Wh/mile efficiency reported on the highway (heat on, 30°F, 85 mph)

[Gigahorse]

If you don't drive the tested speed limit or have a lead foot you won't get the published range ...

Fun fact: Gas cars don't either! Tow an Airstream with a gasoline F150? 8mpg. Funny how we never talk about that.

Then factor in temperatures ...

No way you're going to "baby" your new Tesla first drive. Heck, I've never even turned off Plaid mode.

Fuel efficiency goes down at high speeds, and when towing.
But keeping up with traffic you are going to be doing 70+ out west, and getting under 160 miles of range before hooking up anything to tow is rough.
Hopefully some of these early range reports are not correct.

Not realistic to say that you should get X range, as long as it is 63 degrees, you are going 55 mph, downhill, with a tailwind, and only one 110lb driver in the vehicle.

Time will tell but nice to be getting some real world #s in

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[BayouCityBob]

you probably need some recalibration

under the described conditions, for a vehicle this large, with its Cd, this 800 figure is very possible

especially if, not to mention, our hero driver isn’t familiar with what cold air does to tire PSI, and what even a few PSI difference can make when on 34x11.5 inch ATs

remember, the FS on AT’s the Beast’s EPA conditions range estimate is only 300mi

doesn’t take much to get it to 150 under the above-described conditions

that’s just physics and BEV trucks

I have run a lot of EV miles including the R1S. He notes that the first leg of the trip was 800 wh/mi and the second was high 400s (i.e. 260 - 280 range). Same truck, same ambient, same tire pressure. They said they were blasting the heat and going "like 85" mph. The physics say that moving from 75 mph to 85 mph will increase energy usage by 28% (flow velocity squared). The heat may have been a factor, but not huge. I would put money on the underlying cause being that 85 mph was really >90 (a 55% energy jump) and their driving involved a lot of routine jack-rabbit acceleration.

 

[Gigahorse]

I have run a lot of EV miles including the R1S. He notes that the first leg of the trip was 800 wh/mi and the second was high 400s (i.e. 260 - 280 range). Same truck, same ambient, same tire pressure. They said they were blasting the heat and going "like 85" mph. The physics say that moving from 75 mph to 85 mph will increase energy usage by 28% (flow velocity squared). The heat may have been a factor, but not huge. I would put money on the underlying cause being that 85 mph was really >90 (a 55% energy jump) and their driving involved a lot of routine jack-rabbit acceleration.

Was surprised and hopeful that it was like you said due to high speeds and a lot of rapid acceleration.
Another driver reported not being about to get over 220 kw (not the 350kw) and on a long distance trip was getting between 678-810 wh/mi not towing anything

Hopeful the information coming out currently is not accurate or there are significant other factors at play.

TLDR: AWD Cybertruck looks to have between 151-203 miles of real world range while highway driving hope for better stats to come in but not looking good right now. Towing could be well under 100 miles of range

 

[Cybergirl]

I've taken a dozen trips between Chicago and Havasu, AZ in my Model 3 and Model Y in October and May a distance of 1850 miles driving 75 - 80 mph. The average distance between Supercharging stops is ~150 miles, and I'm getting an efficiency of ~320 Wh/mile. The Cybertruck's battery is half again as big at the Model 3 LR, and with similar EPA ranges, I would expect to see an efficiency of about 500 Wh/mile doing this trip in good weather conditions in the CT. Instead of costing the usual $210 Supercharging cost to go 1850 miles in my Model 3 or Y, I'm expecting to pay about about 50% more taking the CT.

 

[Gurule92]

So i just watched the ourcyberlife video, and it does seem that they have 800wh/mi, i dont know their elevation gain, but yea its pretty rough going 85 in the cold. He does mention that he is normally in the upper 400s doing normal driving.

I was curious about why the content overall has been kinda meh, but it looks like the employees are still scared.

 

[BayouCityBob]

Was surprised and hopeful that it was like you said due to high speeds and a lot of rapid acceleration.
Another driver reported not being about to get over 220 kw (not the 350kw) and on a long distance trip was getting between 678-810 wh/mi not towing anything

Hopeful the information coming out currently is not accurate or there are significant other factors at play.

TLDR: AWD Cybertruck looks to have between 151-203 miles of real world range while highway driving hope for better stats to come in but not looking good right now. Towing could be well under 100 miles of range

This photo says 579 wh/mi since charge. The V3 superchargers are limited to 250 kw.

 

[Alan]

2 months ago we did a 7600 mile road trip from Seattle down to Moab Up through Denver to the outer banks and then back on a northern route through North Dakota. going 85 to 90 uses a good 25 to 30% more energy. But for those living at altitude like Colorado and that entire high plateau area of the country you get 25 to 30% better range than us at sea level for a given speed.

 

[Gigahorse]

This photo says 579 wh/mi since charge. The V3 superchargers are limited to 250 kw.

Pretty sure that is 678

 

[BayouCityBob]

So i just watched the ourcyberlife video, and it does seem that they have 800wh/mi, i dont know their elevation gain, but yea its pretty rough going 85 in the cold. He does mention that he is normally in the upper 400s doing normal driving.

I was curious about why the content overall has been kinda meh, but it looks like the employees are still scared.

What he says exactly is: "so the first half of the trip we were getting like almost in the 800s wh per mile, which is pretty abysmal. But the second half of the trip it was closer to what we are used to in the high 400s low 500s."



But this information cannot come soon enough for me! I need to see a highway range test or two to tell me if this will suit my needs or if I am going a different direction!

 

[Gigahorse]

But this information cannot come soon enough for me! I need to see a highway range test or two to tell me if this will suit my needs or if I am going a different direction!

Few other vids are out from other people driving the CT.
When driving on the high way it looks like 600-700 is the average, which is under 200 miles of range
THIS is the reason a lot of people were upset about not getting a "500+" mile range truck, is the real world range is so much lower than advertised.

 

[BayouCityBob]

Pretty sure that is 678

I think you are right. My bad.

 

[Gigahorse]

I think you are right. My bad.

No worries, I wish you had been correct, these real world wh/mi coming in are pretty depressing.

 

[scottf200]

2 months ago we did a 7600 mile road trip from Seattle down to Moab Up through Denver to the outer banks and then back on a northern route through North Dakota. going 85 to 90 uses a good 25 to 30% more energy. But for those living at altitude like Colorado and that entire high plateau area of the country you get 25 to 30% better range than us at sea level for a given speed.

My 2017 gets under 400 Wh/Mile on long roadtrips at a variety of speeds generally 75 mph and under.

That is a pretty awesome trip you did. We did a counter clockwise loop something along those lines as we stayed with family on the OR coast for a vacation. BC was fantastic. We were in Moab a couple days and went thru Denver after that.

 

[scottf200]

As some of the foundation series trucks are being released some people are posting their trips on medium to long road trips. So as we get an idea of real world range it looks pretty rough.
Highway driving, with HVAC taking up to 800 wh/mile
Can't imagine what that will be when towing something
Should be ok for around town short trips, but 800 wh/mile is brutal

Another similar thread -- 545 Wh/mi
Cybertruck owner doing a Cannonball Run style trip and answering questions

 

[BayouCityBob]

Few other vids are out from other people driving the CT.
When driving on the high way it looks like 600-700 is the average, which is under 200 miles of range
THIS is the reason a lot of people were upset about not getting a "500+" mile range truck, is the real world range is so much lower than advertised.

I agree with you that this is a huge deal for many of us (me included). I am expecting a 320 mile CT to deliver at least the same highway range as a 2020 316 mile Model Y LR (+/-) or about 280 miles at 70 mph decent weather. Which is same as the 320 mile rated F150 Lariat. If it does not deliver that, I am out. I will cut the loss and move on. Hopefully it gets into enough hands to answer this question before Tesla calls and asks me to complete the transaction.

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