Cybertruck Production Advances to TOOLING Phase!

[Bill906]

In the future FSD Rail Load/Unload module would handle the operation.

In that same hypothetical future, the cars will drive themselves from the factory, to the new owners driveway.

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[CyberGus]

If not practical to extend rail line on to Austin GF property because of intervening property rights, dig a Boring Company tunnel between the sites and then drive vehicles off the production line, through the tunnel and onto a train car.

Love the enthusiasm, but each mile of tunnel takes a week of 24/7 drilling and costs about $10M.

 

[firsttruck]

In that same hypothetical future, the cars will drive themselves from the factory, to the new owners driveway.

Yup, definitely expect to see that. Once Robotaxi level FSD is released except for the recharging stops, direct home delivery should be easy.

A train or truck pulled vehicle carrier might still be involved for the middle part of the journey because of costs, efficiencies, recharging, tire wear, and new owner might not want hundreds or thousands of miles on their new vehicle just from delivery.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

I just read the quarterly report and relistened to the entire call. I did not originally hear the last question at 1:02 and I reneg on my comment about the Semi using the 2170 cells (or not using the 4680 cells as you say), so I accept the "goof" moniker for that. On the other hand, in the same question answer Elon said there would be no impact on the use of 4680 cells for the Cybertruck. Your question/comment about the 4680 cell ramp, I assume, is directed at Elon and not to me since I am not the one making them. I am only reiterating what they said during the call and in the quarterly report.

I have listened to Dillon's youtube review on Electrified and I read/review Teslarati and Electrek multiple times a day but often their 'reporting' is opinion rather than fact, or at least a mix. I was surprised when Elon said during the call that they are targeting 50K Semis by the end of 2024. He said that their Semi production ramp would take about a year.

 

[firsttruck]

Love the enthusiasm, but each mile of tunnel takes a week of 24/7 drilling and costs about $10M.

OK.

So

1. If they start now can have tunnel ready by time of Cybertruck ramp next summer.

2. $200M cost for tunnel would offset by current transport costs (is Tesla pay outside vendor), time savings from avoiding load/unload onto truck carriers, reduced number of damaged vehicles, reduced complexity (less scheduling issues), significant speed up entire process.

Of course I do not have Tesla's actual cost numbers but overall time & costs might be same ballpark.

I also heard there was a shortage of trucks and drivers

So where is the problem part?

 

[greggertruck]

Maybe they're not making 4680's in Nevada so just use 2170s til the line moves? to Texas??

 

[greggertruck]

OK.

So

1. If they start now can have tunnel ready by time of Cybertruck ramp next summer.

2. $200M cost for tunnel would offset by current transport costs (is Tesla pay outside vendor), time savings from avoiding load/unload onto truck carriers, reduced number of damaged vehicles, reduced complexity (less scheduling issues), significant speed up entire process.

Of course I do not have Tesla's actual cost numbers but overall time & costs might be same ballpark.

So where is the problem part?

It would almost certainly be cheaper to just extend the rail no? But then that is a whole other can. They can't just dig a tunnel though I am sure there is a LOT of permitting and that takes yearsish to approve. And they have no reason to approve Tesla to do that.

 

[firsttruck]

It would almost certainly be cheaper to just extend the rail no?

Yes, for sure.

But then that is a whole other can. They can't just dig a tunnel though I am sure there is a LOT of permitting and that takes yearsish to approve. And they have no reason to approve Tesla to do that.

Yes, in my original post about the Boring Tunnel idea I said it was an alternative IF extension of rail was not possible because of property rights issues for the land in-between.

 

[JBee]

In that same hypothetical future, the cars will drive themselves from the factory, to the new owners driveway.

What I want is a self assembling car.

imagine this: You get a small satchel of hybrid robo-dna one morning in the mail. You pour it in a bowl and add water. By midnight you have a self-replicating robot, that you wet again. By morning you have a bunch of crazy cyborg gremlins trashing your house for parts, and Mcgyverwelding all your pots to create a beautiful shiny new CT in whats left of your garage. Your wife is not impressed...she wants you to leave. You do, in your new CT! ?

 

[Ogre]

I haven't noticed rail lines at GT. We thought they would ship out vehicles this way. Parts might be different given how slow and unpredictable rail can be, but 2000# packs from Fremont to Texas starts to add up. 27 per truck? Since freight generally doesn't move west this might be a dead leg. Not ideal, but hopefully short term.

There are rail lines near GT, they drive carriers to/ from the train yard.

If you ships unpackaged cells, you have an extra load/ unload step and you have a bunch of extra packaging you need to ship to/ from the cell factory.

 

[firsttruck]

What I want is a self assembling car.

imagine this: You get a small satchel of hybrid robo-dna one morning in the mail. Your pour it in a bowl and add water. By midnight you have a self-replicating robot, that you wet again. By morning you have a bunch of crazy cyborg gremlins trashing your house for parts, and Mcgyverwelding all your pots to create a beautiful shiny new CT in whats left of your garage. Your wife is not impressed...she wants you to leave. You do, in your new CT! ?

My lunch, dinners are great Mexican food ( tacos, burritos, torta, etc) in paper to go package or Chinese food in folded paper take-out carton.

You are very lucky to have house, solid bowls, metal pots, and wife too.

My Cybertruck will have to be delivered ready to go just like my food

If the Cybertruck delivered itself would be great.

 

[TyPope]

Love the enthusiasm, but each mile of tunnel takes a week of 24/7 drilling and costs about $10M.

So... if that's right, it'd be $200M for a 20 mile tunnel? And it would be ready in 20 weeks? If possible, that'd be awesome! If they could do that in, a train mode or something, imagine.
Cars get built and remain onsite under cover until a train is ready for loading. Then, they all FSD themselves down the Tesla tunnel to the Hutto rail yard. Even if some railroad requirement was that they be physically driven onto the train, the Teslas could stage themselves at the mouth of the tunnel and would advance by one every time a railroad worker drives one to the train.
Optimally, they'd just drive themselves onto the train.

Even if they had to be driven by a person from the yard onto the train, it'd be good to be in a weather controlled tunnel with no traffic to worry about. It would probably be safer than loading them onto trucks and then off the trucks...

 

[Walkstep]

So... if that's right, it'd be $200M for a 20 mile tunnel? And it would be ready in 20 weeks? If possible, that'd be awesome! If they could do that in, a train mode or something, imagine.
Cars get built and remain onsite under cover until a train is ready for loading. Then, they all FSD themselves down the Tesla tunnel to the Hutto rail yard. Even if some railroad requirement was that they be physically driven onto the train, the Teslas could stage themselves at the mouth of the tunnel and would advance by one every time a railroad worker drives one to the train.
Optimally, they'd just drive themselves onto the train.

Even if they had to be driven by a person from the yard onto the train, it'd be good to be in a weather controlled tunnel with no traffic to worry about. It would probably be safer than loading them onto trucks and then off the trucks...

Why not just have them drive themselves to the customer?

 

[Ogre]

Why not just have them drive themselves to the customer?

You want your car to arrive with 1500 miles on it?

Also, they still need to solve charging for FSD.

 

[Bill906]

You want your car to arrive with 1500 miles on it?

Also, they still need to solve charging for FSD.

Agreed, but I think charging for FSD will be solved by the time FSD is solved and allowed. In fact isn't that what the Optimus project is all about?

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