Universal Charger Delivery & Install

[webspeedracer]

i was directing it mainly to anyone else who is in a cold climate or in case you guys get a cold snap again and start loosing your minds like last time in 2021

…which is why Cybergus wants the PowerShare capability…for those ERCOT-induced grid convulsions

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[cgladue]

expensive power in the northeast sucks but at least ive only needed a generator like 2 times in the last 10 years

 

[jasper7821]

How do you plan to have it installed when you have to wait on the installer to bring the equipment and do the install. And that doesn’t happen until you buy & drive off the lot.

Am I missing something here? I mean, I could purchase a charger, but I am getting one with the truck & I wouldn’t want to pay twice.

For my old Ford Focus Electric I had the electrician install a 14/50 (Dryer) outlet in the garage and I plugged my charging station into that. Super simple and the mobile charger with included adapter will plug right into it.

 

[HaulingAss]

Nobody appears to be talking about not having the Universal Wall Charger in the truck when you pick it up during delivery.

When do you get the charger installed? How has that process worked? For someone who does not have any EV’s and no charging at home, what is the wait/gap time from picking it up and getting something installed?

As the homeowner, I installed my own Wall Connector when I got my Model 3. This is legal in most jurisdictions, and not that hard to do in most install situations, but you do need to understand the Electrical Code and use professional workmanship. Even many licensed electricians don't use the best workmanship so it's possible for a knowledgable homeowner to a better job than a licensed electrician who doesn't care much for details.

If you are not qualified, then the timeline depends upon that of whatever electrician or electrical contractor you hire (when they can fit the job in). In most installs an electrician can bang out a quality job in three or four hours. It all depends upon where your electrical service is (relative to the charge location) and whether or not it's ready to simply add a breaker to an open slot. If the panel has available capacity (most do) and is in the garage where the charging will happen, it might only be a two-hour job (for the work done onsite), particularly if surface mount electrical conduit can be run from the breaker panel to the Wall Connector.

In most jurisdictions the electrician will also need to pull an electrical permit and get it inspected by the local authorities. In my experience the inspection is just a quick visit after the install that can usually be scheduled by your electrician anywhere from 1 day to a week or so in advance.

While the complexity of installing a Wall Connector can vary greatly depending upon the existing infrastructure particulars, it's generally a very quick job that doesn't involve sourcing unusual or hard to find components. I imagine with the economy on a cooling cycle, contractors are probably easier to schedule now than in previous years. You definitely don't have to wait to get the Wall Connector in hand to get bids and have your electrician plan the install.

Having your own charging station is key to having a superior EV ownership experience. It's like having your own on-site oil refinery that provides gas for a fraction of the price you would pay at the pump. It will also add significant value to your home, should you decide to sell it, moreso now with all North American cars scheduled to have NACS as the unified charging standard by 2025.

 

[HaulingAss]

For my old Ford Focus Electric I had the electrician install a 14/50 (Dryer) outlet in the garage and I plugged my charging station into that. Super simple and the mobile charger with included adapter will plug right into it.

It's best to avoid the intermediate electrical outlet when it's so easy to hardwire the Wall Connector that comes with the Foundation Edition Cybertrucks. There are 4 wires required to a NEMA 14-50 outlet while the Wall Connector only requires 3 wires.

It's also easier to make the connections secure on the Wall Connector and you will not be required to install a more expensive GFCI circuit breaker. The Wall Connector is also easier to install on a wall because it is not flush mount like most NEMA 14-50 installs.

 

[jasper7821]

It's best to avoid the intermediate electrical outlet when it's so easy to hardwire the Wall Connector that comes with the Foundation Edition Cybertrucks. There are 4 wires required to a NEMA 14-50 outlet while the Wall Connector only requires 3 wires.

It's also easier to make the connections secure on the Wall Connector and you will not be required to install a more expensive GFCI circuit breaker. The Wall Connector is also easier to install on a wall because it is not flush mount like most NEMA 14-50 installs.

That’s what I did when I got rid of the ford focus and got a Model S. I did it by myself, bigger breaker, plug and wire. The breaker box is only a few feet away from the plug on the other side of the garage, so it was very inexpensive for the wire.

 

[HaulingAss]

Sounds like your home is like most homes without 240V in the garage…which is why you *could* have a friendly electrician install an industrial-grade NEMA 14-50 240V receptacle in your parking area, as an intermediary step, prior to taking delivery of your CT, and to bridge the gap until your PowerShare hardware is delivered/installed.

If your wiring run isn’t too long to the panel, the 14-50R should only be a couple hundred bucks, especially if you tell the electrician you want it for parents visiting with their RV . If you let on it’s for your incoming Cybertruck, it might cost double+ that.

I would recommend *not* installing a NEMA 14-15 outlet for charging purposes.

And I would not hire an electrician that would charge different rates whether it was for powering a motorhome or charging an EV. That practice is not honest, and I wouldn't support any electrician who felt comfortable doing that, even if I was getting the "honest" rate by telling him it was for RV charging. Supporting people like that is not where I want my money going. The price should be based upon the time and effort, not what the outlet will be used for.

 

[84Apollo3]

I have an authorized Tesla installer installed my solar sytem, 3 PoweWalls, a Tesla Gateway, a Tesla Universal connector and a 2nd 60amp, 240V outlet a few months ago and it took four afternoons to do so. You don't need to have the equipment to plan your installation. They prefer to install it near your circuit panel and can be up to a 60amp breaker for fastest L2 charging. They prefer that you have WiFi for easier commissioning of the device but it's not required. I plan on having Tesla install the PowerShare and the other Universal Wall Connector (already qualified per 2nd email from Tesla) in my soon to be build 2nd garage where my Cyberbeast will be parked. By year's end, I should have 2 additional Powerwalls installed. At that time, I should have 5 EVs so having all these batteries, chargers and outlet helps.

This looks like the house from Teslanomics. Is that you?

 

[RayzorBEV]

This looks like the house from Teslanomics. Is that you?

What's Teslanomics?

 

[84Apollo3]

What's Teslanomics?

Ben Sullins (?) YouTube channel. I believe he has or had an R1T and Model 3 as well.

 

[cgladue]

Sullins is in California

 

[Cybertruck 1974]

I hope everyone knows by now the wall charger comes with installation with V3 gateway only when approved and vin is assigned. Also with a certified Tesla contractor where the installation will be performed only after the contractor contacts you to go over permitting and installation area. The only items that comes with truck is the vehicle to vehicle cable and adapters to connect truck to 220 and 110 outlets.

 

[Alan]

No I believe the mobile connector comes with the truck. I just put a 14-50 outlet in the garage and we use the mobile connector to charge the S. My brother is in a rental house so he got a 240v extension cord and plugs into his dryer outlet. I already had an unused 60 amp 240v breaker in my box which is located in the garage. Cost about $50. Just to be extra cautious I set the car to charge at 30 amps at this location.

 

[CYBEAST]

My guess is yes. A certified Tesla installer has to do the gateway and universal wall charger. You don't get the universal wall charger with the truck. So if they deny your installation and offer you the supercharging credit, you would have to purchase a wall charger. Good news is even though you loose $3,000 in equipment (plus $4,000 in installation credits if you ordered a beast), you will save $50 because you don't need the universal wall charger. Just the regular wall charger. ?

 

[s_dk91]

I had the same issue and didn’t want to wait for the Tesla installers to ship and schedule an install. So for now, I used my referral credits and purchased a Tesla wall connector and hired an electrician to wire it. I have ann existing powerwall and solar from Tesla.

When Tesla comes for power share they will probably have to do some work, but either:
- they will probably be cheaper on labor since I already got a wall connector wired. I’ll tell them to replace existing one with the new one.
- or I’ll try to just get the wall connector off them and decline PowerShare since I already have a powerwall.

time will tell.

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