New Cybertruck video clip (from Cyber Rodeo 2022). Shows tail lights & reverse lights

[Crissa]

min referring to the contraption hanging below the bumper, reducing an otherwise average departure angle to that of a car.

What contraption? The bumper?

-Crissa

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[ED_SFO]

throwcomputer is absolutely right. These Reverse lights are all wrong. The issue isnt the brightness - no car has ever had stock back up lights that are ‘blinding’. The problem is placement, they are nicely tucked in a cove on the bumper. The light will be directed in a narrow beam behind the truck. There will be no light to the sides, you will not be able to see anything on the sides of your rear end and backing out of a parking space, cars in the travel lanes of a parking lot, perpendicular to you, will not know your intention to back up until they are directly behind you as they pass you. Note to self: plan to add auxiliary back up lighting.

When you put in reverse you would use the 3 rear facing cameras...so side views and directly behind is very clear even at night in my MYP.

 

[flowerlandfilms]

This tail light is straight up Delorean-esque. I like it.

 

[Throwcomputer]

No one not directly behind you needs to be blinded.

-Crissa

You are parked front into parking spot in a packed parking lot at the mall, trying to back out of the spot as you are leaving. Random family of parents with two kids are walking up the aisle perpendicular to you, flush up against your side of the aisle. You put it in reverse to back out, none of that family walking up past you can tell you are in reverse and starting to back up just as they walk in front of you, because the reverse lights are tucked into the plate alcove they have no line of sight for. You can't see them because they're is a van parked next to you. Who loses in this situation? Don't give me any "fsd will save me crap" cause you cannot depend on fsd being active in every CT at every moment like this. And even if you have a rear facing camera that you might see them coming, you are not 100% attentive or able to notice everything every time. Those reverse lights are there to give everyone around you the best possible chance to know what you are doing and act accordingly in the event that you don't notice them. Take one safety feature away and that's when the bad stuff starts happening more often. Try telling the FAA that it's ok to slack on one safety regulation and see where that leads to.

You gonna tell me that those reverse lights are acceptably placed for this situation? I can think of plenty of other situations to prove those reverse lights are poorly placed and terribly thought out. These safety regulations built into vehicles are there for very specific reasons as a result of mistakes over time that can be more easily prevented through these design features.

 

[TAP1A]

Looks like no rear steer.

its not like the rear steer is going to be active everytime you drive. there will probably be an option on the screen to choose from whenever you want to use it. its not automatically going to rear steer

 

[Sonic]

New here hello everyone! Does anybody else think it looks like at about 8:20 that there may be steer-by-wire? The driver is on a phone so driving one handed and it kinda looks to me like he really isn’t turning the wheel that much but the tires are cranked all the way.

Yep, definitely. There was another video of the Cybertruck from the front, at Cyber rodeo. The driver was also making minor steering wheel movements, but the front wheels moved at extreme angles, extremely quickly. Such a wheel turn would normally require multiple quick steering wheel revolutions… I think it’s obviously a steer-by-wire system. I don’t see too many conversations about this, or is it because it’s all but confirmed?

In regards to the reversing lights, apart from the safety aspects which Throwcomputer mentioned, I’m also concerned about the limited space the lights leave for the number plate. Wide EU/UK plates, and even some plates in Australia would be too wide to fit the design, so the reverse lights will get covered-up. They’ll need to redesign the lighting layout if they intend to sell this outside the US. Makes me a bit concerned :-/

 

[Coolbreeze704]

You are parked front into parking spot in a packed parking lot at the mall, trying to back out of the spot as you are leaving. Random family of parents with two kids are walking up the aisle perpendicular to you, flush up against your side of the aisle. You put it in reverse to back out, none of that family walking up past you can tell you are in reverse and starting to back up just as they walk in front of you, because the reverse lights are tucked into the plate alcove they have no line of sight for. You can't see them because they're is a van parked next to you. Who loses in this situation? Don't give me any "fsd will save me crap" cause you cannot depend on fsd being active in every CT at every moment like this. And even if you have a rear facing camera that you might see them coming, you are not 100% attentive or able to notice everything every time. Those reverse lights are there to give everyone around you the best possible chance to know what you are doing and act accordingly in the event that you don't notice them. Take one safety feature away and that's when the bad stuff starts happening more often. Try telling the FAA that it's ok to slack on one safety regulation and see where that leads to.

You gonna tell me that those reverse lights are acceptably placed for this situation? I can think of plenty of other situations to prove those reverse lights are poorly placed and terribly thought out. These safety regulations built into vehicles are there for very specific reasons as a result of mistakes over time that can be more easily prevented through these design features.

Although your point makes great sense the fact you think that person walking behind the vehicle will be looking for your reverse light rather than their face buried in their phone looking at how many likes they received on their last post is wishful thinking

 

[Throwcomputer]

Although your point makes great sense the fact you think that person walking behind the vehicle will be looking for your reverse light rather than their face buried in their phone looking at how many likes they received on their last post is wishful thinking

That's on them, not you then. As a driver and a manufacturer, is your responsibility to make sure the liability for accidents does not fall on you. If something happens as a fault of the other party when you have taken all precautions, and the manufacturer has equally provided all necessary safety cues, then it's not you or the manufacturers fault. As is, the manufacturer will be considered liable if a similar situation happened in the real world as a result of those reverse light placements.

I can't believe people on here at actually arguing against common sense/simple/basic safety in design. We are literally talking about the easiest design change with minimal costs involved in said change. The wiring and light fixtures already exist in the appropriate place, just split one small section of the brake lights off to have pure white reverse lights. You don't even have to remove the existing lights. You can leave them in addition to the ones on the correct location. Or you can remove the plate ones and save your cents on the unit if so desired.

Those lights primary purpose is for everyone else around you, not the person in the car. Secondary purpose is to aid lighting up behind you at night. Not the other way around.

 

[Coolbreeze704]

I agree, just attempting a little humor this am

 

[Throwcomputer]

That whole black bar section across the back of the top of the tailgate beneath the dim red bar with the three bright red light rectangles can easily be one long white reverse light bar. Additional benefit of doing that is you have insane illumination behind you to see where you are going in reverse at night. Plus it would be hard to miss that safety cue!

There are so many better options within that whole light bar section for reverse lighting then the chosen alcove tucked hidden next to the plate.

 

[Dusty]

For those worried about backing into a pedestrian because they won't be alerted by beams of light. Teslas (like all EVs) makes a loud whirring Jetson's noise when backing up. Don't worry, folks won't be runnin' over each other on purpose.

 

[Ogre]

its not like the rear steer is going to be active everytime you drive. there will probably be an option on the screen to choose from whenever you want to use it. its not automatically going to rear steer

Most likely it will be active every time you drive.

This old video is from a prototype which likely doesn’t have rear steer at all. These things were hand build and are missing final features. One lacks a rear window and a couple of them seem to lack the sliding vault cover.

 

[Bill906]

These safety regulations built into vehicles are there for very specific reasons as a result of mistakes over time that can be more easily prevented through these design features.

I feel very confident in predicting the production model CT will meet all safety safety regulations.

 

[Throwcomputer]

For those worried about backing into a pedestrian because they won't be alerted by beams of light. Teslas (like all EVs) makes a loud whirring Jetson's noise when backing up. Don't worry, folks won't be runnin' over each other on purpose.

All good for those who can hear, but those who can't, depending on this one safety cue is not sufficient. Multiple forms of warning are the best prevention!

 

[greggertruck]

Man I hope there is a documentary about this like Chevrolet did on the Bummer

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