MyTeslaWeekend Rumor - Dual Motor only for the first 500k units produced!

[madquadbiker]

I am in then having configured my order to dual motor. And the fact that I made my reservation on the night of the reveal.

I promise you all, I'll post the picture to make you droll. and envious.

Sorry that’s not good enough, what’s your address

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[Tinker71]

I’ve wondered for some time if there will be an LR config and an off-road config.

Rivian, lists ranges based on highway friendly tires and suggests off road tires will be a 5-10% range hit. I’d expect the Cybertruck would be similar.

So long as you can get 150+ miles per leg when towing, I think people will be fine with the Cybertruck. It should be possible considering what we’ve seen with the Rivian and the Ford.

The CT with 35" AT will be a drag. Tesla will compensate with a bigger battery but this will suck a lot more power than the Rivian with 20" AT. 10% is relative

Your 150 mile leg needs to include 10-15% range for battery life.

And knock it off Ogre I am trying to move up a couple spots. Sure people could get by doing 100-150 mile legs if only tow occasionally but time is money for many.

 

[Ogre]

The CT with 35" AT will be a drag. Tesla will compensate with a bigger battery but this will suck a lot more power than the Rivian with 20" AT. 10% is relative

Your 150 mile leg needs to include 10-15% range for battery life.

And knock it off Ogre I am trying to move up a couple spots. Sure people could get by doing 100-150 mile legs if only tow occasionally but time is money for many.

Are the CT tires that much bigger than the Rivian? Hadn’t realized they were that far apart.

Verdict is still out for sure on towing.

I just think 3 hours (150 miles) is decent between stop distance.

Wore my Cybertruck tee shirt today so I’m in maximum fan mode.

 

[SpaceYooper]

The Rivian does not have 20" tires. It might have 20" rims...but definitely not 20" tires.

 

[Cyberman]

This is why I bought 2 reservations… by the time the second one comes up 1-2 years after the first, maybe I’ll have buyers remorse and it’s an opportunity switch tracks. Also to lock in FSD at a date far enough into the future where I think it’ll be worth $10k.

And that, my friends, is how it's done.
This is why I reserved 100,000 Cybertrucks, I'll just keep getting the new one every time they vertically integrate an improvement, for the best CT ever, always! Only cost me $10,000,000 so far. Unloading the outdated one won't be a problem.
Hey, what if most of us did the same thing?

 

[JBee]

Rivian runs 33" and 34" tyres depending on configuration, I think you'll get more range difference from different tread patterns than the extra 1" the CT has.

 

[Ogre]

And that, my friends, is how it's done.
This is why I reserved 100,000 Cybertrucks, I'll just keep getting the new one every time they vertically integrate an improvement, for the best CT ever, always! Only cost me $10,000,000 so far. Unloading the outdated one won't be a problem.
Hey, what if most of us did the same thing?

Someone bought 30 thinking to turn them into a Robotaxi fleet.

 

[charliemagpie]

I think semi is amazing.

~1000kw pack, carrying a heavy semi, and a 80000lb load for 500 miles.

Vs

The lighter CT with 1/5th of the pack, and 1/10th of the load(7000lb RV) can only get to about 50% of semi's range.

 

[JBee]

Thats 500miles without a trailer with a TM CT. But it can tow 14,000 and put 3500lb in the bed for a total of 17,500 on a 5th wheeler. So a quarter of the payload, seeing the semi and trailer are included in the 80,000lb isn't the payload itself of the semi.

Its mostly about aero, truck tyre run at least double the tyre pressure too.

 

[Macgyverfever]

I'm waiting for the quad; decided that crab walking a Mcdonalds drive-thru is more important to me...

 

[Cyberman]

I'm waiting for the quad; decided that crab walking a Mcdonalds drive-thru is more important to me...

Valid.

 

[Qball]

Makes a lot of sense, just look at the new model Y which comes only in standard range format thanks to shortage of batteries and probably many other things. I got a dual and a tri in order so which ever comes first I’ll take it!!! Can’t wait!!!

 

[JBee]

I'm waiting for the quad; decided that crab walking a Mcdonalds drive-thru is more important to me...

The real question is though; "do you want fries with that?"

I'm 90% sure all CTs will have 4WS standard.

 

[cvalue13]

So long as you can get 150+ miles per leg when towing, I think people will be fine with the Cybertruck. It should be possible considering what we’ve seen with the Rivian and the Ford.

early adopter experience with the F150L is that towing range is wildly dependent less on weight, and more on the peculiar aerodynamics of the vehicle+towed item. Afterall, when MX and MY can experience a 25% range hit from a loaded hitch-mounted bicycle rack, imagine instead a 12’ trailer full of bicycles. Then add the normal range variants (wind, temp, elevation, etc.).

I now place massive and many asterisks near either (1) any manufacturer’s aspirational towing claims, and (2) any truck-owner’s tails/complaints of long/short distance towing.

Will a reasonably equipped CT be able to tow something 150 miles? Absolutely.

Will it also be able to tow something else far less than 150 miles? Also absolutely.

Frankly, anyone with their heart set on towing should take advantage of the $40,000 tax credit for the semi and probably come out not terribly more expensive than the eventual CT with maximum towing capabilities.

(I’m talking myself into a semi.)!

 

[cvalue13]

I think you'll get more range difference from different tread patterns than the extra 1" the CT has.

tread pattern + contact patch (especially width)+ offset + weight

Altogether easily would believe a cumulative effect of >10-15% is possible from seemingly nominal differences in tire choices

that said…

Rivian, lists ranges based on highway friendly tires and suggests off road tires will be a 5-10% range hit. I’d expect the Cybertruck would be similar.

… Car&Driver saw a +30% delta increase between 20” AT street and 22” all season tires on a Rivian in a 75mph test - suggesting both:

(1) wheel diameter increase effects can be more than compensated (for better or worse) by tire construction/tread type, and

(2) like speed/aerodynamic effects on range, the range hit from tire size might not be static for all speeds but instead depend significantly (exponentially?) on increasing speeds

Throw big AT tires and wheels on a CT and try to do 80mph and you may experience a significant difference in range from a street tire at the same speed

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