Updated Semi Horn that’s produced via the external speaker.

[Balthezor]

Lots of folks complained about this early on (specifically, the first couple of folks who got the new horn in August without having a choice). It’s one of the reasons that there is no way you could get me to “upgrade.”

The other is being old enough to realize that when you have something that’s unusual/unique, you preserve it.

As soon as they said it was non-reversible, I was done even considering it. That said, I think it sounds really cool too, but if I want to play firetruck, I can do it in toy box and still have a fail proof real horn. At the very least, it seems to confuse people because they’re looking for an emergency vehicle and don’t really know what to do.

Some people on this forum stunned me by saying that they literally “never use their horn.” I use my horn several times a week! People around here drive like idiots and it is a necessary tool to keep people from colliding with my cars. I need people to realize, INSTANTLY, that I’m trying to get their attention because they’re creeping into my lane and about to sideswipe me, I don’t have time for them to be puzzled about “what’s making that noise?”

I haven’t even clicked on the damned invite out of fear that it might somehow automagically fuck up my horn just because I looked at it!

Hard pass!

You live in India?

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[HaulingAss]

This literally ignores everything that the gentleman above explained about people not being able to hear the horn OUTSIDE of his car.

Facts have to be faced. Perhaps they can be explained, but they can’t be ignored.

Someone claiming something doesn't make it a FACT.

As a lawyer, you should know this.

 

[SCTesla]

Someone claiming something doesn't make it a FACT.

As a lawyer, you should know this.

To be fair, their vehicle could have an issue. The horn may not be working.

We've heard audio, seen decibel readings, and own vehicles with the horn to know it can be heard outside the vehicle at around the same decibel as the original horn.

Maybe theirs is defective?

 

[HaulingAss]

Never one moment of hesitation in upgrading, and no regrets whatsoever. It is a perfect match for the truck, and very loud. I always thought the regular horn sound was ill-fitting for this truck of the future.

Same here!

I'm an experienced driver and very aware when driving in traffic. Which means I generally never need to use my horn. The few times I do use it, it's almost always to say, "Your bad" than it is an attempt to ward off disaster. I don't want to depend on the offending driver to react to my horn and take corrective action, I take the corrective action myself (and I may or may not honk to let them know).

When I do honk the new horn sound, it's almost always for fun. And it's the least irritating horn sound I've ever heard.

Pro tip: A regular horn sound, like the one my Cybertruck came with, sounds irritating if you lay on it, regular horns sound best with a short "toot". The Cybertruck's new horn sounds best if you don't do a single short toot, lay into it for a second or two. If you want, you can add a short toot immediately after the longer honk. That's how the firetrucks around here do it, and it sounds really good, and it gets people paying attention.

 

[dalton108]

Someone claiming something doesn't make it a FACT.

As a lawyer, you should know this.

Yeah, don’t do that.

If you can’t disprove the claim, it’s still a claim and he has no known reason to lie. Moreover, he’s far from alone. An unrebutted claim is as good as a fact because that’s what it’s going to be deemed.

Anyone wanting to rebut it is free to do so. Ignoring it doesn’t move the needle.

 

[dalton108]

You live in India?

I’m pretty sure they have a fewer accidents there!

 

[GuyV]

I don’t regret switching, but I do see a few drawbacks to it.
1. It’s unique. So instead of people instantly recognizing it as a “get moving” signal, it takes them a moment to get it. It’s like there is a quick thought of “should I yield to a fire truck that is somewhere?” Thought.
2. I think the loudness is the same but the tone is lower. This does seem to make it less noticeable. I know frequency and directionality are somewhat related. Like how you can place a subwoofer anywhere in a room because the low frequency is way less directional. Maybe that is having some effect?

I don’t have enough use cases to say it’s less useful, but I would hate to have to use it in NYC where the horn is a legit, and often used tool. Seems like it may not work as well.

Overall, verdict is still out for me…

I'm in the don't often use the horn group because those you're honking at around here don't pay any attention to them anyway. Mine is plenty loud though. I can be parked out front and honk it from the phone and hear it loud and clear at the back of the house.

 

[rtiql8n]

Mine makes people jump in their drivers seat. Loud inside and out.

 

[HaulingAss]

Yeah, don’t do that.

If you can’t disprove the claim, it’s still a claim and he has no known reason to lie. Moreover, he’s far from alone. An unrebutted claim is as good as a fact because that’s what it’s going to be deemed.

Anyone wanting to rebut it is free to do so. Ignoring it doesn’t move the needle.

A few facts:

1) I didn't call it a lie, I said claiming something doesn't make it a fact.
2) Even if the claim is unrebutted, that doesn't make it a fact.
3) The claim was hearsay, a claim that two other people claimed they couldn't hear it. The person reporting that could have been telling the truth, the people reporting they couldn't hear it could have been less than honest.

Claiming this kind of hearsay is as good as fact, simply because no one else was there to rebut it really makes me question what kind of lawyer you are. Lawyers need to understand the difference between facts and hearsay.

Have you ever heard the horn sound off in real life? Serious question.

 

[HaulingAss]

Mine is plenty loud though. I can be parked out front and honk it from the phone and hear it loud and clear at the back of the house.

That has been my experience as well.

 

[dalton108]

A few facts:

1) I didn't call it a lie, I said claiming something doesn't make it a fact.
2) Even if the claim is unrebutted, that doesn't make it a fact.
3) The claim was hearsay, a claim that two other people claimed they couldn't hear it. The person reporting that could have been telling the truth, the people reporting they couldn't hear it could have been less than honest.

Claiming this kind of hearsay is as good as fact, simply because no one else was there to rebut it really makes me question what kind of lawyer you are. Lawyers need to understand the difference between facts and hearsay.

Have you ever heard the horn sound off in real life? Serious question.

I’ve asked you nicely once. I’m gonna tell you one more time nicely (this is it right here) don’t presume to tell me my business. After this, I’m going to get nasty with you. You won’t like it. I promise.

An unrebutted averment of a salient issue, my friend, becomes a fact for any trier of fact anywhere in this land, thems the rules (that’s just how it works irl). Here’s what that looks like in a decision:

I find Xs unrebutted statement regarding Y to be credible and therefore I’m going to do Z with that information.

What you’re trying to inartfully describe is double-hearsay. Again we’re not in a courtroom - none of this matters.

But here you are doing this thing that you like to do.

Since (1) no one is under oath and (2) this ain’t a courtroom, every fucking thing said here is hearsay. I’m not going to explain the hearsay rule (or any of the various exceptions to it) any more deeply than that for you. I’ll only add the rule is intended to keep unreliable evidence away from a jury/judge; it doesn’t unring bells. What’s “fact” is what the “trier of fact” (judge or jury) deems to be “fact” after weighing all of the evidence -including any admitted hearsay. ?

We already know what he’s asserting. And again this, since you seem deeply confused, is not a courtroom.

Also, I never said you said he was lying what I said was there’s no reason to suppose that he is.

Here’s where we are: maybe there’s something wrong with his horn, maybe there’s not. Multiple people have reported that people don’t hear or respond properly to their new horn.

Other than your typical apologist bullshit, you have nothing to dispute that with, you just want to dismiss people as is your modus operandi.

Do as you will, so will I. But, if you’re going to continue try to be condescending in my general direction while suffering under these delusions of adequacy, it’s going to be unnecessarily unpleasant for everyone.

The record is simply replete with people reporting that other people don’t respond properly to the horn. This user is expressing some very mild misgivings (mostly, I think, as a way to open the discussion) for updating his horn.

You don’t like that. Duly noted. ?

 

[HaulingAss]

I’ve asked you nicely once. I’m gonna tell you one more time nicely (this is it right here) don’t presume to tell me my business. After this, I’m going to get nasty with you. You won’t like it. I promise.

An unrebutted averment of a salient issue, my friend, becomes a fact for any trier of fact anywhere in this land, thems the rules (that’s just how it works irl). Here’s what that looks like in a decision:

I find Xs unrebutted statement regarding Y to be credible and therefore I’m going to do Z with that information.

What you’re trying to inartfully describe is double-hearsay. Again we’re not in a courtroom - none of this matters.

But here you are doing this thing that you like to do.

Since (1) no one is under oath and (2) this ain’t a courtroom, every fucking thing said here is hearsay. I’m not going to explain the hearsay rule (or any of the various exceptions to it) any more deeply than that for you. I’ll only add the rule is intended to keep unreliable evidence away from a jury/judge it doesn’t unring bells. What’s “fact” is what the “trier of fact” (judge or jury) deems to be “fact” after weighing all of the evidence -including any admitted hearsay. ?

We already know what he’s asserting. And again this, since you seem deeply confused, is not a courtroom.

Also, I never said you said he was lying what I said was there’s no reason to suppose that he is.

Here’s where we are: maybe there’s something wrong with his horn, maybe there’s not. Multiple people have reported that people don’t hear or respond properly to their new horn.

Other than your typical apologist bullshit, you have nothing to dispute that with you just want to dismiss people as is your modus operandi.

Do as you will, so will I. But if you’re going to continue try to be condescending in my general direction while suffering under these delusions of adequacy, it’s going to be unnecessarily unpleasant for everyone.

The record is simply replete with people reporting that other people don’t respond properly to the horn. This user is expressing some very mild misgivings (mostly I think as a way to open the discussion) for updating his horn.

You don’t like that. Duly noted. ?

You can BS all you want, that doesn't change the definition of "fact". Because I'm not gullible enough to believe every statement, simply because it wasn't rebutted.

You lack understanding of the difference between a "fact" and a "claim".

 

[Vagis9780]

Does anybody else regret upgrading their horn via software vs the physical horn?

I love the sound, but a few people mentioned to me that you can’t hear it very while in motion. I drove by my nephew and his friends the other day and honked, and when I asked them later on if they liked it, none of them said they could hear it well.

Also, I tested it this afternoon while driving behind my wife, and she said that she could not hear it. Only when I stopped at a traffic light she said that she could hear it very faintly.

The horn works well in parking lots for people, but now I regret having a normal horn for the day-to-day and while driving in motion. It could also be a borderline safety hazard when you actually need to use it on the road or highway.

When upgrading there is a disclosure that says that you cannot revert, but wondering if anyone has been able to or have had similar results?

Unless you drive in NY or LA, how often do you really need to use your horn. I feel the same about horn as I do about rear view mirror, it’s Required. Have fun with horn. At least can make it “fart”.

 

[bdesign]

Does anybody else regret upgrading their horn via software vs the physical horn?

I love the sound, but a few people mentioned to me that you can’t hear it very while in motion. I drove by my nephew and his friends the other day and honked, and when I asked them later on if they liked it, none of them said they could hear it well.

Also, I tested it this afternoon while driving behind my wife, and she said that she could not hear it. Only when I stopped at a traffic light she said that she could hear it very faintly.

The horn works well in parking lots for people, but now I regret having a normal horn for the day-to-day and while driving in motion. It could also be a borderline safety hazard when you actually need to use it on the road or highway.

When upgrading there is a disclosure that says that you cannot revert, but wondering if anyone has been able to or have had similar results?

I, too, have a similarish experience with the new horn.

I really like the new sound and was excited to do the update.

Now, although I still love the IDEA of the new sound, I regret doing it.

My experience:
I have a major issue with drivers texting while driving - I get unreasonably (is it unreasonable?) angry when I encounter someone texting while driving, or even worse, driving while texting. Exactly.

I had a Silverado before the CT, and when I encountered a Texter, I could lay on the horn which would never fail to extremely startle the idiot causing them to immediately stop texting and focus on driving.

It became an obsession - I was a HORNY superhero on a mission to save others from untold mayhem one honk at a time.

Since updating to the new horn… no one notices the horn at all, no matter how long I mash it.

I’ve tested it with my wife, and she says she hears it, but it doesn’t seem as loud as a regular horn and is definitely much less jarring.

I now have a lingering fear that at some point I’ll need the horn to help avert disaster and won’t be able to rely on it.

NOT bashing the CT or advancement, progress, etc., because I love all those things… just throwing my experience out there to get @dalton108 fired up. (Haha I kid)

 

[Stuck4ger]

That has been my experience as well.

Mine, too, there’s no question that it’s a loud and recognizable horn. I like triggering it remotely.

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