How much you are willing to pay/buy the supercharger for life?

[SCTesla]

So are you retiree or what? You don’t drive anywhere where that is more than 50 miles one way from home? Ever?

Are you one of the I don’t go anywhere far that I don’t fly guys or are you somebody who doesn’t do road trips or when you do you rent a car?

I’m so confused by this lifestyle. I get charging at home avoids the need for supercharging, but that doesn’t work unless you’re never really go more than 150 miles one way from your house.

*Note: I see you’re in Sacramento so I can tell you right now that’s a place I would want to get the hell out of frequently and there’s so many good places to go around where you are that absolutely require you to do supercharging, so, what gives?

Agreed.

To each their own, but on most days a trip over 100 miles away will likely require some SC.

I SC multiple times a week and charge at home every night and it's not just work. We like to get out of the house.

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[dalton108]

Agreed.

To each their own, but on most days a trip over 100 miles away will likely require some SC.

I SC multiple times a week and charge at home every night and it's not just work. We like to get out of the house.

100% agree with you. To each their own and I’m not trying to diminish anyone’s reality.

As you noted, the number is really 100 miles but I didn’t want to say that number and have it turn into a whole side discussion because I am trying to get to the bottom of this preponderance of people on this forum who always talk about how they would never use a supercharger as if it was some kind of welfare program.

Doing stuff (outside of getting groceries) in an electric car (at highway speed) means charging … in public … at superchargers.

I feel like there’s just a weird smugness to the “I don’t supercharge” and “I would never” variety of posts. It’s so dismissive and weird to me. Just trying to comprehend it.

*Again, I drive a beast and I drive it fast and in an electric car you can (1) go far, or, you can (2) go fast. Choose one!

I’ve also seen posts on here where some guys are asserting that anybody who does quick accelerations is mentally challenged or whatever, but these are people that I leave in my wake as I zoom around town in beast mode which, btw, is precisely what I bought the car for. So I’m not trying to hyper mile, EVER! I’m just living my life and that involves supercharging. Not because I’m not starting out with 80%, but because I’m using it!

Oh, I guess I should answer the question. I’d be willing to pay probably up to $5K and it would be worth it many times over & pay for itself in one year … easy.

It would become my designated road trip car (and just my regular Southwest adventure travels would probably suck up that amount in 12 months).

And if Elon is paying and LEO is doing the driving, we’re getting out even more.

 

[hemiarch]

I think Tesla’s estimate of $5k is fairly accurate for a model x or s.
By extension, I think I’d pay $7500 for free supercharging just for traveling purposes on a cybertruck.
The thing you have to consider which makes the cybertruck more complicated is powershare though. Theoretically, you can import power to air condition your house over the summer or heat it during the winter and that sort of thing. That’s especially true if you own powerwalls or a similar setup. There will be a certain small subset of people therefore who may get very substantial energy value from this arrangement and Tesla would need to distribute that cost.
So for me, I’d probably pay $10k-$12k if they were offering it and I think that price would be fair for Tesla also.

 

[gc2488]

I'm happy for people that got the deal. That means in 5 years when my son is shopping for a used Cybertruck, he might be able to snag one ?.

I've spent $180 so far in 15k miles so I don't think I'd be willing to go $1k.

Yes, please make it transferable.

 

[selbydo]

Sadly, as early CT FS owners (my VIN#0028xx), we were not offered the free lifetime supercharger. I feel really bad when seeing that they later stared offering this for new FS buyers. Remember seeing this priced as an option for other Tesla models.

But, I'm willing to pay $1000 for this, knowing that we have 0 chance to get it for free, I think Tesla never does retro things like that.

How much you'd pay for it, and how much you think it'd be worth?

Let us be able to spend our $2500 credit on charging

 

[d9271]

Tesla hasn’t sold standalone SC since the early days when you could purchase for the Lower end S’s….i have free SC for both my X and FS CT…the value to me of free SC is a lot I have driven over 350k miles on X and have used per my TeslaFi stats over 112kw of SC and in California SC rates are averaging over .50 kWh… I doubt we will see Tesla offer this separate …possibly allow transfer to a new vehicle which they have done previously

 

[hemiarch]

Let us be able to spend our $2500 credit on charging

Exactly. That costs them nothing theoretically and they would have far less disgruntled FS owners.

 

[dLux]

Bummer. I had free super charging on my 2016 model x and it transferred so I assumed it would be the same but that makes sense.

"Free supercharger for the life of the car" was cancelled at around 2017, since then, there is only "free supercharging for the first owner". See SC01 and SC05 in TeslaInfo's Supercharging FAQ.

 

[DAE1]

I spend around $700/mo, so even $8K would return gains after around a year.

 

[mongo]

I'd want to pay less than I would use, Tesla would want me to pay at least as much as I would use.
To balance, the inital payment would need to go into an interest bearing account. At 4%, it would require a deposit of 25x annual usage to last in perpetuity. $10k would only provide $400 or 1MWh or 2,500 miles a year.

If going with a 10 year vehicle life and 5% rate of return, it's $1260, 3.15MWh, 8k miles a year. Of course, you can set aside the money yourself to do this, in which case it transfers if your truck gets totalled.

 

[Shadowmite]

I'd want to pay less than I would use, Tesla would want me to pay at least as much as I would use.
To balance, the inital payment would need to go into an interest bearing account. At 4%, it would require a deposit of 25x annual usage to last in perpetuity. $10k would only provide $400 or 1MWh or 2,500 miles a year.

If going with a 10 year vehicle life and 5% rate of return, it's $1260, 3.15MWh, 8k miles a year. Of course, you can set aside the money yourself to do this, in which case it transfers if your truck gets totalled.

From the business perspective they can charge much less than what they charge normal customers because their industrial rate for energy is likely 1/10th what normal residential service costs. Still, they want to run a business and charge enough to pay for infrastructure. It's all a balancing act. I like your thinking.

 

[sefar]

I have free supercharging on my 18 MS, and I had it on my 16 MS. I in 8 years, I have used it a handful of times not counting road trips. It was a great insurance policy in the early days when there were far fewer commercial charging stations available.

I would value it under 3k for the CT for two reasons- it is not transferrable, and Tesla reserved the right to "turn it off" if they decide you are using it excessively. Any lifetime service that continues only at the unfettered discretion of an auto manufacturer (or anyone other than the buyer) isn't really lifetime. The last lifetime membership I bought was to a shooting range that went out of business- they had been around for years and then suddenly weren't. That was an extreme case but certainly changed my perspective.

 

[Merc_s55]

I had my electrician put in a 'dryer plug' and I charge my CT at home. A full charge costs me $10.00 CAD. Very cheap. I super charge when I need to. Anybody who can make it back home should put in the 'dryer pug'. It drastically reduces the cost. Save the supercharging for longer trips.
I read that supercharging deteriorates the battery faster than charging at home. Is that true? I never know what to believe on here any more.

 

[mongo]

I had my electrician put in a 'dryer plug' and I charge my CT at home. A full charge costs me $10.00 CAD. Very cheap. I super charge when I need to. Anybody who can make it back home should put in the 'dryer pug'. It drastically reduces the cost. Save the supercharging for longer trips.
I read that supercharging deteriorates the battery faster than charging at home. Is that true? I never know what to believe on here any more.

DC fast charging does put more wear on the pack than slow charging rate. On the other hand, so does driving 75 on the highway versus 55.

Agree, home charging is cheaper, plus allows for preconditioning the cabin and pack without impacting SOC.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

I think this thread is the exact reason why you will never see standalone unlimited supercharging as an option in the shop. The value of supercharging is so wildly different for people, it's impossible to price.

If I had unlimited, I'd go to the supercharger and bring the truck home for powershare. My electric bill, less my truck, is about $500 a month. I'd keep the truck until it didn't work, theoretically using $50k-$100k in electricity.

Under current circumstances, I only supercharge when out of town. That was 20% of my charging the last year, which cost me just over $600. I imagine this is pretty close to what people with home chargers, less powershare, use a year.

Other people don't use supercharging at all, as we see in this thread.

When the value of a service can be between $0 and $100k, how do you price it?

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