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Why is breaking ice preferable to melting it? I'm still a little lost on this idea.
It's faster.

Remember, that one trying to get to work on time.

Taking a few minutes to heat the area around the door from -20C to +5C is going to make you late to work.

A solid yank on a sturdy handle only takes a moment, and gets the job done.

Window defrosters are a problem, too. Many people won't wait for the windshield to fully defrost, which is a safety problem -- and they shouldn't do that. But, with most cars, you need to get the door open before you can even *start* defogging the windows. Some cars have remote-start, which helps -- but the times I've tried that, defogging the windows doesn't thaw the doors.

Maybe Tesla will be the first to thaw the doors with a combination of a door-seal-defroster and remote start? I've never seen that work in a real-life vehicle before. Sure would be nice if it worked, though.

As the enthusiast forum, we can help the engineers by raising these issues. Hopefully a few of them check up on us from time to time.





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One of the problems with melting is that the water has to go somewhere.

If it's truly cold outside the vehicle, the water will just move a little and then re-freeze. It may not even leave the door seal (or flow up into other spaces).

Taking a few minutes to heat the area around the door from -20C to +5C is going to make you late to work.
With a Tesla, you tell it when to be ready to leave by. It takes care of charging, pre-heating, pre-defrosting.

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As the enthusiast forum, we can help the engineers by raising these issues. Hopefully a few of them check up on us from time to time.
They definitely do check these forums. I don't work for Tesla but I design vehicles and I check public and private forums related to the vehicles I design. On occasion I find reccuring complaints or requests for improvements and will implement them when I can or roll them into larger project scopes.
 
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Using cabin heater, even with preheating will likely not worknat -40c. luckily at those temps the air is usually dry and is less often an issue. I hope Tesla engineers design all openings with this in mind.
 

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Probably no self opening and closing feature. $$$$

The door unlatches and "pops" open partially. Then you open it, sit, and close the door manually.
I think you are right. Push and click, pop open. Push closed, click and lock like cabinet doors, but with a security feature obviously. Then again, what do I know?
 

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It's that sense of belonging.

I never belonged in my rural home town, despite trying really hard.

I never belonged in McMansion / office-park scene, even though I can afford it.

In a college town full of nerds from lands far and near, though, I found My People!

People with a different mentality (including several family members) seem to be happy in places where I will forever be a guest-at-best. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I for one, am in the Keep It Simple Stupid camp. Who want's to take a Faberge Egg off-roading or even onto construction sites!
BTW, Elon calls the Model X a Faberge Egg.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/30/elon-musk-says-the-tesla-model-x-is-the-faberge-egg-of-cars.html
My Landrover Discovery was like tiptoeing through desert — in high heels! Never anything less than Rubicon-capable vehicle offroad again.

Just this weekend a Nissan crosstrek cleared a trench thanks to the stiffness of its chassis. A ladder frame chassis would have dropped into that hole and stuck. Crosstrek floated above it with the remaining three wheels on terra firma. I was surprised at the outcome.
 

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As someone who regularly took an 80s Honda Civic off-road, I find all this 'must be tough!' hilarious. And I have a friend who does all his farm errands in a Model X, so...

Of course, the Cybertruck will be more far capable.

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As someone who regularly took an 80s Honda Civic off-road, I find all this 'must be tough!' hilarious. And I have a friend who does all his farm errands in a Model X, so...

Of course, the Cybertruck will be more far capable.

-Crissa
Yup,yup, most "off roading" I see people doing is slightly rough dirt roads, I smashed around in an old mustang(i wanted to build a rally 67mustang at one point) even a miata to public lands and decently gouged roads.

Of course for real off roading with large rocks and deeper mud/water you need 4wd and clearance, CT will be great...Although it is large and very heavy :(
 

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As someone who regularly took an 80s Honda Civic off-road, I find all this 'must be tough!' hilarious. And I have a friend who does all his farm errands in a Model X, so...

Of course, the Cybertruck will be more far capable.

-Crissa
And I regularly took my 1980 Subaru 4x4 wagon 4 wheeling on the power lines, state forests, etc. It had the cylops light behind the grill emblem...... I was so excited when I got that working again!

I put a 1800cc engine and dual range transmission in that car, light racks front and rear, beefed up the suspension, big(ger) tires. The truck guys were always amazed, and probably annoyed, at where that little car could go.

Not my car, but same color and wheels. Mine had a roof rack system on top, too.

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And I regularly took my 1980 Subaru 4x4 wagon 4 wheeling on the power lines, state forests, etc. It had the cylops light behind the grill emblem...... I was so excited when I got that working again!

I put a 1800cc engine and dual range transmission in that car, light racks front and rear, beefed up the suspension, big(ger) tires. The truck guys were always amazed, and probably annoyed, at where that little car could go.

Not my car, but same color and wheels. Mine had a roof rack system on top, too.

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After success with ‘76 &’78 Subaru wagons, my father bought the new big body ‘81 Subaru wagon. It needed a bigger engine. His never ran right due to carburetor emissions and Subaru inability to overcome its problem complying in CA.

Sportwagons are a really versatile form factor. After the Subaru’s I would go on to buy a VW Sportwagon diesel w/DSG. Fabulous transmission behind a diesel. VW detuned the DSG behind its gas engines in its EOS which were a POS.

Hoping Tesla CT brings back the fun, thrill and vesatility of olden times!
 

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