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New Cybertruck Range Test Review Video (Out of Spec Kyle) - Condensed Version

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Thanks for posting that. I just noticed that the test everyone has been saying was done at 46 degrees F was actually only started at 46F and had declined to 41F by 25% battery and down to 39F by the time he hit 1% battery.

Not arctic cold, but not exactly the mild temperatures the naysayers were claiming. I also noticed the Cybertruck he tested had about 1000 miles on it already and the overall efficiency was 450 Wh/mile, quite a bit below the 500 Wh/mile on the test in the middle of the night.

What does it all mean? I think the Cybertruck will impress with range when driven at slower speeds on rural highways. I didn't order a Cybertruck to be a high-speed interstate luxury cruiser , I ordered it to get work done, haul and tow, and access high mountain trailheads in the North Cascades, some of which have access roads that are too rugged for my Model 3.

Kyle's 70 mph range test results don't surprise me one bit and I'm more enthused than ever that Cybertruck will exceed my needs, especially with the excellent handling and ride dynamics that have been reported, the excellent steer-by-wire system, the super sounding stereo, the dual motor roll-top vault locker that is super smooth in operation, and the four-wheel steering. None of this was confirmed when I placed my order, now I have the confidence that it's a great truck that I'm going to be so glad I had the foresight to reserve an early one.

I'm chalking up the Dual Motor version as far, far better than I expected, even if I do have to pay considerably more for it.

BTW, the reason the Rivian has trouble with their roll top cover is it only has one motor, on one side. That's why they bind and break. Tesla does great engineering, that's why they speced it with a motor on each side.
 

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I didn't order a Cybertruck to be a high-speed interstate luxury cruiser ,
Well... I hope to do that.

But there's Superchargers anywhere I can drive 80mph, so I'll just charge back to fifty percent to get to the next one.

And take a luxurious stretch and pee once every other hour and never need to stop elsewhere.

-Crissa
 


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Well... I hope to do that.

But there's Superchargers anywhere I can drive 80mph, so I'll just charge back to fifty percent to get to the next one.

And take a luxurious stretch and pee once every other hour and never need to stop elsewhere.

-Crissa
Cybertruck will certainly do it, but it will need longer, more expensive charging than a more efficient vehicle. Of course if you need all the cargo capacity of the Cybertruck, there is no better vehicle for that.

The best Tesla for long, quick road trips, assuming just passengers and regular luggage, is a RWD Long Range Model 3. I hope they bring that configuration back with the updated Highland.
 

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Cybertruck will certainly do it, but it will need longer, more expensive charging than a more efficient vehicle. Of course if you need all the cargo capacity of the Cybertruck, there is no better vehicle for that.
Camping gear takes room!

The best Tesla for long, quick road trips, assuming just passengers and regular luggage, is a RWD Long Range Model 3. I hope they bring that configuration back with the updated Highland.
Yeah. This is why I want an Aptera.

Then we'd have two all-weather vehicles.

-Crissa
 

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In barely above freezing temps at 500-700 feet of elevation (near sea-level) 254 miles is nothing to sneeze at. That's probably near 280-300 miles at 60-75 degree, more on all-season tires.

For comparison, in similar temps, and with a cold battery (not charged that morning) it took me 85% of the battery on my Model S running on Tesla winter 19's with the aero covers to go 200 miles in almost exactly 3 hours for a similar average speed. The day before was a bit warmer, and the battery had been pre-heated, and it took me 75% of battery to cover the exact same route. Simple math suggests an effective range at 100% of 235-265 miles -- on a Model S!

Needless to say, the Cybertruck is much, much less aerodynamic and all-terrain 35's will be a less efficient combo than a Model S (Plaid, admittedly) running on winter 19's with aero covers. 254 miles is actually ABOVE what the Model S may do in similar conditions.

Where is that headline - Cybertruck effective range in cold temps exceeds range of a Model S Plaid?
 
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Camping gear takes room!
In 1999 I went to New Zealand with my wife and another friend. We bought a beater Nissan hatchback for $1200 and travelled around the North and South Islands camping and hiking. There were three of us in that little Nissan, and all of our gear.

But when camping in caravan parks with our little backpacking tents, we were totally outclassed by the local New Zealand families who would show up in cars smaller than a Model 3 with two adults and one to three kids and proceed to erect a grand campsite, with large tent, tables and chairs, covered kitchen, stoves, clotheslines, etc. We felt positively destitute in our puny little tent, no chairs or tables, only one, one burner backpacking stove, etc. We couldn't figure out how they did it since there were only three of us and our car was jamb packed.

Most amazing was how they had the entire campsite setup within 20 minutes of arriving, while we were still pitching out tents. We saw this same scenario play out multiple times all over New Zealand, our jaws were dragging on the ground. What we couldn't figure out was how they fit so many people and such a deluxe camp setup that was so quick to deploy in one small car. The teamwork setting up camp was impressive, and as soon as they had it set up, they would pitch a badmitten net 30 yards away and start playing each other and also with other campers who had just arrived.

Like most things, car camping takes skill. This experience taught us we didn't know shit about car camping compared to those Kiwis! The moral of the story is you make do with what you have. Those Kiwis looked like they were having more fun than American "overlanders" I've seen with elaborate setups costing over a quarter million dollars and weighing tons.
 

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In barely above freezing temps at 500-700 feet of elevation (near sea-level) 254 miles is nothing to sneeze at. That's probably near 280-300 miles at 60-75 degree, more on all-season tires.
Yep, that's a lot of miles of range and hours on the open road when you have the density of Superchargers enjoyed by most areas of the country.

A lot of non-EV people still don't get that.
 

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Thanks for posting that. I just noticed that the test everyone has been saying was done at 46 degrees F was actually only started at 46F and had declined to 41F by 25% battery and down to 39F by the time he hit 1% battery.

Not arctic cold, but not exactly the mild temperatures the naysayers were claiming. I also noticed the Cybertruck he tested had about 1000 miles on it already and the overall efficiency was 450 Wh/mile, quite a bit below the 500 Wh/mile on the test in the middle of the night.

What does it all mean? I think the Cybertruck will impress with range when driven at slower speeds on rural highways. I didn't order a Cybertruck to be a high-speed interstate luxury cruiser , I ordered it to get work done, haul and tow, and access high mountain trailheads in the North Cascades, some of which have access roads that are too rugged for my Model 3.

Kyle's 70 mph range test results don't surprise me one bit and I'm more enthused than ever that Cybertruck will exceed my needs, especially with the excellent handling and ride dynamics that have been reported, the excellent steer-by-wire system, the super sounding stereo, the dual motor roll-top vault locker that is super smooth in operation, and the four-wheel steering. None of this was confirmed when I placed my order, now I have the confidence that it's a great truck that I'm going to be so glad I had the foresight to reserve an early one.

I'm chalking up the Dual Motor version as far, far better than I expected, even if I do have to pay considerably more for it.

BTW, the reason the Rivian has trouble with their roll top cover is it only has one motor, on one side. That's why they bind and break. Tesla does great engineering, that's why they speced it with a motor on each side.
I agree 100%. It's the reason I chose to pay more than I was budgeting for the AWD. The only thing I'm a bit disappointed with is the charging curve that Ryan Shaw measured, but I expect they will improve in the future.
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