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Not everything is "bigger" in the USA.
Tesla Cybertruck New Body-in-White pic shows front wheel well, front quarter window + more 1690431807040



The question is if the cast is mounted with fasteners or welded to the cabin frame. I expect fasteners because of the dissimilar metals used, and if so, it should be possible to replace the cast and front end.
curious, though, about the stainless steel panels

given the casting/cab materials, my understanding is that attachment of the SS will likely involve gobs of structural adhesive in order to create boundary layers between the reacting metals?

andthat’s before accounting for what, at least in the rear of the CT, the “structural” nature of the QPs will be with respect to the rear cab/casting behavior in a crash?
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I think on the earnings call they said it’s cheaper to manufacture and cheaper to repair. Instead of having many parts all spot-welded together, like patchwork, it will be one piece. Perhaps they can swap it, melt the casting back down and recast it?
Imagine how much Tesla Insurance can pass on in savings when the CT, or for that matter, any Tesla with castings is hit and deemed repairable. 'Ten times quicker to repair and 3 times cheaper' [E.Musk (?) ]
IMAGINE said John Lennon.
If he was around, l'm sure he'd have a 'Flower Power' CYBRTRK Wrap similar to his Rolls Royce.
 

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You got all that from a wheel well image?
Perhaps just 'imagining' things, especially as we're all awaiting the Tesla Crash Test result they posted weeks ago! Should be released any day now. Wheelie!!!!!
 


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Guys your American county roads are not wider than roads in Europe or Australia, because either place still need to allow full size semi's to drive.

Besides the number 1 van sold in Europe, the Sprinter is just as wide, but higher and longer and goes everywhere a passenger car does, except through a drive thru and undercover carparks.

So please, if you can, stop saying the CT has to be "smaller" for other markets so they can fit down their roads. It's simply not true. Not everything is "bigger" in the USA.

As for the crush cans, these are typically only for impacts up to 25-30mph, anything above that will be going further through the vehicle, and the cast itself is designed to compress on impact as well. The question is if the cast is mounted with fasteners or welded to the cabin frame. I expect fasteners because of the dissimilar metals used, and if so, it should be possible to replace the cast and front end. The good thing about being an EV is that unlike an ICE your front mounted motor isn't destroyed, which is a major repair cost benefit.
Exactly! So many people forget this.

After the initial announcement of the CT, I walked the streets of London to take as many pictures of big-ass sprinter vans and other large vehicles driving and parked in the residential streets - just to prove the misconception false. It soon became boring because they're EVERYWHERE.

And don't forget the double decker busses that drive through almost every residential street in London.

The point being: the CT is not TOO big. Yeah OK it might not fit down those tiny street originally built for horse and cart but neither does my Model Y... Besides, I've seen so many imported Dodge Rams, Big Chevy's, and all types of American classic trucks all throughout Europe. The CT can sell here if Tesla wanted to.

That being said, we probably won't see a RHD anytime soon so boo hoo to all us Anglo left lane lovers. If they sell them in Europe, I might just have to consider making the move :D
 

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Guys your American county roads are not wider than roads in Europe or Australia, because either place still need to allow full size semi's to drive.

Besides the number 1 van sold in Europe, the Sprinter is just as wide, but higher and longer and goes everywhere a passenger car does, except through a drive thru and undercover carparks.

So please, if you can, stop saying the CT has to be "smaller" for other markets so they can fit down their roads. It's simply not true. Not everything is "bigger" in the USA.

As for the crush cans, these are typically only for impacts up to 25-30mph, anything above that will be going further through the vehicle, and the cast itself is designed to compress on impact as well. The question is if the cast is mounted with fasteners or welded to the cabin frame. I expect fasteners because of the dissimilar metals used, and if so, it should be possible to replace the cast and front end. The good thing about being an EV is that unlike an ICE your front mounted motor isn't destroyed, which is a major repair cost benefit.
It is worth pointing out, however, that Sprinters are not used as personal vehicles to pick up shopping, unlike trucks in the US (and even pickups are generally smaller here than the American ones). Round here parking squares are usually around 5 metres long, so the Cybertruck would constantly have its butt hanging out and in many places it might simply be impossible to park.

I venture it's actually the length which is the more awkward measurement for Europe, not so much the width (though that can be tight too).

Having said that Tesla could absolutely sell it here, and it will sell, due to function, uniqueness and (hopefully) price. It would not likely be as popular as a Model Y or even a Model 3, but I could see it selling more than any other pickup here and even giving vans a run for their money.
 

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They just did make a smaller version of the CT. That's what we are getting. I'm curious if they will be making a larger one eventually.

In all seriousness though, I could totally imagine myself driving around a Kei car sized CT at some point.
The closest thing to a Kei CT for now is probably the Suzuki Jimny. They have just started delivering the 5 door version in India (ICE) and, at the beginning of the year, hinted that an EV version is on the way. Though unfortunately I'm going to guess they're going to do the far less interesting eVX first, built on some Toyota platform, and that any Jimny is still years away.

I'm desperately waiting to see what will be the first real (affordable) utility offroad EV available in Europe. Right now the only utility vehicles available are vans. Honestly if there was a 5 door EV Jimny available right now at a decent price, I probably would've gone down that path already.
 

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It's so refreshing to see new design technic for trucks that is about a hundred year old. The CT will be my last truck in my lifetime. I will pass it down to my family and hope someone will keep it inside the family.
my silverado will be 15 years old next year when I trade it in on my CT. I am 68 so this will probably be my last vehicle - should last 20 years with the stainless steel and aluminum body
 


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I can't wait to start driving it. Like most of us I reserved min that night in 2019. I do have a 2 Tesla's now 2016S bought in 2016 2022 X Plaid Tesla Solar and Tesla Power Walls can't wait to add the Cybertruck.
 

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I think an F-150 head on collision with the CT might be a really really bad F-150 day. I’m an F-150 owner and I’m imagining the engine completely wrapped around my body.
 

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Hope they use some type of sealed hard material for the inner fender debris guard. Casting extrusions has lots of dirt/debris collection cavities.

debris trap.jpg
Closed cell foam with an epoxy protective coating against rock abrasion would not only stop mud and ice from collecting but would also aid in floatation with foam to prevent tipping at all 4 corners of the cyber barge! I mean truck!
 

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Hope they use some type of sealed hard material for the inner fender debris guard. Casting extrusions has lots of dirt/debris collection cavities.

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These are for the cats that take refuge in this warm wheel well in the winter and then need to hang onto something to go along for the ride.
 

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I think an F-150 head on collision with the CT might be a really really bad F-150 day. I’m an F-150 owner and I’m imagining the engine completely wrapped around my body.
That is certainly an advantage that all EVs have over their ICE counterparts: No engine block to shove backwards into the cabin space during a head-on collision. Combine that with a low center of gravity (and structural reinforcement) due to the battery pack density/location and you have a very safe vehicle.
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