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[FutureBoy]

you don’t consider Toyota, Nissan, or Isuzu legacy automakers? Guess you’ve never been to any of the ‘Stan countries — Afghanistan, Pakistan, Khazakhstan. Toyota has about 85% of the vehicles driving there; everything from the Hilux, sedans, econoboxes…. Nissan and Isuzus are all over Central Asia as well. I’ve personally seen more Japanese and Korean autos driving in Mongolia than you can ever imagine. Why did you think Chairman Toyota was so dead set against electrifying the Toyota brand?

Primarily because they were betting on Hydrogen and had a ton of R&D spend on that instead of EV's.

Like there would be a ton of hydrogen available in these down market economies any time soon... I know that the classic technology leapfrog for these markets is when they skip land lines and just go to cell technology. But that is a technology that is powered by electricity and electricity can be produced easily with solar cells (as we see on many cell towers) or wind turbines (even small ones can be a great benefit in these markets).

I agree that Toyota sunk a ton of yen into hydrogen power. But I think even that effort was flawed thinking. So it is no surprise that they made the further tactical error to outright reject EVs even while seeing Tesla make significant headway. Everything was so promising with their hybrids back in the day. But their subsequent decisions were just disastrous . Good luck turning that ship around and making any kind of success out of this.

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[Ogre]

Ram sells out.

Not taking anymore orders. They took the first 500 orders and closed the books.

Ok… 500 is my own number plugged in because Ram didn’t provide one. Curious that.

 

[Diehard]

A new acronym (EDM) gets you 500 mile range:

https://www.ram1500revolutionforum....ve-driving-range-up-to-500-miles-800-km.6519/

 

[Ogre]

A new acronym (EDM) gets you 500 mile range:

https://www.ram1500revolutionforum....ve-driving-range-up-to-500-miles-800-km.6519/

Any motor will get you 500 miles with a big enough stack of cells backing it.

It’s a meaningless metric. Like an ICE vehicle bragging about 2,000 miles range (with a 200 gallon tank).

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