Powershare Delayed Until Mid-2026

[Marcotravels6]

It may be my confusion, but here is what I experienced.

I have my cybertruck foundation series back in 2024, and installed the gateway V3 and universal charger that come with the purchase (in credit) and spent additional $4500 for installation. My house was hit often by outage for Public Safety Power Shutoffs (PSPS). That is one of the main reasons I decided to go for cybertruck and its powershare to feed in the house.

It worked, but not exactly what I had hoped for.

When outage hit, even I have my cybertruck plugged in, the house will still go out of power. Within a minute, the gateway will get cybertruck kick in with powershare, and everything will be power. When power resumes from the grid, it will disconnect from the cybretruck, everything goes out again, and within a minute, switch to grid power. Yes, I will have power during outage, but the on-off on-off pattern was not friendly to appliances, computers and not how I envision powershare would work. But I probably didn't do my homework enough before I jumped in, so my bad.

Last year, I finally decided I need a pw3 to have smooth tranistion during outage, even though the capacity is much smaller than cybertruck. It will last about 12 hours for my house alone, but most of our outages are less than that.

I then was told by the Tesla that the gateway v3 I had won't be compatible with pw3, and because there is no other space in my garage for it, it has to be disconnected and removed. I took a few months going back and forth with them, did my research, and eventually had to agree to it. I spent another $400 to remove the gateway v3 before Tesla's team came to install pw3 and gateway 3. Fortunately the universal charger can stay.

So I now have a pw3 with a new gateway, a universal charger that works fine. It has been an outage already and it worked as it supposed to be, no feeling in the house at all.

I have my solar installed many years ago. It generate about 2-3 times the amount of pw3 capacity everyday. But I am in NEM 2.0 so I can offset 1:1 with PGE for what I used so I am okay with it, not need to install another battery. The current pw3 can cover all my peak time usage, so I will likely end up with zero or negative peak time usage, and small usage of off-peak time (mostly due to charge my EV).

I am waiting for the power share to come with powerwall, at which point my cybretruck can be a big battery of cheap electricity - I can charge it up at low rate from supercharger which is about half of the price we pay to the utillity.

The only problem...I wasted over $5000 install and remove the original powershare system, dragged too long and missed the home battery tax credit, and a redundant gateway v3 in my garage that I don't know what to do with it...

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[Tanquen]

It may be my confusion, but here is what I experienced.

I have my cybertruck foundation series back in 2024, and installed the gateway V3 and universal charger that come with the purchase (in credit) and spent additional $4500 for installation. My house was hit often by outage for Public Safety Power Shutoffs (PSPS). That is one of the main reasons I decided to go for cybertruck and its powershare to feed in the house.

It worked, but not exactly what I had hoped for.

When outage hit, even I have my cybertruck plugged in, the house will still go out of power. Within a minute, the gateway will get cybertruck kick in with powershare, and everything will be power. When power resumes from the grid, it will disconnect from the cybretruck, everything goes out again, and within a minute, switch to grid power. Yes, I will have power during outage, but the on-off on-off pattern was not friendly to appliances, computers and not how I envision powershare would work. But I probably didn't do my homework enough before I jumped in, so my bad.

Last year, I finally decided I need a pw3 to have smooth tranistion during outage, even though the capacity is much smaller than cybertruck. It will last about 12 hours for my house alone, but most of our outages are less than that.

I then was told by the Tesla that the gateway v3 I had won't be compatible with pw3, and because there is no other space in my garage for it, it has to be disconnected and removed. I took a few months going back and forth with them, did my research, and eventually had to agree to it. I spent another $400 to remove the gateway v3 before Tesla's team came to install pw3 and gateway 3. Fortunately the universal charger can stay.

So I now have a pw3 with a new gateway, a universal charger that works fine. It has been an outage already and it worked as it supposed to be, no feeling in the house at all.

I have my solar installed many years ago. It generate about 2-3 times the amount of pw3 capacity everyday. But I am in NEM 2.0 so I can offset 1:1 with PGE for what I used so I am okay with it, not need to install another battery. The current pw3 can cover all my peak time usage, so I will likely end up with zero or negative peak time usage, and small usage of off-peak time (mostly due to charge my EV).

I am waiting for the power share to come with powerwall, at which point my cybretruck can be a big battery of cheap electricity - I can charge it up at low rate from supercharger which is about half of the price we pay to the utillity.

The only problem...I wasted over $5000 install and remove the original powershare system, dragged too long and missed the home battery tax credit, and a redundant gateway v3 in my garage that I don't know what to do with it...

I did a ton of back and forth with them too. They're easily confused when you're talking to them about PowerShare and what it needs to work currently versus Powerwall three and what may be supported eventually.

I didn't think you needed a gateway with the Powerwall 3. You said you removed the gateway version 3 but then they came back and installed the Powerwall 3 and a Gateway 3? I know you only need the universal EV connector for PowerShare with the Gateway version 3. Supposedly PowerShare with the Powerwall 3 will not require Universal EV connector.

 

[HaulingAss]

It may be my confusion, but here is what I experienced.

I have my cybertruck foundation series back in 2024, and installed the gateway V3 and universal charger that come with the purchase (in credit) and spent additional $4500 for installation. My house was hit often by outage for Public Safety Power Shutoffs (PSPS). That is one of the main reasons I decided to go for cybertruck and its powershare to feed in the house.

It worked, but not exactly what I had hoped for.

When outage hit, even I have my cybertruck plugged in, the house will still go out of power. Within a minute, the gateway will get cybertruck kick in with powershare, and everything will be power. When power resumes from the grid, it will disconnect from the cybretruck, everything goes out again, and within a minute, switch to grid power. Yes, I will have power during outage, but the on-off on-off pattern was not friendly to appliances, computers and not how I envision powershare would work. But I probably didn't do my homework enough before I jumped in, so my bad.

Last year, I finally decided I need a pw3 to have smooth tranistion during outage, even though the capacity is much smaller than cybertruck. It will last about 12 hours for my house alone, but most of our outages are less than that.

I then was told by the Tesla that the gateway v3 I had won't be compatible with pw3, and because there is no other space in my garage for it, it has to be disconnected and removed. I took a few months going back and forth with them, did my research, and eventually had to agree to it. I spent another $400 to remove the gateway v3 before Tesla's team came to install pw3 and gateway 3. Fortunately the universal charger can stay.

So I now have a pw3 with a new gateway, a universal charger that works fine. It has been an outage already and it worked as it supposed to be, no feeling in the house at all.

I have my solar installed many years ago. It generate about 2-3 times the amount of pw3 capacity everyday. But I am in NEM 2.0 so I can offset 1:1 with PGE for what I used so I am okay with it, not need to install another battery. The current pw3 can cover all my peak time usage, so I will likely end up with zero or negative peak time usage, and small usage of off-peak time (mostly due to charge my EV).

I am waiting for the power share to come with powerwall, at which point my cybretruck can be a big battery of cheap electricity - I can charge it up at low rate from supercharger which is about half of the price we pay to the utillity.

The only problem...I wasted over $5000 install and remove the original powershare system, dragged too long and missed the home battery tax credit, and a redundant gateway v3 in my garage that I don't know what to do with it...

The induistry is the midst of huge transition over the last several years. When the Cybertruck was released it was apparent the Powershare was still a work in progress and didn't work with Powerwall yet. This whole integration with the electrical utility is very much in it's infancy. The early utility rules were designed to encourage solar and be simple. Now that there are batteries, and solar is viable without subsidies in most cases, the rules are changing to encourage desired behavior for a robust and efficient grid. It will take a decade or more before these technologies (and the rules of how it works economically) are mature and more predictable. Those ratepayers with utilities regulated by honest and knowledgable utility regulators will fare the best.

I look forward to the software updates that will make Powershare on the Cybertruck integrate with Powerwall 3. Exciting times for those into this kind of thing.

 

[Marcotravels6]

I did a ton of back and forth with them too. They're easily confused when you're talking to them about PowerShare and what it needs to work currently versus Powerwall three and what may be supported eventually.

I didn't think you needed a gateway with the Powerwall 3. You said you removed the gateway version 3 but then they came back and installed the Powerwall 3 and a Gateway 3? I know you only need the universal EV connector for PowerShare with the Gateway version 3. Supposedly PowerShare with the Powerwall 3 will not require Universal EV connector.

No, not the exactly same gateway.

I misused the term. It is Gateway 3V or what Tesla calls GW3V that specially works for "vehicle" powershare back to house, at the moment only cybertruck but they hinted Model Y will have that feature too "in the future".

The new gateway they installed is gateway 3 or GW3 that works for PW3 and will potentially be compatible with vehicle powershare with software update. That is what I believe we are waiting for and talking about in this post.

After taking the GW3V down and having the GW3 waiting to be installed in the next day, I compared them both with my electrician, there is something missing / different from GW3V comparing with GW3.

Maybe that is why the Tesla staff insisting that future software upgrade will not work for GW3V the same way so I have to replace it with GW3.

 

[Tanquen]

No, not the exactly same gateway.

I misused the term. It is Gateway 3V or what Tesla calls GW3V that specially works for "vehicle" powershare back to house, at the moment only cybertruck but they hinted Model Y will have that feature too "in the future".

The new gateway they installed is gateway 3 or GW3 that works for PW3 and will potentially be compatible with vehicle powershare with software update. That is what I believe we are waiting for and talking about in this post.

After taking the GW3V down and having the GW3 waiting to be installed in the next day, I compared them both with my electrician, there is something missing / different from GW3V comparing with GW3.

Maybe that is why the Tesla staff insisting that future software upgrade will not work for GW3V the same way so I have to replace it with GW3.

I have no gateway, the Powerwall 3 is currently doing everything and I was told, will do PowerShare with no gateway. So not sure why they gave you another gateway. They would not give you the Tesla backup switch? It's a lot cheaper and cleaner than a gateway.

 

[Marcotravels6]

I have no gateway, the Powerwall 3 is currently doing everything and I was told, will do PowerShare with no gateway. So not sure why they gave you another gateway. They would not give you the Tesla backup switch? It's a lot cheaper and cleaner than a gateway.

They talked about it in one of the conversations but I really couldn't recall now. The gateway 3 is part of the PW3 lease I have at the end... I guess I got ripped off by Tesla one more time then

 

[Marcotravels6]

alright, I kinda remembered now. My subpanel is very old and already full, so they said the backup switch option won't work for me...unless I upgrade my subpanel...

 

[txtravwill]

Mid-2026, let's hope the like 4th time/delay is a charm!

 

[HaulingAss]

Mid-2026, let's hope the like 4th time/delay is a charm!

I'm not really expecting it until September or October but will be pleasantly surprised if it comes in July or August.

 

[Tanquen]

I'm not really expecting it until September or October but will be pleasantly surprised if it comes in July or August.

Has there been any word on exactly how it'll function? I believe the only current working solution where you've gateway version 3 and the Cybertruck is if the power goes out, it will switch to drawing power from the vehicle after 20 or 30 seconds. I guess they did also mention vehicle to grid but I'm not which utilities are going to pay anything for that.

 

[Marcotravels6]

Someone I spoke to said that it will automatically switch to PW3 during outage so I'm you won't lose power in the house. Then you can choose to switch power source to cybertruck as priority, to save the power in the battery. Hope that is what we will get.

 

[Tanquen]

alright, I kinda remembered now. My subpanel is very old and already full, so they said the backup switch option won't work for me...unless I upgrade my subpanel...

They weren't forcing me to use a gateway but they were wanting to add an extra breaker panel because my panel was too old and didn't have enough open slots. They said they needed 6 for some reason which doesn't sound right I think they only needed two. I ended up going with a SPAN panel that's worked fairly well so far. Who knew my clothes dryer was using 30 watts 24/7 just sitting there. I now cut power to it when I'm not using it. Maybe it saves me a couple bucks a year. But I plan on running all new circuits from the 40 breaker spaces to a rental unit that's also on the property and try to keep track of who's using what for what.

 

[HaulingAss]

Has there been any word on exactly how it'll function? I believe the only current working solution where you've gateway version 3 and the Cybertruck is if the power goes out, it will switch to drawing power from the vehicle after 20 or 30 seconds. I guess they did also mention vehicle to grid but I'm not which utilities are going to pay anything for that.

Many utilities already pay a premium price for electricity to Battery Energy Storage Systems (BESS) during high-demand events and have lucrative sign-up bonuses. Compliant car batteries will work under the same rules. My utility claims they have designed the BESS buyback program to have a high probability of not drawing your battery down when you are likely to need it (for example during high wind events). I'm not very motivated by money to pay my system off more quickly, I invested in convenience and resiliency in power outages. I also signed up before my utility is scheduled to replace the existing net metering plan with a new one (with unknown incentives at this point). But existing net metering systems will be grandfathered in under the same rules (sell power for the same price the utility sells power).

 

[HaulingAss]

They weren't forcing me to use a gateway but they were wanting to add an extra breaker panel because my panel was too old and didn't have enough open slots. They said they needed 6 for some reason which doesn't sound right I think they only needed two. I ended up going with a SPAN panel that's worked fairly well so far. Who knew my clothes dryer was using 30 watts 24/7 just sitting there. I now cut power to it when I'm not using it. Maybe it saves me a couple bucks a year. But I plan on running all new circuits from the 40 breaker spaces to a rental unit that's also on the property and try to keep track of who's using what for what.

We recently bought a new house and are doing some electrical and other upgrades before moving. They include a SPAN panel (same model as yours), a single Powerwall 3, 7.5 kW solar panels, and replacing the gas range with induction.

The house came with a Maytag washer and gas dryer that (together) consume 5W at idle. It looks like your dryer that consumes 15W is an electric dryer. That does seem excessive, I wonder what it's doing. The gas range and microwave consume 15W together at idle. This doesn't bother me much during the heating season but, where we live in the PNW, heat gain in the summer can be the difference between needing air conditioning and not. And all those phantom loads turn 100% into heat within the building envelope. For climates using air conditioning, these phantom loads, that are typically allowed to produce heat 24/7, hurt twice as much because the air conditioning uses additional electricity to remove that heat. I've had good success avoiding the need for cooling by reducing phantom loads and using windows and the natural day/night cycle to keep the house cool and comfortable.

Our contractor also installed a Gateway 3 for the Powerwall/Solar and Cybertruck. They said when Tesla releases the software to make it compatible with Powershare, that we might have to run low voltage communication wires between the Powerwall and Wall Connector (pulled through existing conduit). We will see if they know what they are talking about and if Tesla pulls through with a good Powerwall Update. If not, it already does everything we want it to do, just with less energy storage. I have a high confidence that Tesla will pull through and slightly less confidence that we won't be re-configuring the system to make it work. We'll see!

 

[Marcotravels6]

I look at that too, span and another app controlled smart breakers system which I forgot name now. How much is it to install the SPAN? It sounds like you have the same old panel as mine, and an upgrade of panel is too expensive to justify.

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