Deal on powershare bundle

[AverageJoe]

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[kpanda17]

Brings to mind questions or assumptions:

They will never get PowerShare/CT and PowerWall 3s to work together.

They have a large inventory of un purchased PowerShare bundles.

They anticipate much lower cybertruck and PowerShare take rate.

People are jerryrigging (not that guy) dirt cheap CT battery to house with main cutoff using the 14-50 to handle blackouts.

or all of the above

what did I miss?

btw, anyone using PowerShare and consider it a value investment?

 

[mikeg112]

I really wanted the PowerShare to work but with $4k quoted for installation and no battery backup unless you opt in for a $17k powerwall option, I opted to go with a Ecoflow delta pro ultra, for $5k they have a inverter, battery and smart home panel that backs up the entire home, solar ready option and allows me enough time to plug in the CT as a generator so I can charge the battery and power the house in case of a blackout

 

[rbalkun]

I love my PowerShare system, transformer blew and half my town lost power when it was 98 degrees, all my neighbors were packing to stay with family and I was chilling with my ac keeping my house at 68 with days of power…barely knew I even lost power because it only took a second or two to switch over.

 

[mongo]

I really wanted the PowerShare to work but with $4k quoted for installation and no battery backup unless you opt in for a $17k powerwall option, I opted to go with a Ecoflow delta pro ultra, for $5k they have a inverter, battery and smart home panel that backs up the entire home, solar ready option and allows me enough time to plug in the CT as a generator so I can charge the battery and power the house in case of a blackout

Powerwall replaces Powershare.
Cybertruck will eventually work with Powerwall and only require a Wall Connector on the backed up side of things.

The Ecoflow is a nice looking setup, and so expandable.

 

[eswimm]

btw, anyone using PowerShare and consider it a value investment?

My install was cheap ($2,400) and my only other backup is a portable generator. So it's been convenient for the few failures we've had since. Will be a pain if I move though, since I'll have to decide if I remove it or leave it; especially if the gateway ever becomes unavailable.

 

[Griswold]

My install was cheap ($2,400) and my only other backup is a portable generator. So it's been convenient for the few failures we've had since. Will be a pain if I move though, since I'll have to decide if I remove it or leave it; especially if the gateway ever becomes unavailable.

How'd you get it for that price?

 

[eswimm]

How'd you get it for that price?

Main breaker separation install, cheapest of the options.

Gateway backs up an entire 200A panel, replaced an existing Gen 2 wall connector, so only needed to add the communications wire. And the supplemental work was to move the 20A circuit for my fridge from my 2nd 200A panel to the one being backed up.

 

[Qixer01]

I really wanted the PowerShare to work but with $4k quoted for installation and no battery backup unless you opt in for a $17k powerwall option, I opted to go with a Ecoflow delta pro ultra, for $5k they have a inverter, battery and smart home panel that backs up the entire home, solar ready option and allows me enough time to plug in the CT as a generator so I can charge the battery and power the house in case of a blackout

I have been looking more into the whole home battery backup. Even for use as a charge anywhere option, not necessarily a range extender.

 

[CapheDa]

I love my PowerShare system, transformer blew and half my town lost power when it was 98 degrees, all my neighbors were packing to stay with family and I was chilling with my ac keeping my house at 68 with days of power…barely knew I even lost power because it only took a second or two to switch over.

None of the three electricians that quoted my Powerwall installation would put the AC on the backed up panel so I opted out. Without AC it didn’t make sense to me.

 

[JimBuck333]

Brings to mind questions or assumptions:

They will never get PowerShare/CT and PowerWall 3s to work together.

They have a large inventory of un purchased PowerShare bundles.

They anticipate much lower cybertruck and PowerShare take rate.

People are jerryrigging (not that guy) dirt cheap CT battery to house with main cutoff using the 14-50 to handle blackouts.

or all of the above

what did I miss?

btw, anyone using PowerShare and consider it a value investment?

I have the PowerShare installed. What actually IS nice is that it integrates fine with pre-existing solar, whereas the solar previously de-activated when the utility power went down, which was exactly the wrong time to lose that power. The NEMA 14-50 solution might work too with solar, or not, but would require either a manual cutover back to utility power, bringing the truck power and, especially, the solar power all the way down first (else a phase mismatch), or to automate everything, it would require circuitry on par with the PowerShare units anyway.

In that way it is money pretty well spent.

 

[mongo]

I have the PowerShare installed. What actually IS nice is that it integrates fine with pre-existing solar, whereas the solar previously de-activated when the utility power went down, which was exactly the wrong time to lose that power. The NEMA 14-50 solution might work too with solar, or not, but would require either a manual cutover back to utility power, bringing the truck power and, especially, the solar power all the way down first (else a phase mismatch), or to automate everything, it would require circuitry on par with the PowerShare units anyway.

In that way it is money pretty well spent.

14-50 and solar probably wouldn't get along. Bed outlet would be fixed frequency likely without power import capability.

 

[CG Cowboy]

My Powershare system has worked extremely well and I would do it again. My installation was only $1,600 so that made a difference. It has saved me multiple times with extended outages in my area. The only thing I would like to improve is the failover. This is a brief outage (a few seconds) before it kicks in but I have a small UPS system on my router so the internet modem doesn't have to spend 10 mins resetting.

 

[DrShah]

I really wanted the PowerShare to work but with $4k quoted for installation and no battery backup unless you opt in for a $17k powerwall option, I opted to go with a Ecoflow delta pro ultra, for $5k they have a inverter, battery and smart home panel that backs up the entire home, solar ready option and allows me enough time to plug in the CT as a generator so I can charge the battery and power the house in case of a blackout

I paid 10k to install Powershare, plus paid $2500 for the Gateway, I got 2 free universal wall connectors from referrals.

 

[EMoeller]

I started install on my PowerShare last year. I had an older 150 amp box and upgraded to 200 amp. I also had/still have a backup generator (live rurally so frequent outages), a hot tub, but no AC. Normal daily draw is 3-5 Kwh without truck charging. Install cost was $8400 (SF Bay area rates are very high and this does NOT include the Tesla equipment that came with my Beast, but does not include the $780 PG&E fees for the power line), I was happy with my installer (we both learned throughout the process).

The system had some glitches (I think mostly on the Tesla side) but the system has reliably worked through many outages (from minutes to days).

Main issues were permits (it was all new and nobody knew how this worked), so long times before things got done. These included local, county, power company (PG&E) inspections. Once installed (and that took several trips to address various issues, including a Fire Dept requirement that a separate e-stop be installed for them to cut off power from my Beast if they had a fire) it worked fine (both in testing and real world)

So now more than a year later the system works, but I am still waiting on PG&E to finalize their line replacement, which was scheduled months ago.

Do I consider it a good "investment"? - because of the frequent outages here, yes It has worked many times. As for the costs - because I had upgraded my main panel and some wiring, and given the electrical contractor rates in my area (they had to drive more than 30 miles each way, each time), yes I feel that that was reasonable (shout out to Wells Electrical, Inc.)

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