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[dalton108]

This entire event can be avoided if people commit to being less fragile emotionally. We need to stop the whole "outrage porn" addiction that is plaguing the planet.

Elon clearly didn't get on a f***** stage in front of an international audience and throw up a hot Roman. To even try to make this a thing is patently absurd.

Cannot imagine you would take this stance as a parent or a teacher if a child did this in your home/classroom. If this is truly your level of discernment then I can tell you right now, my friend middle schoolers (which is about where this guy‘s social development stopped), would walk all over you!

Imagine being this forgiving of a grown ass man who should know better, could know better, does know better and could simply apologize and say that I didn’t mean it that way if he wanted to. If the guy went to Auschwitz and still thinks that this is OK and that trolling is the right response - then Houston we have a bigger problem than we thought.

Anyway, as I was saying stainless steel is freaking awesome!!!

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[SCTesla]

This entire event can be avoided if people commit to being less fragile emotionally. We need to stop the whole "outrage porn" addiction that is plaguing the planet.

Elon clearly didn't get on a f***** stage in front of an international audience and throw up a hot Roman. To even try to make this a thing is patently absurd.

Elon got on stage and made a terribly dumb mistake. Instead of owning up to it and apologizing for the optics he's blamed it on Autism (odd as fuck) and made fun of it with Nazi puns (trolling).

He did something that would get 99% of people fired for doing at work or at home if filmed.

Some are angry....others think he's a moron...you think it's fine.

IMO your take is as bad as those thining he's a Nazi, but none of our arguments will change any opinions.

Also, Tesla has no plans on a SS vehicle outside of the CT.

 

[BannedByTMC]

Elon knew exactly what he was doing and how it would be interpreted. He loves to troll and shitpost, this was a live version of that. "Giving his heart" was just to provide some plausible deniability for those who constantly feel the need to sane wash his worst antics. Funny how actual nazzties and "supremacists" saw it as a full on "Roman", same as those who were offended by the gestures. Only the loyal Elon apologists saw it otherwise.

 

[HaulingAss]

This entire event can be avoided if people commit to being less fragile emotionally. We need to stop the whole "outrage porn" addiction that is plaguing the planet.

Elon clearly didn't get on a f***** stage in front of an international audience and throw up a hot Roman. To even try to make this a thing is patently absurd.

Exactly. I feel sad for people like this, especially the ones that continue to push the narrative that this is something worth talking about. It's nothing but a blatant attempt to discredit the man doing the most to remove us from our fossil addiction and teach other companies how to make better products for less.

The good thing that's come out of Elon's innocuous hand gesture is that it makes it easy to tell who is standing on the side of free speech and truth, and who is on the dark side, trying to discredit Elon over absolutely nothing.

 

[GuyV]

Exactly. I feel sad for people like this, especially the ones that continue to push the narrative that this is something worth talking about. It's nothing but a blatant attempt to discredit the man doing the most to remove us from our fossil addiction and teach other companies how to make better products for less.

The good thing that's come out of Elon's innocuous hand gesture is that it makes it easy to tell who is standing on the side of free speech and truth, and who is on the dark side, trying to discredit Elon over absolutely nothing.

It was not innocuous. It was internationally offensive. Instead of apologizing he resorted to sick nazi humor. Now "swatztikars" is a popular meme.

He got that gesture from somewhere, where might that be? Would you make it? If it gave grievous offense would you apologize?

 

[HaulingAss]

It was not innocuous. It was internationally offensive. Instead of apologizing he resorted to sick nazi humor. Now "swatztikars" is a popular meme.

He got that gesture from somewhere, where might that be? Would you make it? If it gave grievous offense would you apologize?

No, I would never apologize for triggering overly sensitive people who are just waiting for something to trigger them. I refuse to spend time apologizing to people who get a thrill out of being offended by just about anything. If they want to be offended, that's on them.

 

[SlegMD]

Imagine a world where EM sycophants didn’t have to have to apologize for EM

 

[BannedByTMC]

And to your point "by what magic", is actually kind of funny... because these devices are modern magic by all accounts. Let me list the amount of sensor packages on a modern cell phone:

And not a single one of those provides the "magic" needed to do what I described in the post to which you replied.

 

[HaulingAss]

My Jewish friends are turned off by how woke people are trying to turn Elon's innocent hand gesture into something it never was. It's disgusting the way people try to use this terrible part of history to attack their enemies. As if the holocaust is their personal weapon to turn on others. And the transparency of the people doing this exposes just how blind they are to reality. They think no one can see what they are doing. Just sad what people will stoop to these days.

 

[BannedByTMC]

Tesla (TSLA.O), posted lower sales across five European countries in January, including the United Kingdom and France, as competitors with newer models gained on the electric vehicle maker and polls show public opinion souring on CEO Elon Musk.

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...ump-five-european-markets-january-2025-02-04/

 

[SCTesla]

My Jewish friends are turned off by how woke people are trying to turn Elon's innocent hand gesture into something it never was. It's disgusting the way people try to use this terrible part of history to attack their enemies. As if the holocaust is their personal weapon to turn on others. And the transparency of the people doing this exposes just how blind they are to reality. They think no one can see what they are doing. Just sad what people will stoop to these days.

The Jewish community is as split on this as anyone else, publicly.

There are some saying it was a Nazi salute, some saying it was nothing, but most...like most of the rational people in the world say it was a terrible look, but don't want to assign intent. My opinion aligns with the one below:

"Well, it certainly looked bad. I can't speculate as to what his intent was and I think it's important to separate intent versus impact here."

"It looked really bad to a lot of us in the Jewish community. And it was being celebrated by white nationalist groups,"

Tyler Gregory, CEO Jewish Community Relations Council

Again, only the extremes are saying it was absolutely nothing or that it was absolutely a Nazi salute.

It does seem most of the Jewish community, even those that dismissed the original action are against Elon's Nazi jokes on X.

 

[dalton108]

The Jewish community is as split on this as anyone else, publicly.

There are some saying it was a Nazi salute, some saying it was nothing, but most...like most of the rational people in the world say it was a terrible look, but don't want to assign intent. My opinion aligns with the one below:

"Well, it certainly looked bad. I can't speculate as to what his intent was and I think it's important to separate intent versus impact here."

"It looked really bad to a lot of us in the Jewish community. And it was being celebrated by white nationalist groups,"

Tyler Gregory, CEO Jewish Community Relations Council

Again, only the extremes are saying it was absolutely nothing or that it was absolutely a Nazi salute.

It does seem most of the Jewish community, even those that dismissed the original action are against Elon's Nazi jokes on X.

I agree with this. To provide just a bit of clarity my position is not that Elon is a Nazi I have no idea as you know what is inside his brain nor does anybody else. But hand gestures are objective (we can see them we can measure the thrusting speed, angles etc.) I could have half a dozen reconstruction/human factors engineering guys working on it within the hour. And, while we can debate what he meant we cannot debate what he did - imo.

Add relevant context about what he’s been preaching to Germans and long-term friends who have offered their opinion and the fact that this gesture was repeated twice and (all that that implies), family history, notoriously racially toxic environment in Fremont and a picture starts to develop that’s hard to ignore. But we’ve got some people working real hard to do so.

 

[REM]

I couldn't imagine being so fragile that a "i throw my heart out to you" gesture is blown so far out of context and proportion that it becomes an international topic for weeks with people foaming at the mouth.

We have an faux outrage problem for sure. And this happens because people get bored and have to invent ways to occupy their time.

And not a single one of those provides the "magic" needed to do what I described in the post to which you replied.

I don't even know what you are trying to say here.

 

[HaulingAss]

It does seem most of the Jewish community, even those that dismissed the original action are against Elon's Nazi jokes on X.

I think Catholic jokes are usually better.

But Irish jokes can be even funnier.

The best entertainment is watching the reactions of those who can't take a joke, they get all serious as if humans are not allowed to have humor. They are generally not even the brunt of the joke, they pretend like they are superior morally, because they are defending other people who they feel superior to. Because they have no sense of humor.

It's just sickening what things have become. I hope Elon can turn it around and bring humor back to social discourse and stamping out all the easily offended.

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