physical 15 mph signs). ??

The reading of signs by the Tesla full self-driving (FSD) AI works great in my experience.

I’ve used it in many cities in the states of California and Oregon and it reads the speed limits and adjusts properly.

I was just on highway 97 in the Oregon high desert, from Klamath Falls to Bend, the speed changed often as we passed small towns - from 65 MPH, to 55, to 45, to 35 and then back up. ??

Tesla FSD handled it perfectly and adjusted every time - not sure why you’re trying to spread “Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt” (FUD) but it ain’t working. ?

 

[btcrealm]

I own it, I use it several days a week, I don't trust it that much, and I'm not a huge fan of it. I only hope my use of it helps train it better so that one day it WILL be worth using.

 

[rlhamil]

My 12.5.5.3 is the same crapiness. Does pretty good on the highway but:
- still turns out of my neighborhood and goes in the center opposite way turn lane
- still is pitiful at stop signs
- still turns into the center lane (again an opposite turn lane on a 5 lane road)
- still can’t plan for upcoming turns. I’m in the right lane for an upcoming right hand turn. For some reason it goes into the center lane and then signals immediately to return into the right lane ?‍
Maybe they give a dumb version for us Colorado drivers ?‍

Only recurring problems I've seen on 12.5.5.3 is with multiple left turn lanes, where it wants to cut into a more inner lane if not occupied, and with some roundabouts, where it has no clue at all. To be fair, the most recent roundabout issue was with one that was visually confusing even to me, at night.

I didn't let it do even everything it could, but it was major help with maybe 40 miles of really nasty traffic on or near northern Long Island on the 23rd. Without that help, my nerves would have been well fried.

And except for parking lots, it gets me from home to stores and restaurants I regularly go to with few to no interventions.

 

[scottf200]

While the goal is for FSD to follow signage, it also cannot yet due to bad patents (which should start expiring in 2026).

Crissa - Could you please explain why the poor reading of signs is related to bad patents as opposed to bad hardware/programming? My CT still wants to go 55 in our local school zone (which has multiple physical 15 mph signs). ??

Tesla FSD handled it perfectly and adjusted every time - not sure why you’re trying to spread “Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt” (FUD) but it ain’t working. ?

My 2016 Model X (Mobileye) could read speed limit signs.
My 2017 Model X (Tesla) could NOT read speed limit signs *until* 3-ish years later.

Tesla releases new software update to visually detect speed limit signs, and more | Electrek

Tesla has started pushing a new version of its software update to now visually detect speed limit signs and more.

For a while, there has been speculation about to what degree Tesla was using GPS data versus actual detection of speed limit signs in order to detect speed limits for its Autopilot features.

Now this new update gives us some answers.

Today, Tesla started releasing its 2020.36 software update, and it includes several new features including one called “Speed Assist Improvements.”

The automaker writes in the new 2020.36 release notes:

“Speed Assist now leverages your car’s cameras to detect speed limit signs to improve the accuracy of speed limit data on local roads. Detected speed limit signs will be displayed in the driving visualization and used to set the associated Speed Limit Warning.”

 

[ehuna]

Only recurring problems I've seen on 12.5.5.3 is with multiple left turn lanes, where it wants to cut into a more inner lane if not occupied, and with some roundabouts, where it has no clue at all. To be fair, the most recent roundabout issue was with one that was visually confusing even to me, at night.

I didn't let it do even everything it could, but it was major help with maybe 40 miles of really nasty traffic on or near northern Long Island on the 23rd. Without that help, my nerves would have been well fried.

And except for parking lots, it gets me from home to stores and restaurants I regularly go to with few to no interventions.

Nice! ?

I made a video of the Cybertruck handling a bunch of roundabouts in Bend, OR here -

 

[Djinndjinn]

This is a lot of YMMV. I live in a rural town in Pennsylvania, and I’ve had full self driving package with my model S for as many years as they’ve offered it, and now with my cyber truck, and I can tell you with certainty that it has never performed well in our town. And yes, the roads are digitized, we’re not that rural.

it is inconsistent, makes decisions that are potentially dangerous, does not follow the speed limit accurately, has problems staying in a safe corridor on unmarked Road, just to name a few. I find that in our town and surrounding towns, it’s extremely nerve-racking, and I try it at least once a week just to see, but it is really not ready for prime time in our area. I’m very happy that it works for others in other parts of the United States, but just want people to be aware that there are parts of the United States where it is dysfunctional, almost entirely on city streets.

The good news is it’s extremely helpful on the highway, so I’m very happy to use it in that venue. But right now for us, using it in town is still… Problematic. Maybe version 13 will show some probable improvement, I can always hope…

 

[rlhamil]

I made a video of the Cybertruck handling a bunch of roundabouts in Bend, OR here

Good to know it can handle a straightforward roundabout. My latest was at night, with entry only or exit only lanes coming in at odd angles, odd markings, and with a center island that wasn't very visually distinguishable (gray tile not much lighter than the pavement, barely higher than the pavement, no curb, just a slight rise). Stevensville MD off Rt 50 near Cracker Barrel*, if you're curious enough to get a street view of it on Google Maps. Doesn't look THAT bad in daylight, but in near darkness, yuck.

The roundabout before that that I didn't even let it attempt was probably under construction even with no workers or equipment nearby, and had cones all over the place.

Roundabouts are becoming more common in Maryland because of lower cost and/or less land needed and/or sometimes better throughput than a light. But Maryland drivers (and transplants from everywhere) aren't necessarily good with them yet. And I suspect that some of the implementations are not really up to best practices.

* wanted a non-self-cooked Thanksgiving dinner. There's a Cracker Barrel near me, but it's also near enough other people that the wait times are crazy on Thanksgiving. Stevensville probably sees a lot of beach traffic in the season for that and does a brisk business then, but it's enough quieter this time of year that the difference in wait time (50 minutes vs 0) nearly made up for the longer round trip. And it's a bit higher rated. Got a seat in the center facing the fireplace, nice. And they do a better job of Thanksgiving dinner than any other place I know of that you don't have to make reservations weeks in advance.

 

[rlhamil]

This is a lot of YMMV. I live in a rural town in Pennsylvania, and I’ve had full self driving package with my model S for as many years as they’ve offered it, and now with my cyber truck, and I can tell you with certainty that it has never performed well in our town. And yes, the roads are digitized, we’re not that rural.

it is inconsistent, makes decisions that are potentially dangerous, does not follow the speed limit accurately, has problems staying in a safe corridor on unmarked Road, just to name a few. I find that in our town and surrounding towns, it’s extremely nerve-racking, and I try it at least once a week just to see, but it is really not ready for prime time in our area. I’m very happy that it works for others in other parts of the United States, but just want people to be aware that there are parts of the United States where it is dysfunctional, almost entirely on city streets.

The good news is it’s extremely helpful on the highway, so I’m very happy to use it in that venue. But right now for us, using it in town is still… Problematic. Maybe version 13 will show some probable improvement, I can always hope…

Unmarked roads, or roads with nearly invisible divider marking, are problematic. Narrow roads are uncomfortable, but usually no more than if I handled them; I'm not claustrophobic standing still, but in motion, maybe a bit. I have had to keep it off a curb a time or two.

In suburban areas that are well marked, not under construction, and not presenting unusual visual challenges, IMO it's usually quite good and needs few interventions.

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