True, but then they can start work on silicon increase and that can improve energy density.
True, but range is also for people that haul and tow and for them it isn’t range anxiety but range reality.
I like that the range competition seems to be picking up a little. humans always want more for less. Maybe these battery manufacturing cost reduction milestones will eventually lead to improved range.Improvements in range are NOT JUST about the battery density.
In 3-6 years, Cybertruck range could increase due to multiple different improvements to vehicle:
more battery cells
higher energy density cells
lighter weight of vehicle
better aerodynamics
more efficient inverter ( electricity conversion from DC battery to AC motors )
more efficient motor controller
more efficient motors
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U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
2017 Tesla Model 3 Long Range, range (miles, U.S. EPA): 310
2024 Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD, range (miles, U.S. EPA): 342
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=39769&id=47908
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When I put down my $100 deposit, it was $69,999 for the tri-motor with FSD. Tesla has placed an opportunity to buy a Cybertruck in my Tesla IOS app asking me to “Start Designing” my Cybertruck. The price of the “Foundation Series” tri-motor is $120,000. That is an additional $50,000 for not much additional. I’m waiting… This gives Tesla time to fix the bugs and upgrade the batteries to the 4680s.
One huge factor you are missing is that EVs will never replace the number of ICE vehicles on the road 1:1; and that's by design. Not only will we eventually have a vast network of level 5 ride hailing cabs, but fixed storage battery systems will not be using that chemistry at all.
You do know that you are comparing two different vehicles, don't you?
False. In 2023 Tesla produced more EVs with LFP batteries than NMC. Tesla is not locked into any one battery chemistry. Also, Tesla had the best-selling car in the world, gas or electric, and most of them used LFP batteries. Now, tell me how Tesla is making a mistake.
Tesla uses LFP batteries by the millions. What the heck are you talking about? Tesla has said EVs will have different battery chemistries depending upon the design requirements of different kinds of EVs and different use cases of those EVs. In fact, current production reflects this. Not every EV needs a high energy density battery.
Not only will NMC never be the only EV battery chemistry, but it's also false that there is not enough cobalt for 1.2 billion EVs, all using NMC. The known reserves could support that, and the unknown reserves are certainly larger than the known reserves. The most common NMC batteries currently use only a fraction of the cobalt vs. a few years ago.
This kind of ridiculousness makes me wonder what kind of anti-EV interests BS you listen to. You need to become more discerning if you want to be well-informed.
Current battery technology is already so good that EVs are more viable than gas cars. But battery technology will never stay still, it will continue to improve, both in energy density and, more importantly, with lower cost per kWh. It's not going out on a limb to say it is certain the technology will continue to get better and cheaper, we know it will.
The Model Y has different variants with a variety of ranges, depending upon the markets they are sold, the battery chemistry used, and different sized packs to fill different price points. Many of them have EPA ranges under 300 miles.
Tesla already has batteries that go half a million miles. A million miles doesn't move the needle much considering most cars will be sacked out or crashed by half a million miles.
But the actual price will likely never hit 49k. If you order now it's 79 then you add the foundation series. The dream of the 49k dual motor died. At least for a few years. I was a day 1 res too and am holding out. But it won't be for 49k or 79k beast.
If you aren't satisfied with the price, you can get a refund of your deposit.
Towing. I love my CT, but when I'm towing my cargo trailer with my 4-wheeler and camp gear, I have to admit that I'd appreciate whatever additional range might be possible.
