Do you think Tesla should honor original reservation price?

[cvalue13]

You could laugh. But it is natural that everyone has his/her own opinion to the price and will take action differently. Let me quote ChatGPT

“The language you provided suggests that the pre-order price is an estimate and is subject to change based on the final configuration. However, a 50% increase could be considered unreasonable, and it's advisable to carefully review the terms and conditions of the agreement. If you have concerns, consider seeking legal advice or contacting the company for clarification before proceeding.”

maybe ChatGPT also sounds NAIVE to you?

further it says:

“
As a lawyer representing the consumer, I would emphasize the principle of good faith and fair dealing in contractual relationships. I would argue that the consumer entered into the pre-order agreement with the understanding that the provided price was an estimate based on the information available at the time. However, a 50% increase might be seen as disproportionate and could be considered a breach of the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing.

I would also scrutinize the terms of the agreement to determine if there are any provisions that limit the extent of price adjustments or if there are any conditions that must be met for such adjustments to be valid. Additionally, I might explore consumer protection laws and regulations to assess whether the proposed increase could be deemed unfair or deceptive.

Ultimately, the goal would be to negotiate with the company for a reasonable resolution, emphasizing the consumer's reliance on the initial price estimate and the expectation of fair dealing in the transaction. If necessary, legal action may be considered as a last resort.”

perhaps you should provide your prompt thst generated this specific response

otherwise, generally, don’t take legal advice from ChatGPT (it notoriously knows nothing on the subject)

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[tmeyer3]

I'm not sure if you're just trolling or serious.

If you're serious, by all means, file a request for legal action. It won't work, but please try anyway. Let us know how it goes. No one here will financially back you.

 

[cpj431]

I'm not sure if you're just trolling or serious.

If you're serious, by all means, file a request for legal action. It won't work, but please try anyway. Let us know how it goes. No one here will financially back you.

Not trolling. I’m actually curious why you are so sure that everyone else on this forum is aligned with your on this topic? Speak for yourself is perfectly fine though.

 

[cpj431]

perhaps you should provide your prompt thst generated this specific response

otherwise, generally, don’t take legal advice from ChatGPT (it notoriously knows nothing on the subject)

Sure. It is simply:

“If a company provide a preordering price and in the order agreement it says “The pre-order price of the Vehicle will be confirmed in your Vehicle Configuration and Final Price Sheet. As you may have only configured part of your Vehicle, any pre-order price provided to you in advance of the Final Price Sheet is only being offered to you as an es?mate and is subject to change. “ Could the company later increase the price by 50%?”

and

“If you are a lawyer representing the consumer in this scenario, how would you argue that the company should honor the pre-order price”

try it yourself? I didn’t provide any context though. And thanks, I don’t mean it could replace lawyer. But it is a good source for common sense, which is a good start.

 

[tmeyer3]

Not trolling. I’m actually curious why you are so sure that everyone else on this forum is aligned with your on this topic? Speak for yourself is perfectly fine though.

Ok, I'm done. GL

 

[wanders]

I’m surprised that not many people are asking this question in this forum. I don’t think it is simply a demand/supply problem. Listing your currently available product for any price you’d like is one thing. Creating demand/trend/marketing effects with inaccurate pre-ordering price and not to honor it or at least partially compensate customers is another thing. Now Tesla is luring me with the foundation series order but I’m not going to accept it. If officially the product arrives and the price is not the original pre-order price then I’m ready to participate the class action against Tesla.

lol! lmao

There's nothing binding about your pre-order deposit of $100. Chill out.

 

[android04]

No, the unveil prices were not promised. That was what Tesla expected the prices to be when they started making and selling the Cybertruck. If you know anything about Tesla history with all of their vehicles, you know that they unveil them years before they actually make them and things change in that time.

 

[rizvend]

Oh good lord. Stop fishing for a class action lawsuit. Tesla has enough unnecessary problems.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Thanks. I actually missed this line. But since it says it is an estimate, it should still bearing some weight. I personally don’t think it could be increased by 60% percents.

Not liking it (many people here don’t), or not thinking it is fair, doesn’t change the fact that these are the prices as they are at the present. A lot of people were surprised at the price increase but at the end of the day one must acknowledge that these prices are in line with other manufacturers prices and that the cybertruck offers significant value.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Whether the company is acting lawfully is not determined by itself or its stockholder correct?

The company is acting lawfully without question. This is about your feelings and desires; not about what Tesla did.

 

[cpj431]

lol! lmao

There's nothing binding about your pre-order deposit of $100. Chill out.

Oh good lord. Stop fishing for a class action lawsuit. Tesla has enough unnecessary problems.

You could see the file you received is named “order agreement” correct? If it give you certain binding, it gives Tesla too.

I am not sure why some people acts like they are purely stock holders not customers. First not every one here owns enough Tesla stock to offset the 60% price increase. Second if it is some problem that could cause Tesla price stock drop, Tesla’s behavior is worthy of concern, to say at least.

It is also irrelevant if the preorder money is $100, $1000 or $1. The agreement and preorder price exists.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

You could see the file you received is named “order agreement” correct? If it give you certain binding, it gives Tesla too.

I am not sure why some people acts like they are purely stock holders not customers. First not every one here owns enough Tesla stock to offset the 60% price increase. Second if it is some problem that could cause Tesla price stock drop, Tesla’s behavior is worthy of concern, to say at least.

It is also irrelevant if the preorder money is $100, $1000 or $1. The agreement and preorder price exists.

I feel your pain. Don’t misunderstand me (or, should I say, don’t let me miscommunicate), the price increase and range reduction were a shock for me; I just don’t think that you/we have a legal leg to stand on. So let’s move on!

 

[rizvend]

You could see the file you received is named “order agreement” correct? If it give you certain binding, it gives Tesla too.

I am not sure why some people acts like they are purely stock holders not customers. First not every one here owns enough Tesla stock to offset the 60% price increase. Second if it is some problem that could cause Tesla price stock drop, Tesla’s behavior is worthy of concern, to say at least.

It is also irrelevant if the preorder money is $100, $1000 or $1. The agreement and preorder price exists.

Excuse me? Being an investor has nothing to do with it. Negativity and lawsuit mongering people are what takes time and expense of any company's efforts to bring a good product to market. Time to rethink that "woe is me" victim-playing attitude.

 

[Misterbee]

Sure, let’s talk about things that are *never* going to happen.

BTW, “should“ is an @sshole.

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