Cybertruck T-Bone accident at high speed - damage photos

[madquadbiker]

Probably a good idea to drive around on the full height setting, this CT looks to be on a low setting, is that the normal height for driving on pavement.

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[Saygmo]

Probably a good idea to drive around on the full height setting, this CT looks to be on a low setting, is that the normal height for driving on pavement.

You want to flip over? This performed perfectly, the doors absorbed the crash. And because it's so stiff and strong, the frame looks straight still, while most vehicles fold in half from side impacts.

Amazing that the ford edge (how did people get the idea it was a tacoma/tundra?) looks like it ran straight into a wall. Look at other side impact tests, and the vehicles rip right through each other.

 

[HaulingAss]

Probably a good idea to drive around on the full height setting, this CT looks to be on a low setting, is that the normal height for driving on pavement.

The lowest setting has the best driving dynamics and would also be safer in most crashes. The Cybertruck is capable of changing directions surprisingly quickly in either setting (although the low setting does make it slightly better) and that gives it an advantage over other pickups for quick accident avoidance manuvers. You barely have to move the steering wheel at all. The best accident is the one that didn't happen. Stay alert out there!

Even the low setting has over 8" of ground clearance and will be harder to scrape the ground compared to almost any car on the road. IMO, it looks better too and, of course, it's easier to get in/out of without resorting to the truck lowering every time you park.

 

[cyberj03]

In an attempt to reframe the conversation before a Reuters "journalist" picks up this thread and takes our observations without attribution - remember that part of journalism school? No? - I think about this way:

If you had to have been in one of the two vehicles involved, which would you prefer to have been in if your life depended on it?

Cyber truck!

 

[Kahpernicus]

You want to flip over? This performed perfectly, the doors absorbed the crash. And because it's so stiff and strong, the frame looks straight still, while most vehicles fold in half from side impacts.

Amazing that the ford edge (how did people get the idea it was a tacoma/tundra?) looks like it ran straight into a wall. Look at other side impact tests, and the vehicles rip right through each other.

So looking it up, there's a 2,300 lb weight difference with the edge(4500) and the ct(6800).


Side tests are tested with a ~3K lbs dummy (regardless of class).

Head on crashes are tested @ 35mph to an immovable object.


neat.

 

[easytravelman]

Is it just me, or it seems the CT did pretty poorly actually, compared to side crash tests of other Teslas and Rivian, where there is barely any penetration in such situation?

Cybertruck owner/driver was ok.

As I mentioned in my previous post, it appears that the airbag in the other vehicle did not deploy during the incident. It is concerning to consider the potential injuries that could have been sustained by passengers in the backseat of the Cybertruck, given the significant intrusion observed.

In response to a comment questioning my membership in this forum, I would like to clarify that I am an early adopter and owner of a Cybertruck, as well as a Signature X model. Additionally, I am a Starlink user and a stockholder in the company. While I am invested in these products, I maintain an objective perspective and rely on rational reasoning when discussing their merits and shortcomings.

As an early supporter, I had high expectations for the Cybertruck, which has arguably generated more hype than any other vehicle in history. However, I have already received three service bulletins and an additional adjustment, indicating that the product has encountered various issues. Furthermore, I have dedicated a significant amount of time to researching proper cleaning and maintenance techniques for the Cybertruck.

One aspect that I find particularly frustrating is the restriction placed on vehicle ownership rights. It has come to my attention that between 100 and 300 Cybertrucks have either been sold or are in the process of being sold. The consequence of this action is that the owners are being blacklisted. Considering the unprecedented demand for the Cybertruck, with over a million orders, it is perplexing that an automotive manufacturer would concern itself with a buyer's decision to sell their vehicle.

Having waited four years and being a cash buyer, I respectfully assert my right to express my opinions on this forum. Elon Musk could have provided temporary solutions, such as temporary Supercharging access, until all the promised features of the Foundation Series were made available.

Additionally, it is worth noting that when I purchased my Cybertruck a month ago, the value of the Full Self-Driving (FSD) feature was $12,000. However, it has since decreased by $4,000, and there is now an option to rent it for $99 per month. This means that I could rent FSD for ten years before breaking even on my initial cash purchase, which is not a favorable deal. It also diminishes the value of accepting the additional $20,000 Foundation package.

I would like to remind everyone that four years ago, I signed up for the Tri-Motor All-Wheel Drive Cybertruck with a 500-mile range for $69,999. I encourage my critic to approach the situation with a more balanced perspective and consider the valid concerns raised.

 

[AO-Pete]

Curious where this happened so we can get a look at the road layout, I went through the original FB post, but there's no clues there. The photos are not wide enough for any of the location services to find it with any level of confidence.

Everyone walked away from what was obviously a collision of significant speed, so both vehicles did their job. It is curious why there appears to be no airbag deployment in the Edge though.

PS I'd quite like the center screen out of the Cybertruck

 

[Saygmo]

As I mentioned in my previous post, it appears that the airbag in the other vehicle did not deploy during the incident. It is concerning to consider the potential injuries that could have been sustained by passengers in the backseat of the Cybertruck, given the significant intrusion observed.

In response to a comment questioning my membership in this forum, I would like to clarify that I am an early adopter and owner of a Cybertruck, as well as a Signature X model. Additionally, I am a Starlink user and a stockholder in the company. While I am invested in these products, I maintain an objective perspective and rely on rational reasoning when discussing their merits and shortcomings.

As an early supporter, I had high expectations for the Cybertruck, which has arguably generated more hype than any other vehicle in history. However, I have already received three service bulletins and an additional adjustment, indicating that the product has encountered various issues. Furthermore, I have dedicated a significant amount of time to researching proper cleaning and maintenance techniques for the Cybertruck.

One aspect that I find particularly frustrating is the restriction placed on vehicle ownership rights. It has come to my attention that between 100 and 300 Cybertrucks have either been sold or are in the process of being sold. The consequence of this action is that the owners are being blacklisted. Considering the unprecedented demand for the Cybertruck, with over a million orders, it is perplexing that an automotive manufacturer would concern itself with a buyer's decision to sell their vehicle.

Having waited four years and being a cash buyer, I respectfully assert my right to express my opinions on this forum. Elon Musk could have provided temporary solutions, such as temporary Supercharging access, until all the promised features of the Foundation Series were made available.

Additionally, it is worth noting that when I purchased my Cybertruck a month ago, the value of the Full Self-Driving (FSD) feature was $12,000. However, it has since decreased by $4,000, and there is now an option to rent it for $99 per month. This means that I could rent FSD for ten years before breaking even on my initial cash purchase, which is not a favorable deal. It also diminishes the value of accepting the additional $20,000 Foundation package.

I would like to remind everyone that four years ago, I signed up for the Tri-Motor All-Wheel Drive Cybertruck with a 500-mile range for $69,999. I encourage my critic to approach the situation with a more balanced perspective and consider the valid concerns raised.

Why are you assuming this? Of course the airbag went off unless the sensor was defective. You can’t see very well due to the bad quality photo, but here’s a stock edge vs the crashed one- appears the passenger bag blew up in the dash, and the steering wheel bag isn’t visible in the photo angle.

 

[CyberGus]

given the significant intrusion observed.

You and I have different definitions of "significant".

You can't outrun inertia. If the side was 2-inch plate steel, an impact would have put 100% of the energy into moving the vehicle sideways, instead of crumpling to absorb it. The occupants would get hit by the 2-inch steel plate at 50 MPH, even if it didn't bend at all.

Side-impact design must balance between energy-absorption (crumple) and energy transfer (stiffness). The side-impact airbag mitigates both.

 

[pricedm]

Building up from your post, it should be noted that amongst all car manufacturers, Tesla is the only one that has the best quality of data, not just from its telemetrics but also actual video data from the standard 8 cameras that all Tesla's (from 2016) are equipped with.

This data is the main reason why Tesla is able (and willing) to continue to improve its vehicles safety.

No other manufacturer places as much emphasis and attention on safety as Tesla. As a parent, safety is of paramount importance and I wouldn't buy any other vehicle other than Tesla simply because of this.

Exactly! Having kids is #1 reason for many of us to only own Tesla.

 

[runnerx]

I think CT did extremely well in this crash. If you look at the ditch CT picture, you can see there is a big gap between the outside panel and inside panel. so it is very likely that the impact didn't go though the insider panel. the Ford does look like it hit a wall.

 

[1Mathieu1]

Is it just me, or it seems the CT did pretty poorly actually, compared to side crash tests of other Teslas and Rivian, where there is barely any penetration in such situation?

Its you

 

[TeslaKen]

The details are in a Facebook group from KC here: Kansas City Car Spotters | It was only a matter of time | Facebook

The daughter of the owner said there was no intrusion into the cabin either in the front or rear that the doors took the punishment but didn't cave into the cabin. Owner had minor injuries from airbag deployment and shock of impact. Car is at Tesla collision center in KC, feel free to contact the individuals involved if you need more info via that Facebook thread.

Impact speed was estimated between 45-50 mph, Cybertruck withstood the punishment, the offending vehicle and it's iron block were repelled with prejudice. Cybertruck did excellent here.

 

[firsttruck]

The details are in a Facebook group from KC here: Kansas City Car Spotters | It was only a matter of time | Facebook

The daughter of the owner said there was no intrusion into the cabin either in the front or rear that the doors took the punishment but didn't cave into the cabin. Owner had minor injuries from airbag deployment and shock of impact. Car is at Tesla collision center in KC, feel free to contact the individuals involved if you need more info via that Facebook thread.

Impact speed was estimated between 45-50 mph, Cybertruck withstood the punishment, the offending vehicle and it's iron block were repelled with prejudice. Cybertruck did excellent here.

So this real world side impact crash might have involved forces about twice the standard test done by IIHS.

The extra forces are due to much higher impact speed (impact speed estimated 45-50 mph vs test 31.1 mi/h) and much higher weight ( weight of 2014 Ford Edge trim? + driver + passengers? + luggage/cargo + fuel in tank vs test 3,307 lbs )

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2014 Ford Edge
https://www.edmunds.com/ford/edge/2014/st-200492830/features-specs/

2014 Ford Edge SEL SUV Curb weight 4,052 lbs.
ford/edge Sport AWD SUV Curb weight 4,458 lbs.

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IIHS - Side Impact Crashworthiness Evaluation - Safety Side Impact Test Protocol (Ver. X)
Crash Test Protocol (Version X)
July 2017
Insurance Institute for Highway
Ruckersville, VA USA
https://www.iihs.org/media/ebc9bd1f...ings/Protocols/current/test_protocol_side.pdf


TEST CONDITIONS
Impact Configuration
Side impact crash tests consist of a stationary test vehicle struck on the driver side by a crash cart fitted
with an IIHS deformable barrier element. The 1,500 kg ( 3,307 lbs) moving deformable barrier (MDB) has an impact
velocity of 50 km/h (31.1 mi/h) and strikes the vehicle on the driver side at a 90 degree angle.

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[kpanda17]

liked the analysis guys, we see intrusion into the CT, but the doors are very thick/deep for further impact space
CT did well as we know the team at Tesla is tops, never make an unsafe vehicle

glad no injuries

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