Cybertruck water capabilities? River crossing?

[HaulingAss]

I haven't seen any testing involving taking the CT into water. Elon said it should be able to cross a river, correct?

People need to use common sense. My Tesla Model 3 will already cross a river, as long as it's not too deep or fast-flowing. It can even cross deep rivers as long they are not flowing very fast or too wide.

Elon never said the Cybertruck could cross any river. People need to use their heads and not take innocuous comments to mean something they never did.

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[CyberGus]

Elon never said the Cybertruck could cross any river. People need to use their heads and not take innocuous comments to mean something they never did.

Elon said Cybertruck could cross the channel from Padre to Boca Chica, but I’m pretty sure he was high af

 

[HaulingAss]

Elon said Cybertruck could cross the channel from Padre to Boca Chica, but I’m pretty sure he was high af

Maybe it could under the right conditions of wind, tide and currents. That doesn't mean it's advisable.

Elon speaks very factually, if something could be done, then it's possible. Would anyone use a Cybertruck for their twice daily crossing of that channel? Of course not!

This is where people need to use common sense and not inflate what Elon said into something it never meant.

 

[cvalue13]

Elon said Cybertruck could cross the channel from Padre to Boca Chica, but I’m pretty sure he was high af

c’mon man, Musk’s word is bond, twotter is an official product release channel, contents of which are enforceable contractually


How anyone could conclude otherwise is beyond me!

 

[JBee]

I don't really understand how amphibious is so unbelievable.

I mean they had amphibious VW beetles in WW2. It's really not rocket science.

According to my displacement calculations the water line should be around the height of the top of the rear bumper.

Something like this:

Most of the deep water fording the Teslas do only work well if they have enough speed so that there is water over the windscreen. Otherwise it would just float to the surface like most cars do.

Notice all the extra weight they put in this Model S Plaid to keep it underwater.

 

[KendrickMB]

If I remember correctly, Bearded Tesla Guy's video showed a gap between the bed and tailgate at the bottom. Unless they close/seal that gap in production, the bed would fill with water unfortunately.

 

[CyberGus]

I don't really understand how amphibious is so unbelievable.

I mean they had amphibious VW beetles in WW2. It's really not rocket science.

According to my displacement calculations the water line should be around the height of the top of the rear bumper.

Something like this:

Most of the deep water fording the Teslas do only work well if they have enough speed so that there is water over the windscreen. Otherwise it would just float to the surface like most cars do.

Notice all the extra weight they put in this Model S Plaid to keep it underwater.

Floating is fine, steering is problematic

 

[Crissa]

Elon said Cybertruck could cross the channel from Padre to Boca Chica, but I’m pretty sure he was high af

No, he said that would be amazing, and a cool goal to achieve. Not that it did, he implied it couldn't yet do that.

-Crissa

 

[HaulingAss]

I don't really understand how amphibious is so unbelievable.

I mean they had amphibious VW beetles in WW2. It's really not rocket science.

No one said amphibious vehicles were rocket science, in fact, the technology is well understood. But Elon didn't say the Cybertruck would be an amphibious vehicle, he said it would float, like a boat, for short distances. That doesn't make it an amphibious vehicle.

Anyone who thinks the Cybertruck will be an amphibious vehicle has quite an imagination and likes to make things up to suit their own fantasy. Let's keep it real.

 

[JBee]

He actually says it's a boat, which last time I checked is more waterproof than just amphibious.
He didn't imply anything, nor did he say float.

Then he goes on to specify what it should be able to do, which is beyond normal capability for a land only vehicle.



So I'm expecting some "amphibious" capability, because that is what that word means, being the capabilities of being both on land and water. Unlike exoskeleton.

On the other hand if it doesn't float at all, and sinks, but doesn't fill up with water and drown you, I'm happy to call it a submarine too. But hey what'ver floats your boat , mate.

amphibious
adjective
am·phib·i·ous am-ˈfi-bē-əs

1: combining two characteristics

2a: relating to or adapted for both land and water
amphibious vehicles

 

[HaulingAss]

He actually says it's a boat, which last time I checked is more waterproof than just amphibious.
He didn't imply anything, nor did he say float.

Then he goes on to specify what it should be able to do, which is beyond normal capability for a land only vehicle.



So I'm expecting some "amphibious" capability, because that is what that word means, being the capabilities of being both on land and water. Unlike exoskeleton.

On the other hand if it doesn't float at all, and sinks, but doesn't fill up with water and drown you, I'm happy to call it a submarine too. But hey what'ver floats your boat , mate.

amphibious
adjective
am·phib·i·ous am-ˈfi-bē-əs

1: combining two characteristics

2a: relating to or adapted for both land and water
amphibious vehicles

Maybe you missed it. The key word, when Elon said it could act like a boat, is "briefly".

I think reasonable people can agree that a boat or amphibious vehicle must be able to handle water more than "briefly".

Will there be a bilge pump? I'll eat my shorts if there is one. And that's pretty much the minimum it would need to be crossing water too deep to ford, as a matter of course. Sure, in an emergency, it will work better than most (or perhaps all) non-amphibious vehicles but that's a far cry from being amphibous. About its only saving grace, if the Cybertruck is only a 5-passenger vehicle, is that it wouldn't fall under Coast Guard regs for small passenger vessels in Title 46, USC § 2101 (35) because that only regulates vessels with 6 or more passengers.

It sounds like the Cybertruck will be good at driving through water. And, if it's deep enough to float, you might still have a decent chance (if the wind and currents cooperate). But I think people who think they are going to be motor boating around for pleasure, casually crossing lakes while sipping on a cold one and dangling their fishing line in to catch some lunkers, need to reset their reality and realize that is not what Elon is talking about.

 

[charliemagpie]

If it floats, then it can be a calm river, sea or lake.
If it can be perfectly safe to travel 100 metres over water,, it can go even further.. Either it can, or it can't.

Hypothetically, one could easily enter the water, and travel over the water, but the issue is finding a spot to get out.

 

[JBee]

If it floats, then it can be a calm river, sea or lake.
If it can be perfectly safe to travel 100 metres over water,, it can go even further.. Either it can, or it can't.

Hypozthetically, one could easily enter the water, and travel over the water, but the issue is finding a spot to get out.

Exactly.

I think reasonable people can agree that a boat or amphibious vehicle must be able to handle water more than "briefly".

Nobody claimed it would never sink. They said the Titanic couldn't either.
Every boat is in the process of sinking and needs a bilge pump, and for $20-30 itxs barely a big thing to purchase or throw on the lowest part of the floor.

Point is, if you watched the Model S video I posted you can see that it can even act as a temporary submarinee, likewise it will float, when new and with undamaged seals, for hours if not days or weeks.

So for all intents and purposes it is amphibious.

I remember back in the early 2000s there was a brand new Land Rover Freelander that was found bobbing around in the ocean after a week. The owner got it stuck on the beach, came back the next day and it was gone. The Coast guard found it an towed it in. They cleaned the salt water and it started 1st pop.

So I dunno if you caught my posts a while back when EM tweeted that, but I already have a waterjet propulsion design that clips onto both of the rear motor driveshafts to create forwards thrust. No clutch, or user interaction required, and barely any extra drag whilst onroad driving. You could also use a trolling motor, or a electric outboard. I even had a bunch of ideas on how to run it off the ePTO idea I had that shares the inverter/charger etc. Easy peasy.

So seeing we don't have many nude beaches here, and topless is probably not your thing either, there's really no need to eat you shorts when I cruise down the beach with my amphibious Cybertruck. In fact please leave your shorts on buddy, for all our sakes!

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[Crissa]

Something that will work briefly is not amphibious.

-Crissa

 

[HaulingAss]

Something that will work briefly is not amphibious.

-Crissa

You're absolutely right, and this shouldn't be a difficult concept! I'm appalled by the lack of knowledge displayed in this thread and the silly manner in which this subject is being treated. Putting a bilge pump in a Cybertruck does not make it a boat, and no competent mariner would be confused that it would.

It looks like we have a possible contender for the Darwin Award in the making. Stay tuned!

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