Homelink in Foundation Series

[L3it3R]

I have both the Homelink and MyQ - had the Homelink installed in my 3 before the MyQ integration was available. Now I only use the MyQ. It's worth it IMO.

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[Dazureus]

Thank you for the response. At first I thought you were talking about Google Assistant but then I saw HomeAssistent [URL] is a DIY/open_source setup.

So in general all garage door openers work with HomeLink and many now-a-days have MyQ integration. Is there only a MyQ subscription or does Liftmaster also have a subscription. Getting hard for me to tell if they are one??? So annoying.

Is saw this from a google search (LLM-Generative AI is experimental.):

A monthly subscription fee of $1 or an annual subscription fee of $10 is required to link a myQ account to Google Assistant and/or IFTTT for the Liftmaster 8500.​

Wonder if it'd be worth $2 (12-10) to use a CC monthly $1 fee and have them get charge $0.50 (minimum) and 'stick-it-to-the-man' LOL.

Re: MyQ doesn't operate locally so if your internet goes down, you can't use it.
Meaning you have to manually press a keypad on the outside of your garage
OR you a button on the inside of your garage (ie. go in a human door to get there)???

Seems all IoT devices talk to the 'cloud' so you can operate them outside your house.
Aside: many IoT devices seem to have a wifi-service built into them so your phone can wifi connect directly to them during setup tho.
Aside2: Seemed my Roomba setup started off with direct-connect WiFi but then switched to Bluetooth (link confirming).

Liftmaster doesn't have the login, it's a MyQ login. It's all handled on a phone app. The website login redirects you to the MyQ app. If you're only using the MyQ app, then there's no subscription. From what I'm reading, the MyQ controls are IoT only and don't operate locally on Wifi (e.g. Internet down, but wifi up and phone connected to local network). I haven't experimented with it on my system, so yeah, if you have spotty internet service and only have MyQ in your Tesla, then you should carry the regular remote, have an external garage door keypad installed, or have your normal run-of-the-mill garage door wall button. Seems like MyQ either wants you to use their app, or pay a subscription service to use a third party interface. I can see my garage door status in my Control4 app, but I'm not paying a separate MyQ subscription so it might be baked into my annual Control4 subscription fee.

There are other ways to integrate any garage door opener into HomeAssistant, but none are integrated into Tesla, so you would need to pull your phone out, or program a wifi smart button to use it.

 

[StarkNaked]

Uh no I am not carrying around a couple of old fashioned remote controls because Tesla cannot offer basic features, but there is no way that would be that foolish in on a $100k vehicle.

Would love to see some actual information. Hopefully the owners manual gets posted soon.

A video of manual has been posted. In that vide, at around 10:38, you can see the Connectivity index of the manual. On other models, there is a section in Connectivity titled Smart Garage where myQ and Homelink appear. For the Cybertruck, there is no such section.

Like many have noted, my issue is gate control. I have three Teslas now and all are setup with Homelink for the gate. Best thing ever, as I drive up - gate opens. MyQ will not work for this gate. I suppose it's no different than my 2005 F-250 on which I have a remote on visor and push button.

Post with video of manual: https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ecs-info-dump-💡-video-form-screenshots.11290/

 

[fdon1]

A video of manual has been posted. In that vide, at around 10:38, you can see the Connectivity index of the manual. On other models, there is a section in Connectivity titled Smart Garage where myQ and Homelink appear. For the Cybertruck, there is no such section.

Like many have noted, my issue is gate control. I have three Teslas now and all are setup with Homelink for the gate. Best thing ever, as I drive up - gate opens. MyQ will not work for this gate. I suppose it's no different than my 2005 F-250 on which I have a remote on visor and push button.

Post with video of manual: https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/cybertruck-owners-manual-specs-info-dump--video-form-screenshots.11290/

You dont have a problem, you have gates. But seriously, looking into getting some sort of geofencing through maybe a zwave or zigbee device/hub.

 

[D101010]

I do hope they support HomeLink on the CT it may the 48v that is the issue. MyQ is a dumpster fire. I have had constant problems with them, and I am never buying another opener with MyQ.

 

[Woodrick]

I do hope they support HomeLink on the CT it may the 48v that is the issue. MyQ is a dumpster fire. I have had constant problems with them, and I am never buying another opener with MyQ.

I have a heavy suspicion that it isn't implemented. The reason is not the 48V, downconverter, that's easy. It's more along the lines that they have just moved on from it. They included it in the First Model 3s, but by the time the Model Y came along, it was only an option.
I think that they have found the MyQ is easier for them to implement. I'm sure that the number of problems that they had with people pairing their doors was an issue as well.
That's the one thing that Tesla really can't fix without being at your house.

 

[AlphaG]

There is no reason to move on from homelink. That’s just stupid. Millions of garage doors and gates are controllable by an existing standard. Any decent car comes with homelink or a homelink option. Pretty dissapointed in this if they don’t at least offer an option for the CT!

 

[LexusCyber]

Adjustable steering wheels aren''t really intended to be adjust for your viewing pleasure.
Where I set mine, the wheel often is directly over the speedometer. I've driven a lot of rental in the last 20 years and just about everyone is problematic for me.

But then again, I've got a Model 3 and a Model Y and soon to have Cybertruck, I'm happy.

does the cybertruck have an adjustable steering column? it has to, right?

 

[EncoreJEG]

does the cybertruck have an adjustable steering column? it has to, right?

Yes, Cybertruck steering wheel column is adjustable!

 

[Cybertruck26]

For those that placed a FS order: Does the Foundation Series CT come with Homelink?

Negative, just Chamberlain MyQ, which requires a subscription and a device that is networked and acts as like an IR blaster for your garage door opener.

 

[D101010]

I have had more thoughts about HomeLink.


Here are reasons that that is not a good solution and Tesla should consider making this an option on the CT.

1. Home security. Having a remote system like MyQ has the ability to unlock my house is not desirable. Yes, someone could hijack rolling code, but they need close connectivity when using.
2. It requires internet connectivity. I have used MyQ about 3 years before I bought my tesla. I always used the built in HomeLink in my cars, but I used MyQ when I was doing yard work or in another car. So, the MyQ was not used much, but I had 3 times in those 3 years where I was unable to access the garage. Once due to lose of internet in house 2 other times due to web service issues on the MyQ side. I live in a cold climate having to get out of my car and have to go to the front door and have potential of rain , half a foot of snow or more , or cold is not a pleasant experience. Not an issue with HomeLink.
3. The MyQ system delays the closing of the door by 5-10 seconds and can't remember the exact time. But think back to the cold I mentioned above, I like to close the garage door before getting out of the car . The wind is nasty with the door open. And it lets all the heat out of the garage. It is also a safety concern people in the Minneapolis metro have been robbed or carjacked when people come home. the longer the door is opens the greater the risk. Also,, if I do not wait for the door to close it may not. If I do not wait, I will be inside the house before it even starts to close and if the photo eyes are blocked it won't close. And my door has been left open. With HomeLink the door would immediately start closing as soon as I hit the button in the car.
4. MyQ is actively during to stop users that want local control of the door and forcing them to use their inferior buggy unreliable web services. See https://chamberlaingroup.com/press/a-message-about-our-decision-to-prevent-unauthorized-usage-of-myq. They say .2% of the users are using their endpoint and they are concerned about a DDOS attack. That is one poorly design system if that can happen, I would not trust it at all! Back to point 1. They are concerned about their web service security and not the end user.
5. I am sure Tesla has stats that say more people have bought MyQ than the HomeLink accessory and why bother with HomeLink? Well just because you have more sales of a product does not mean it is the better or is even the proper decision. Take the F150 ICE variant it is the most sold vehicle in the US, do I need to say more.
6. Tesla has locked in one brand of door opener. Many homes still have Chamberlin doors without MyQ capability. They used to sell an accessory to provide MyQ to other doors, but they discontinued it. And many home builders put in the cheapest openers they can find. A perfect example is my parents' house. They live out of state I go there several times a year HomeLink just works, they don't have MyQ and live in an apartment it can't be modified nor would it make sense to subscribe to MyQ.

 

[Woodrick]

I have had more thoughts about HomeLink.


Here are reasons that that is not a good solution and Tesla should consider making this an option on the CT.

1. Home security. Having a remote system like MyQ has the ability to unlock my house is not desirable. Yes, someone could hijack rolling code, but they need close connectivity when using.
2. It requires internet connectivity. I have used MyQ about 3 years before I bought my tesla. I always used the built in HomeLink in my cars, but I used MyQ when I was doing yard work or in another car. So, the MyQ was not used much, but I had 3 times in those 3 years where I was unable to access the garage. Once due to lose of internet in house 2 other times due to web service issues on the MyQ side. I live in a cold climate having to get out of my car and have to go to the front door and have potential of rain , half a foot of snow or more , or cold is not a pleasant experience. Not an issue with HomeLink.
3. The MyQ system delays the closing of the door by 5-10 seconds and can't remember the exact time. But think back to the cold I mentioned above, I like to close the garage door before getting out of the car . The wind is nasty with the door open. And it lets all the heat out of the garage. It is also a safety concern people in the Minneapolis metro have been robbed or carjacked when people come home. the longer the door is opens the greater the risk. Also,, if I do not wait for the door to close it may not. If I do not wait, I will be inside the house before it even starts to close and if the photo eyes are blocked it won't close. And my door has been left open. With HomeLink the door would immediately start closing as soon as I hit the button in the car.
4. MyQ is actively during to stop users that want local control of the door and forcing them to use their inferior buggy unreliable web services. See https://chamberlaingroup.com/press/a-message-about-our-decision-to-prevent-unauthorized-usage-of-myq. They say .2% of the users are using their endpoint and they are concerned about a DDOS attack. That is one poorly design system if that can happen, I would not trust it at all! Back to point 1. They are concerned about their web service security and not the end user.
5. I am sure Tesla has stats that say more people have bought MyQ than the HomeLink accessory and why bother with HomeLink? Well just because you have more sales of a product does not mean it is the better or is even the proper decision. Take the F150 ICE variant it is the most sold vehicle in the US, do I need to say more.
6. Tesla has locked in one brand of door opener. Many homes still have Chamberlin doors without MyQ capability. They used to sell an accessory to provide MyQ to other doors, but they discontinued it. And many home builders put in the cheapest openers they can find. A perfect example is my parents' house. They live out of state I go there several times a year HomeLink just works, they don't have MyQ and live in an apartment it can't be modified nor would it make sense to subscribe to MyQ.

Ok great. Tesla moved away from Homelink for reasons that aren't really known.

So you've got a choice, get the Cybertruck or not. MyQ is your only option.

MyQ may not be the best option, but it certainly is the only option in the Cybertruck.

 

[Gigahorse]

Negative, just Chamberlain MyQ, which requires a subscription and a device that is networked and acts as like an IR blaster for your garage door opener.

I don't think MyQ requires a subscription? You have to have a MyQ compatable/Chamberlin etc door but don't think there is a paid subscription.

 

[Cybertruck26]

I don't think MyQ requires a subscription? You have to have a MyQ compatable/Chamberlin etc door but don't think there is a paid subscription.

i wish this were the case, but it wasn't my experience or what i have read for others.

https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-...cost-features-and-how-it-compares-to-homelink

 

[carsly]

Seems odd to exclude Homelink, it came on my 2021 Model S Plaid and I use it a few times a day. For $80-100K and cheating out on Homelink? I'd rather have Homelink than the aero wheel covers and soft-close liftgate. I mean we don't even have door handles, that's gotta save a few bucks.

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