Powershare Gateway Circuit Breakers?

[UrNameSux2]

I feel like I am getting some misinformation from the "Certified" installers that Qmerit is requesting.

1. The Qmerit drop down quote system is BS andQMERIT and the certified installers are totally taking advantage of the credit for being an early FS purchaser.
2. The installer I just spoke to said the powershare has 10 circuit breakers it can hold and that if I went with a heavy loads it would cost double because they would need another panel?

Can anyone verify this for me?

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[smcnaughton829]

I can’t verify that the price is double. But I am getting the whole house backup and I was told they needed (to the best of my understanding) the gateway would be my “new” main panel and then my main panel would become a sub panel. They would need to separate all my neutrals and grounds in the panel, while also moving the main wires over to the gateway.

I am not an electrician, but I can tell you it’s been difficult trying to get the whole house backup. Tesla says the truck can do it, the gateway is supposed to be able to do it, so why is it so hard to get someone to actually do what it’s supposed to be able to do?

Well I’m still waiting for Tesla to ship the gateway and once it’s here I’ll let you know the final price. I accepted the Qmerits quote, now just waiting for parts.

 

[nickazevedo]

It's sad to see so many people getting ripped off by QMERIT and their network. Honestly, I'd highly recommend waiting if you can. What was on Tesla's mind to provide such credit when not many installers could participate on the supply side of the market?

Sorry for my rant, so let me try to address OP's questions:

1) Please wait if you can. Do the credits expire in 1 year?
2) Not true. The Powershare Gateway (3V) supports 8-double / 16 single circuit breakers for a total of 200A of brands Eaton BR, Siemens QP, or Square D HOM breakers rated to 10–125A. Please find my source here.

I do not recommend making the Gateway 3V your main panel. When you install the Gateway 3V, you can bypass its panel board entirely, making what is your main panel today a subpanel of G3V. I

 

[UrNameSux2]

Thanks everyone for answering

 

[Ironalley]

48 amp only what the truck can charge or produce here’s my gateway hope this helps

 

[Car Charger Specialists]

Hey everyone! We are a non-Qmerit PS installer in GA/NC. I can help shed some light on this subject. Also, you don't HAVE to use a Qmerit installer! You just need a Tesla PowerShare certified installer.

The CT provides 48A(11.5kW) of continuous power, and can handle instantaneous peak currents of 110A. Most 150A and 200A panels are able to be completely backed up through the PS system. If you have AC units rated higher than 110FLA, or electric heat pumps or hot water heaters you may need a non backup panel. One east way to check how much current you home uses(if you only have 1 electric panel) is to login to your electric utility dashboard and find your hourly usage on the hottest day of the year. We've found that most homes <3000sqft draw between 2-5kW of power during this time and have no problem being completely backed up.

The "subpanel" in the gateway is a great alternative for partial backup loads and subpanels. It is also useful if you have multiple panels and want to backup select circuits from multiple panel by relocating the breakers to this subpanel.

If you have questions about you specific scenario, feel free to ask! You can post here, or call us direct if you are in the GA/NC area at 404-520-7349.

Or visit our website at www.carchargerspecialists.com

This is a great video explaining the surface level details of the PS system.

 

[technut7]

Hey everyone! We are a non-Qmerit PS installer in GA/NC. I can help shed some light on this subject. Also, you don't HAVE to use a Qmerit installer! You just need a Tesla PowerShare certified installer.

The CT provides 48A(11.5kW) of continuous power, and can handle instantaneous peak currents of 110A. Most 150A and 200A panels are able to be completely backed up through the PS system. If you have AC units rated higher than 110FLA, or electric heat pumps or hot water heaters you may need a non backup panel. One east way to check how much current you home uses(if you only have 1 electric panel) is to login to your electric utility dashboard and find your hourly usage on the hottest day of the year. We've found that most homes <3000sqft draw between 2-5kW of power during this time and have no problem being completely backed up.

The "subpanel" in the gateway is a great alternative for partial backup loads and subpanels. It is also useful if you have multiple panels and want to backup select circuits from multiple panel by relocating the breakers to this subpanel.

If you have questions about you specific scenario, feel free to ask! You can post here, or call us direct if you are in the GA/NC area at 404-520-7349.

Or visit our website at www.carchargerspecialists.com

This is a great video explaining the surface level details of the PS system.

Wish you were in Silicon Valley area. No one over here besides Qmerit has completed their orientation on the PowerShare install.

 

[Car Charger Specialists]

Wish you were in Silicon Valley area. No one over here besides Qmerit has completed their orientation on the PowerShare install.

Well, Tesla is having issues with their find an installer page. There are no listed installers here in ATL either.

 

[mongo]

Wish you were in Silicon Valley area. No one over here besides Qmerit has completed their orientation on the PowerShare install.

Let me just say, Qmerit installers apparently haven't either....
(At least on the quoting side)

 

[technut7]

Let me just say, Qmerit installers apparently haven't either....
(At least on the quoting side)

Lol. I had a hunch that's true and did not want to be the experiment. The guy I spoke to was reading off a required parts list that Qmerit told him he had to follow.

 

[nickazevedo]

Can you use the credits/voucher with a Certified Powerwall Installer? Technically speaking, Gateway 3 that Powerwall Installers use meets the requirement of Powershare. The UWC or WC is the easiest part after the Gateway installation is in place. With the ability to bid multiple Powerwall Installers, you might find quality service at a fair price.

Or is there something special that only Qmerit can do right now? I'm assuming that commissioning is something that only Powershare Certified Installers can do. But if this is not the case, then I don't see why this has to run by Qmerit.

 

[UrNameSux2]

48 amp only what the truck can charge or produce here’s my gateway hope this helps

Thanks for sharing

 

[UrNameSux2]

I spoke to the installer again and was told from him that the powershare gateway is rated at 200A but for the light loads install you'd only get 100A to work with. 60 Amps (charger will take 48A) goes to the CT for the charging, and therefore I'd only have the remainder to work with which may be about 6 20 amp circuits I can have.

If they are trying to put anything like the AC, than a 2" conduit would be needed to run the line.

The installer literally goes off the line item from the Qmerit quote where it states up to 10 circuits.

 

[nickazevedo]

I spoke to the installer again and was told from him that the powershare gateway is rated at 200A but for the light loads install you'd only get 100A to work with

Nope, he's wrong. Please see below. The name Tesla gives to those internal circuits is Panelboard:

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[TyPope]

My installation was "completed" 2 weeks ago. Got the survey in email. Got a bill in email. Thing is, the installation is not complete. There's one 240v 20A breaker that hasn't been installed. He didn't have the part at the time and said he'd be back with it.

Can I buy and install a simple breaker and connect the wires? Of course.
Can I unplug the wires from the old box and connect them to the runners? Of course.
Should I do those things? No
I've been billed... but haven't paid. I filled out the survey and said the job wasn't done.
I mean, I still have the electrician's sweatshirt and lineman pliers...

[EDIT]
They've finished the install (quite a while ago now, actually...). Anyway, woke up one morning, Friday before Veteran's day to be exact. Everything seemed normal. All the right things were still on. But, when my wife went into the bathroom, the light wouldn't come on. Yeah, Fluffy was running the house and he doesn't power the bathroom light circuit. Seemless. Nice to know it would run things. Won't run the heat pumps or water heater but, it'll run enough that we can stay comfortable for a while. A few days, actually. We don't pull much power aside from the heat pumps and water heater. Our house is all electric, too.

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